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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left|The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' in the garage]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
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<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-->
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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|-
 
|-
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
|-
 
|-
 
! AB
 
! AB
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! RB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
|-
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|725 || 707 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14 || 14 || 315
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| 725 || 707 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.1 || 21.3 || 14 || 14 || 315
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 10,200 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 10,200 m)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
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|-
 
! AB
 
! AB
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! RB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
|-
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? ||315
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| ??? || ??? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || 315
 
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|-
 
|}
 
|}
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
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! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps
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! Take-off flap
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! Take-off flaps
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! Landing flap
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! Landing flaps
 
! Air brakes
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
! Arrestor gear
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! -
 
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|-
 
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
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|-
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| < 450 || < 510 || < 510 || > 285
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| < 380 || < 220 || < 550 || > 290
 
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|-
 
|}
 
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 2,550 m || 1,730 hp || 2,048 hp  
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| 2,600 m || 1,750 hp || 2,073 hp
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 2
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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|-
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| 7,000 m || 1,560 hp || 1,847 hp  
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| 6,800 m || 1,540 hp || 1,824 hp
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
|-
 
|-
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| 9,600 m || 1,330 hp || 1,575 hp  
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| 9,700 m || 1,230 hp || 1,457 hp
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 4
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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|-
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| 11,000 m || 1,170 hp || 1,385 hp  
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| 11,000 m || 1,380 hp || 1,635 hp
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 15 mm steel - engine cowling
 
 
* 5 mm steel - under cockpit
 
* 5 mm steel - under cockpit
 
* 5 mm steel + 8 mm steel - behind pilot
 
* 5 mm steel + 8 mm steel - behind pilot
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
 
* 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
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* 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)
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* 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)
  
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== Usage in the battles ==
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== Usage in battles ==
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The Ta-152 H-1 is a designated high altitude fighter with a great wing area and good manoeuvrability, unlike its heavier brethren the [[Ta 152 C-3]]. Fly high, preferably at >10 km (32000 ft) since the engine is more effective at those altitudes.
  
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Fly high, preferably at >10km (32000ft) since the engine is more effective at those altitudes.
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There is a noticeable change above 3800 m where the engine starts providing more power however it is generally not sufficient to make the plane superior to the aircraft it generally fights, so do not rely on it. Most players use this aircraft as a "Boom and Zoom" although it is possible to dogfight with aircraft that have at least one disadvantage (e.g. P-51 - lower roll rate at low speeds and climb rate above 4000 m relative to the Ta 152) so tactics vary.
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There is a noticeable change above 3800m where the engine starts providing more power however it is generally not sufficient to make the plane superior to the aircraft it generally fights, so do not rely on it. Most players use this aircraft as a "Boom and Zoom" although it is possible to dogfight with aircraft that have at least one disadvantage (e.g. P51 - Lower Roll Rate at low speeds and Climb Rate above 4000m relative to the Ta 152) so tactics vary.
 
  
 
Not advisable to tackle more than one enemy at once.
 
Not advisable to tackle more than one enemy at once.
  
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Do not dogfight Russian FW 190 D premium, or the Bearcat as there is practically nothing you can do.
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Do not dogfight [[Fw 190 D-9 (USSR)|Russian FW 190 D]] premium, or the [[F8F (Family)|Bearcat]] as there is practically nothing you can do.
  
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
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|-
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! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
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! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
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! Oil
 
! Oil
 
! Water
 
! Water
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! Type  
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! Type
 
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| Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" |Combined|| rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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| Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Combined || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>4 gears || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
 
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| I
 
| I
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| Fuselage Repair
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| Fuselage repair
 
| Radiator
 
| Radiator
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|  
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|Offensive 20 mm
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| Offensive 20 mm
 
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|-
 
|-
 
| II
 
| II
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|  
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| Compressor
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
| Airframe
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|  
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|
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|Offensive 30 mm
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| Offensive 30 mm
 
|-
 
|-
 
| III
 
| III
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| Wings Repair
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| Wings repair
 
| Engine
 
| Engine
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|  
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|New 20 mm cannons
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| New 20 mm cannons
 
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|
 
|-
 
|-
 
| IV
 
| IV
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|  
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| Engine Injection
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| Engine injection
 
| Cover
 
| Cover
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|  
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|New 30 mm cannons
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| New 30 mm cannons
 
|-
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact.
 
* 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact.
 
* Stable in all axis (joystick).
 
* Stable in all axis (joystick).
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit.
 
* 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit.
 
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously.
 
* Has a tendency to snap roll viciously.
 
* Average roll rate, which is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
 
* Average roll rate, which is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
 
* Somewhat slow on low to medium altitude.
 
* Somewhat slow on low to medium altitude.
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* Poor wing lift to weight ratio, and hence poor turning ability, equal to Tempest Mk.V.
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* Poor wing lift to weight ratio, and hence poor turning ability, equal to Tempest Mk.V.
 
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks.
 
* Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks.
  
 
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== History ==
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
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* ''other literature.''
  
 
{{Germany fighters}}
 
{{Germany fighters}}

Revision as of 17:24, 14 April 2019

Rank 7 USA
F-5C Pack
Ta 152 H-1
ta-152h-1.png
Ta 152 H-1
Germany flag.png Germany
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
6.3 6.0 5.7
Class:
Research:71 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
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This page is about the German fighter Ta 152 H-1. For the other version, see Ta 152 C-3.

Description

GarageImage Ta 152 H-1.jpg


The Ta 152 H-1 is a rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB), 6.0 (RB), and 5.7 (SB). It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 10,200 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
725 707 14800 21.1 21.3 14 14 315
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 10,200 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ???  ??? 14800  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.? 315

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flaps
(km/h) 		Max Static G
+ -
900 ~10 ~5
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< 380 < 220 < 550 > 290
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
2,600 m 1,750 hp 2,073 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
6,800 m 1,540 hp 1,824 hp
Setting 3
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
9,700 m 1,230 hp 1,457 hp
Setting 4
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
11,000 m 1,380 hp 1,635 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 5 mm steel - under cockpit
  • 5 mm steel + 8 mm steel - behind pilot
  • 20 mm steel - pilot's headrest
  • 70 mm bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: MK 108 (30 mm), MG 151/20 (20 mm)

The Ta 152 H-1 is armed with:

  • 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (90 rpg)
  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons, wing-mounted (175 rpg = 350 total)

Usage in battles

The Ta-152 H-1 is a designated high altitude fighter with a great wing area and good manoeuvrability, unlike its heavier brethren the Ta 152 C-3. Fly high, preferably at >10 km (32000 ft) since the engine is more effective at those altitudes.

There is a noticeable change above 3800 m where the engine starts providing more power however it is generally not sufficient to make the plane superior to the aircraft it generally fights, so do not rely on it. Most players use this aircraft as a "Boom and Zoom" although it is possible to dogfight with aircraft that have at least one disadvantage (e.g. P-51 - lower roll rate at low speeds and climb rate above 4000 m relative to the Ta 152) so tactics vary.

Not advisable to tackle more than one enemy at once.

Do not dogfight Russian FW 190 D premium, or the Bearcat as there is practically nothing you can do.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Not controllable
Auto control available 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Combined Not controllable
4 gears 		Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe Offensive 30 mm
III Wings repair Engine New 20 mm cannons
IV Engine injection Cover New 30 mm cannons

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 30 mm cannon usually obliterates enemies upon impact.
  • Stable in all axis (joystick).
  • Unstable when ~400km/h and turn(mouse aim).
  • Can out-climb the P-51 D at high altitude.
  • Good performance above 7000 m.

Cons:

  • 30 mm cannon is low-velocity, making it hard to hit.
  • Has a tendency to snap roll viciously.
  • Average roll rate, which is made significantly worse by pitching up/down
  • Somewhat slow on low to medium altitude.
  • Poor wing lift to weight ratio, and hence poor turning ability, equal to Tempest Mk.V.
  • Poor parasite drag to thrust ratio, meaning a lot of energy is lost in diving attacks.

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === Encyclopedia Info ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Germany fighters
Heinkel 
He 51  He 51 A-1 · He 51 B-1 · He 51 B-2/H · He 51 C-1 · He 51 C-1/L
He 100  He 100 D-1
He 112  He 112 A-0 · He 112 B-0 · He 112 B-1/U2 · He 112 B-2/U2 · He 112 V-5
Messerschmitt 
Bf 109 (Jumo)  Flegel's Bf 109 A · Bf 109 B-1 · Bf 109 C-1 · Bf 109 C-1
Bf 109 (DB-601)  Bf 109 E-1 · Bf 109 E-3 · Bf 109 E-4 · Bf 109 E-7/U2 · Bf 109 F-1 · Bf 109 F-2 · Bf 109 F-4 · Bf 109 F-4/trop
Bf 109 (DB-605)  Bf 109 G-2/trop · Bf 109 G-2 · Bf 109 G-6 · Bf 109 G-10 · Bf 109 G-14 · Bf 109 K-4
Focke-Wulf 
Fw 190 (early)  Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 A-8 · Fw 190 C
Fw 190 (late)  Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13
Ta 152  Ta 152 C-3 · Ta 152 H-1
Blohm & Voss 
BV 155  BV 155 B-1
  Captured:
USA  ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D
USSR  ▀La-5FN · ▀Yak-1B
Britain  ▀Tempest Mk V
Italy 
CR.42  ▀CR.42 · ▀Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
G.50  ▀G.50 serie 2 · ▀G.50 AS serie 7
C.200  ▀C. 200 serie 3 · ▀C. 200 serie 7
C.202  ▀C. 202
Finland  ▀Hawk H-75A-2

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