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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_Fw190F8.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''Fw 190 F-8''' is a Rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB), 4.7 (RB), and 4.7 (SB). It was in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.
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The 190 who thought it's a [[Ju 87D-5|Stuka]]. The F-8 version is a peculiar one, designed to replace the the aging Ju 87 series, it could never fully replace it this late into the war (1944). As an attacker this Focke Wulf gains mid-air start on most maps which can either be used to get to ground targets quickly, or get the jump on climbing fighters. Keep in mind though that the very heavy F-8 is not designed for dogfights and will suffer in any fighter engagement.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,400 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 603 || 583 || 11,,100 || 24.8 || 25.3 || 9.3 || 11.6 || 453
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,400 m)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| ? || ? || 11,100 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || 453
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|-
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|}
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====Details====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
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|-
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! +
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! -
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|-
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| 860 || 860 || ??? || ~19 || ~19
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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|-
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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|-
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| < 420 || < 510 || < 510 || > 280
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 1,500 m || 1,602 hp || 1,954 hp
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 2
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 5,900 m || 1,478 hp || 1,804 hp
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|-
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|- -->
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|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* No armour plating
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* No armour glazing
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* Critical components located at front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
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* More fuel tanks located in wings near fuselage
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 131 (13 mm)}}
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The Fw 190 F-8 is armed with:
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* 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
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* 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|Bombs|Rockets}}
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Payload options for the Fw 190 F-8 include:
  
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* Without load
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (200 kg total)
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* 8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (400 kg total)
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* 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (250 kg total)
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (450 kg total)
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* 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (500 kg total)
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (700 kg total)
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* 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,000 kg total)
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,200 kg total)
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* 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, wing-mounted (35 rpg = 70 total)
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* 14 x Pb2 rockets
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=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
 
''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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== Usage in the battles ==
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The Fw-190F-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for it's tier.  If you spot a bandit at the same altitude, a recommended tactic is to head-on attack, followed by an evasive maneuver and then extending away to repeat the processes. If a bandit has superior energy/altitude and is trying to attack you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much altitude to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective maneuver in the Fw 190s. Many good pilots have dismembered many superior aircraft simply because of the roll rate and firepower this plane possesses. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary for the unintended fighter-role, climb to the side or continue climbing when starting mid-air, Boom & Zoom like a champion, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use the rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.
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===Manual Engine Control===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
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|-
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! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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|-
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! Oil
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! Water
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! Type
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|-
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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|-
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|}
  
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== Usage in the battles ==
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===Modules===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Tier
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! Flight performance
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! Survivability
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! Weaponry
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|-
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| I
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| Fuselage Repair, Radiator
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|
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|
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|-
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| II
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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|
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|-
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| III
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| Wing Repair, Engine
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|
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|
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|-
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| IV
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| Engine Injection
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| Cover
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|
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|-
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|}
  
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This attacker "Würger" has such awful responsiveness from the elevator, that anything which improves turn rate should have the highest priority. Otherwise it will kiss the ground more a lot more than cows do! Don't forget, it needs to dive-bomb to hit anything. And grinding the bombs cannot be forgotten!! This is an attacker, so it needs the payload unlocks, but without performance upgrades it is just pain to fly. A detour to the new belts could be considered, but two 20 mm cannons are enough to handle any ground units even with stock ammo. Especially as the other performance upgrades are necessary as well due the F-8's great weight.
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Great roll rate
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* Great energy retention
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* Ability to carry up to 1200 kg of payload
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* Plenty of ammo
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* Access to 30 mm MK 103 gunpods
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* Carrying the 30 mm cannon pods do not have a significant reduction on flight performance when compared to the bombs
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* Well armoured from the front
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* Excellent tank busting capability
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* Can potentially win a game single-handedly if left unchecked
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* 30 mm HVAP rounds can deal with any surface target except Pillboxes
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Poor turn rate that many Medium Bombers can beat
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* Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
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* 30 mm cannons are mounted on the wings therefore is inaccurate
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* Firing the 30 mm cannons creates recoil within the plane
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* Maneuverability at low speeds is bad
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* Generally outclassed by other 190 models when it comes to air to air combat
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* Bad climb rate for a 190 especially with payloads
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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== Sources ==
 
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
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{{Germany fighters}}

Revision as of 14:50, 14 November 2018

RANK 5 FRANCE
Somua SM PACK
Fw 190 A-8
fw-190a-8.png
Fw 190 A-8
Germany flag.png Germany
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.3 5.0 5.3
Class:
Research:27 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:185 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

GarageImage Fw 190 F-8.jpg


The Fw 190 F-8 is a Rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB), 4.7 (RB), and 4.7 (SB). It was in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.

The 190 who thought it's a Stuka. The F-8 version is a peculiar one, designed to replace the the aging Ju 87 series, it could never fully replace it this late into the war (1944). As an attacker this Focke Wulf gains mid-air start on most maps which can either be used to get to ground targets quickly, or get the jump on climbing fighters. Keep in mind though that the very heavy F-8 is not designed for dogfights and will suffer in any fighter engagement.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,400 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
603 583 11,,100 24.8 25.3 9.3 11.6 453
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,400 m) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 11,100  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.? 453

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
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860 860  ??? ~19 ~19
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< 420 < 510 < 510 > 280
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
1,500 m 1,602 hp 1,954 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,900 m 1,478 hp 1,804 hp

Survivability and armour

  • No armour plating
  • No armour glazing
  • Critical components located at front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
  • More fuel tanks located in wings near fuselage

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: MG 151/20 (20 mm), MG 131 (13 mm)

The Fw 190 F-8 is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: Bombs, Rockets

Payload options for the Fw 190 F-8 include:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (200 kg total)
  • 8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (400 kg total)
  • 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (250 kg total)
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (450 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (500 kg total)
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (700 kg total)
  • 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,000 kg total)
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,200 kg total)
  • 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, wing-mounted (35 rpg = 70 total)
  • 14 x Pb2 rockets

Usage in the battles

The Fw-190F-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for it's tier. If you spot a bandit at the same altitude, a recommended tactic is to head-on attack, followed by an evasive maneuver and then extending away to repeat the processes. If a bandit has superior energy/altitude and is trying to attack you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much altitude to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective maneuver in the Fw 190s. Many good pilots have dismembered many superior aircraft simply because of the roll rate and firepower this plane possesses. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary for the unintended fighter-role, climb to the side or continue climbing when starting mid-air, Boom & Zoom like a champion, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use the rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable Not controllable Not controllable Separate Not ontrollable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair, Radiator
II Compressor Airframe
III Wing Repair, Engine
IV Engine Injection Cover

This attacker "Würger" has such awful responsiveness from the elevator, that anything which improves turn rate should have the highest priority. Otherwise it will kiss the ground more a lot more than cows do! Don't forget, it needs to dive-bomb to hit anything. And grinding the bombs cannot be forgotten!! This is an attacker, so it needs the payload unlocks, but without performance upgrades it is just pain to fly. A detour to the new belts could be considered, but two 20 mm cannons are enough to handle any ground units even with stock ammo. Especially as the other performance upgrades are necessary as well due the F-8's great weight.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Great roll rate
  • Great energy retention
  • Ability to carry up to 1200 kg of payload
  • Plenty of ammo
  • Access to 30 mm MK 103 gunpods
  • Carrying the 30 mm cannon pods do not have a significant reduction on flight performance when compared to the bombs
  • Well armoured from the front
  • Excellent tank busting capability
  • Can potentially win a game single-handedly if left unchecked
  • 30 mm HVAP rounds can deal with any surface target except Pillboxes

Cons:

  • Poor turn rate that many Medium Bombers can beat
  • Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
  • 30 mm cannons are mounted on the wings therefore is inaccurate
  • Firing the 30 mm cannons creates recoil within the plane
  • Maneuverability at low speeds is bad
  • Generally outclassed by other 190 models when it comes to air to air combat
  • Bad climb rate for a 190 especially with payloads

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • page on aircraft encyclopedia;
  • other literature.


Germany fighters
Heinkel 
He 51  He 51 A-1 · He 51 B-1 · He 51 B-2/H · He 51 C-1 · He 51 C-1/L
He 100  He 100 D-1
He 112  He 112 A-0 · He 112 B-0 · He 112 B-1/U2 · He 112 B-2/U2 · He 112 V-5
Messerschmitt 
Bf 109 (Jumo)  Flegel's Bf 109 A · Bf 109 B-1 · Bf 109 C-1 · Bf 109 C-1
Bf 109 (DB-601)  Bf 109 E-1 · Bf 109 E-3 · Bf 109 E-4 · Bf 109 E-7/U2 · Bf 109 F-1 · Bf 109 F-2 · Bf 109 F-4 · Bf 109 F-4/trop
Bf 109 (DB-605)  Bf 109 G-2/trop · Bf 109 G-2 · Bf 109 G-6 · Bf 109 G-10 · Bf 109 G-14 · Bf 109 K-4
Focke-Wulf 
Fw 190 (early)  Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 A-8 · Fw 190 C
Fw 190 (late)  Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13
Ta 152  Ta 152 C-3 · Ta 152 H-1
Blohm & Voss 
BV 155  BV 155 B-1
  Captured:
USA  ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D
USSR  ▀La-5FN · ▀Yak-1B
Britain  ▀Tempest Mk V
Italy 
CR.42  ▀CR.42 · ▀Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
G.50  ▀G.50 serie 2 · ▀G.50 AS serie 7
C.200  ▀C. 200 serie 3 · ▀C. 200 serie 7
C.202  ▀C. 202
Finland  ▀Hawk H-75A-2

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