TBD-1

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Description

The TBD-1 Devastator is a rank I American torpedo bomber with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB) and 1.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.53 "Firestorm".

The TBD-1 is the first usable bomber in the U.S. aircraft line-up. While the OS2Us and SB2Us are capable of bombing, they cannot carry a torpedo or up to 1,600 lbs (725 kg) of bombs. The Devastator is adept at bombing either naval or land-based targets. On maps with naval ships, torpedoes require the little naval bomber to release from a very low altitude, a maximum of 340 ft (104 m) or 820 ft (250 m) depending on the torpedo used. For the pilots who prefer using bombs, they can be just as easily dropped on ships as on land-based vehicles. The aircraft needs to fly quite low to the ground to ensure greater accuracy.

The lone offensive machine gun does not offer much, but can be effectively used to pick off damaged ground targets or even damage a critical module on an enemy fighter. The lone rear-facing dorsal machine gun is not a miracle worker, though it does a good job of making it difficult for enemy fighters to sit on the TBD-1's tail. The aircraft is quite manoeuvrable and can quickly whip around to attempt a second bombing run on a target if there are any bombs left over. Though state-of-the-art when developed, this bomber was quickly outdated, but that did not stop it being kept in service at the beginning of World War II. While in War Thunder this bomber might seem to be an easy target for new pilots, those with some practice under their belt can utilise this as a very effective early bomber, racking up destroyed ground vehicles and anti-aircraft artillery targets. You can also use the fact that you look like a fighter to blend in.

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Max speed
at 2 500 m312 km/h
Turn time19 s
Max altitude6 000 m
EnginePratt & Whitney R1830-64
TypeRadial
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight4 t

The TBD-1 Devastator is a very slow but useful aircraft. It has a max speed of 327 km/h in Arcade Battles and 312 km/h in Realistic battles. The TBD-1 devastator has a pretty decent turn time for a bomber, making it viable for the most extreme of the pilots to use it as a basic dogfighter. Its slow speed makes the aircraft vulnerable to enemy fighter attacks, so be sure to bring a fighter escort!

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 2,500 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 298 287 6000 19.8 20.5 4.3 4.3 150
Upgraded 327 312 18.3 19.0 8.3 6.1

Details

Torpedo runs are a specialty of the TBD-1.
A TBD-1 setting up for a torpedo run against Japanese warships in the Pacific.
Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
431 185 212 212 212 ~8 ~2
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 465 < 400 < 380 > 323
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
2,620 m 900 hp 963 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew3 people
Speed of destruction
Structural431 km/h
Gear185 km/h
  • 12.7 mm steel - behind the engine
  • 12.7 mm steel - behind pilot's head
  • Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 in each wing)

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB160 → 202 Sl icon.png
RB220 → 278 Sl icon.png
SB300 → 379 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications3 000 Rp icon.png
940 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost190 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 Sl icon.png
Experts1 000 Sl icon.png
Aces20 Ge icon.png
Research Aces96 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 30 / 80 % Sl icon.png
100 / 100 / 100 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
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Cost:
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40 Ge icon.png
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Radiator
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Cost:
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Compressor
Research:
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Cost:
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Wings repair
Research:
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Cost:
60 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
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Cost:
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60 Ge icon.png
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Engine injection
Research:
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Cost:
100 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
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Cost:
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
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Research:
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ITC mk.III
Research:
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Cost:
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Research:
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Cost:
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Improved torpedo
Research:
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Cost:
50 Sl icon.png
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Research:
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Cost:
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SBC mk.I
Research:
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Cost:
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Research:
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Cost:
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Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition500 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
A TBD-1 blitzing ground artillery with a mix of 100 and 500 lb bombs.
Main article: M2 Browning (12.7 mm)

The TBD-1 is armed with:

  • 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, nose-mounted (500 rpg)

Suspended armament

Number of setups4
List of setups
Setup 112 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bomb
Setup 21 x Mk.13-1 torpedo (1927 lbs)
Setup 31 x Mk.13-1 Case torpedo (1927 lbs)
Setup 42 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb
6 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bomb

The TBD-1 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 12 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (1,200 lb total)
  • 1 x 1,927 lb Mk.13-1 torpedo
  • 1 x 1,927 lb Mk.13-1 Case torpedo
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 6 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (1,600 lb total)

Defensive armament

Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate1000 shots/min
Main article: Browning (7.62 mm)

The TBD-1 is defended by:

  • 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, dorsal turret (600 rpg)

Usage in battles

A TBD-1 scoring a direct torpedo hit on a Japanese ship.

The first thing a pilot will notice about the TBD in gameplay is its "rubber-banding" tendency to return to a stable speed of about 250 km/h. The aircraft has mediocre energy retention, especially in a turn or when coming out of a dive. However, it is a stable and easy plane to fly, even in Realistic Battles. Strangely enough, the TBD has awesome acceleration from a standing start. The acceleration peters off after about 140 km/h (just above its stall speed) but makes it a nice plane to take-off, especially from carriers. The armament on this plane is very bad and will get shot down if engaged with a fighter. The TBD is a very attractive target for fighters so climb to an altitude of 5,000 m. When dropping bombs, decrease your throttle to 50% as the bombs are more accurate when flying slow.

This aircraft is best used in a ground strike role, carpet bombing ground targets with a large quantity of smaller bombs available out of the box, and in this role, it performs respectably. It features a single 12.7 mm MG attached to the starboard side of the engine, with a generous ammo load, but although the TBD has a good turning radius it is not recommended to engage as a fighter. A rear gunner also wields a 7.62 mm MG with a good coverage angle but no coverage under the tail. The 7.62 mm MG is a welcome addition to keep enemies off the TBD's tail but its rate of fire and damage potential are quite mediocre. Aim precisely if you want to hit and spare your ammo.

It is important to note that the TBD suffers from extremely fragile flaps and gear, at least in Realistic and Simulator Battles; even combat flaps will break off at any speed above about 210 km/h, while the gear rips at about 180.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Auto control available
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Easily capable of flying back to base with one wing
  • Has a bomb sight
  • Has an arrestor hook for carrier landing
  • Very stable and easy to fly
  • Very manoeuvrable for a bomber: very good turn and roll rate
  • Carries a decent quantity of bombs without requiring any research
  • Great standing acceleration
  • Cockpit offers decent visibility
  • Excellent low-speed handling and low stall speed, great aircraft for pilots to learn how to use torpedoes

Cons:

  • Prone to wing snapping when pulling 3 Gs flying at mid to high speeds
  • Poor overall armament with limited defensive coverage, with a single 12.7 mm in front and a 7.62 mm in the rear
  • Low sustainable "cruise" speed (200-250 km/h)
  • Very bad energy retention
  • Bombs are mounted on external pylons
  • A dive bomber with a rather low wing rip speed and without any air brakes
  • No gun sight in cockpit other than a scope with an extremely limited (and very shaky) field of view
  • Does not come with its Navy Blue camouflage unlike other US Navy planes
  • Fragile flaps and landing gear
  • Gunner has no armour protection

History

The active-duty life of the TBD-1 Devastator was a relatively short one in which it went from being the Navy's most advanced aircraft in service to being outdated only three years later and then removed from active service within five years. Though seeing limited action during WWII and recorded performance as abysmal later was vindicated when documentation recorded that the U.S. Mk. 13 torpedo, one of the main suspended armaments of this aircraft was to share much of this blame as their failure rate (sinking, not-exploding, running cold, not running true, porposing) was extremely high.

The Devastator had a strong start as a winner of a U.S. Navy competition for a new carrier-based bomber. This aircraft included many firsts for the Navy as the TBD-1 was a monoplane manufactured from all metal (no fabric covering for any surfaces), and hydraulically folding wings to allowing stowage of more aircraft on the carrier. The Devastator had a crew of three, the pilot would fly the aircraft and operate the single forward-facing machine gun while the bombardier who sat in the centre of the cockpit would lay prone on the bottom of the aircraft and would aim the Norden bombsight located under the pilot's seat through a window in the belly of the aircraft. The third crew member was the radio operator/rear gunner who also operated a single machine gun in the dorsal turret to fend off any attacking enemy aircraft.

A total of 129 TBD-1 units were purchased and delivered to the U.S. Navy and were farmed out to several aircraft carriers such as the notable Enterprise, Lexington, Wasp and Hornet. Unfortunately, the Navy realized by 1940 that the Devastator was not the frontline bomber it needed and its replacement the Grumman TBF Avenger was not yet at a stage where it could be operational. Though outclassed by many Japanese fighters, the TBD-1 was still pressed into active service, however, as an example, 41 were deployed during the Battle of Midway with only four returning to the carriers. Though other factors contributed such as miscommunication and uncoordinated sorties, the Devastators flew without fighter cover and were easily picked off when lining up for torpedo runs often flying in a straight line at around 185 km/h (115 mph). Ship batteries also had an easy time bearing down on these slow and predictable torpedo runs. Though, the attacks were not a complete waste, as the Devastator attacks tied up the Imperial Japanese Navy and their protective fighters which allowed the late-arriving SBD dauntless dive bombers to inflict massive damage on the IJN carriers with very little resistance allowing them to carry out more effective attacks.

The Battle of Midway showed the technological age of the Devastator and the Navy elected to withdraw the remaining TBD-1s from active service and relegate them to training duty for both pilots and mechanics, while others were used by firefighters to practice extinguishing aircraft fires. All surviving Devastators are unsalvageable wrecks (the U.S. Navy will not relinquish ownership and thus cannot be salvaged) with one sitting in the Atlantic Ocean off of Miami, Florida USA, another in the Pacific Ocean just off of the coast of Mission Beach, California USA, two more in Jaluit Lagoon in the Marshall Islands and seven resting near the USS Lexington on the ocean floor of the Coral Sea.

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


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Bombers  A-26C-45 · A-26C-45DT · B-18A · BTD-1 · SBD-3 · TBD-1
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USA bombers
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Torpedo  TBD-1 · PBY-5 Catalina · PBY-5A Catalina · TBF-1C · BTD-1
Medium  B-10B · B-18A · B-34 · PV-2D · B-25J-1 · B-25J-20 · A-26C-45 · A-26C-45DT
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