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This page is about the Italian medium tank M14/41. For the premium M14/41, see M14/41 (47/40).

M14/41

M13/40 (III)

M15/42

M14/41

AB	RB	SB
2.3	2.0	2.0

Class:

Medium tank

Research:5 900

Purchase:6 300

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Description

The Fiat-Ansaldo M14/41 is a rank I Italian medium tank with a battle rating of 2.3 (AB) and 2.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back

Hull30 / 25 / 25

Turret45 / 25 / 25

Crew4 people

Visibility82 %

Armour type:

Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret)
Cast homogeneous armour (gun mantlet)

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	30 mm (12°) Upper plate 50 mm (12°) Driver view port 30 mm (12°) MG bulge 30 + 30 mm (spherical) MG port 25 mm (80°) Front glacis 30 mm (cylindrical°) Lower plate	25 mm (8°) Top 25 mm Bottom 30 mm (9-12°) MG bulge	25 mm Upper part 27 mm (21°) Lower part	25 mm (10°) Front glacis 25 mm Crew compartment 8 mm (15°) Rear section - Engine 5-25 mm (8°) Rear section - Radiator vents
Turret	30 + 40 mm (cylindrical) Gun mantlet 45 mm (13°) Turret front 50 mm Turret ring	25 mm (20°) 50 mm Turret ring		15 mm (5°)

Notes:

Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
The M14/41's belly is 14 mm thick.
Mudguards are 4 mm thick.

The M14/41 offers quite good armour and survivability for a rank I vehicle. The turret can block some distant shots with its 45 mm front and the sharp edges around the mantlet may ricochet some rounds. The upper glacis is almost impenetrable from the front due to the sharp angle. The most obvious weak spot is drivers vision slit and the side armour is lacklustre with 25 mm and no slopes. Placement of the crew is very good for the size of the tank, AP shots will often hit only one crew member due to the spacing and the driver and machine gunner sit very low behind the transmission.

Mobility

Speedforward / back

AB38 / 6 km/h

RB and SB34 / 6 km/h

Number of gears4 forward

1 back

Weight14.5 t

Engine power

AB305 hp

RB and SB160 hp

Power-to-weight ratio

AB21.0 hp/t

RB and SB11.0 hp/t

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Game Mode	Forward	Reverse	Weight (tons)	Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	38	6	14.5	248	305	17.1	21.03
Realistic	34	6	14.5	142	160	9.79	11.03

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB318 → 409

RB337 → 433

SB409 → 526

Total cost of modifications5 970

4 480

Talisman cost410

Crew training1 800

Experts6 300

Aces75

Research Aces135 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

20 / 30 / 30 %

106 / 106 / 106 %

Modifications

Mobility

Protection

Firepower

Tracks Research: 400 Cost: 300 70
Suspension Research: 270 Cost: 200 50	Brake System Research: 270 Cost: 200 50
Filters Research: 500 Cost: 380 90
Transmission Research: 640 Cost: 480 115	Engine Research: 640 Cost: 480 115

Improved Parts

Research:

400

Cost:

300

70

Improved FPE

Research:

270

Cost:

200

50

Crew Replenishment

Research:

500

Cost:

380

90

Horizontal Drive Research: 400 Cost: 300 70
Adjustment of Fire Research: 270 Cost: 200 50	47mm_m39_APBC_ammo_pack Research: 270 Cost: 200 50
Elevation Mechanism Research: 500 Cost: 380 90
Artillery Support Research: 640 Cost: 480 115

Armaments

Main armament

47 mm 47/32 mod.35 cannon

Ammunition87 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

3.8 → 2.9 s

Vertical guidance-15° / 25°

Main article: 47/32 mod.35 (47 mm)

47 mm 47/32 mod.35					Turret rotation speed (°/s)					Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode	Capacity	Vertical	Horizontal	Stabilizer	Stock	Upgraded	Full	Expert	Aced	Stock	Full	Expert	Aced
Arcade	87	-15°/+25°	±180°	N/A	13.3	18.4	22.4	24.8	26.4	3.77	3.33	3.07	2.90
Realistic	87	-15°/+25°	±180°	N/A	8.3	9.8	11.9	13.2	14.0	3.77	3.33	3.07	2.90

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Ammunition	Type of warhead	10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
Granata Perforante mod.35	APHE	50	47	37	27	20	15
Granata Perforante mod.39	APBC	48	47	41	35	30	26

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	0%	50%	100%
Granata Perforante mod.35	APHE	630	1.5	1.2	9	30	47°	60°	65°
Granata Perforante mod.39	APBC	630	1.44	1.2	9	30	47°	60°	65°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the M14/41

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	Visual discrepancy
87	79 (+8)	54 (+33)	1 (+86)	No

Notes:

As they are modeled by sets of 2 or 3, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire all shells in the set.
Turret empty: 54 (+33) shells.

Machine guns

8 mm Breda Mod. 38 machine gun (coaxial)

Ammunition1 536 rounds

Belt capacity24 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

10.4 → 8.0 s

Fire rate600 shots/min

8 mm Breda Mod. 38 machine gun

Ammunition1 536 rounds

Belt capacity24 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

10.4 → 8.0 s

Fire rate600 shots/min

Main article: Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)

Although the pintle-mounted machine gun cannot traverse independently of the turret on the horizontal, its limited vertical traverse can make it useful against unprotected enemy crew as well as incoming aircraft. The coaxial-mounted machine gun is hard to use for anything, as it's limited by the traverse of the main gun.

8 mm Breda Mod. 38
Mount	Capacity (Belt)	Fire rate	Vertical	Horizontal
Coaxial	1,536 (24)	600	N/A	N/A
Pintle	1,536 (24)	600	-10°/+20°	N/A

Usage in battles

In an RB battle, the M14/41 functions very similarly to the M13/40 (III) tank, due to the fact that the two are (essentially) the same vehicle, with the M14/41 simply boasting a more powerful engine and sitting at a higher battle rating. The M14/41 features very thick armour for its rank, especially around the turret, where the angled 25 mm thick armour will often bounce rounds consistently, and the 30 mm frontal armour is not to be underestimated. Combined with a rather well spaced crew of 4, the M14/41 boasts a suprising amount of durability. This very well-protected tank, of course, has a very crucial weakpoint: A massive 30 mm flat plate on the direct front of the tank. A hit through this plate will often kill the driver and, more likely than not, the crucial gunner that sits behind him (and sometimes the commander as well, which will kill the tank). To avoid this, you can attempt to hide your flat plate in an engagement from the front by angling your tank about 30 degrees to the left, which will have your much more angled and durable machine gun port face your enemy, reducing the chance that you will be shot through your flat plate.

With a top speed of 33 km/h, the M14/41 is not exactly a fast tank, but not a slow one either. Its speed limits its opportunities as a flanker, but with its very durable armour and its very solid 47 mm gun, the M14/41 makes a very solid frontline brawler tank. When shooting from range, try to use your insane 15 degrees of gun depression to hide the rather vulnerable hull of your tank. When playing the M14/41, it is imperative to always check for flankers. Most enemy tanks at this BR usually move very fast and have quite powerful guns and small profiles. Make sure to listen for engine sounds and to check your sides and rear often. Your turret doesn't turn all too fast and your sides consist of flat 25 mm plates. All an M22 or Stuart needs to do is hit you there once and your crew will be dead before you realise what hit you. Keep your eyes open, and if you see something, make sure to rotate your hull; pivot turning in the M14/41 will always be faster than turning your turret.

Pros and cons

Pros:

Thick mantlet
Rather well-spaced crew
Excellent gun depression
Decent gun with APHE rounds
Short reload time

Cons:

Giant flat plate on the hull front provides a massive weak spot
Unsloped armour is easy to penetrate for opponents
Low-capacity MGs
Mediocre mobility
Slow turret traverse

History

After the extensive use in Yugoslavia, Greece and North Africa uncovered numerous mechanical and reliability problems with the M13/40 tank, Italian engineers set out to address these issues. Instead of developing a whole new vehicle which would replace the flawed M13/40, engineers at Fiat-Ansaldo decided to instead further develop and improve the M13/40's design and solve the various issues along the way. As a result, the new M14/41 was developed. Closely resembling its predecessor, the M14/41 was hard to distinguish from its predecessor as most of the changes and improvements were made to the vehicle's internals. Improvements included a new, slightly more powerful engine and transmission, improved air filters and electrics as well as several other changes. Production was quickly approved and began in August 1941, with existing M13/40 hulls simply being upgraded to the M14/41 standard. The first units arrived to frontline troops in North Africa by the end of the year, but only saw limited service in that theatre. The M14/41 was produced for only a short period of time, but close to 700 units were made.

- From Devblog

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the M14/41 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

M14/41 Review, Decent tank, Mobility is still bad! - Joseph 2000

Fiat-Ansaldo M14/41, Italian, Tier-1, Medium Tank - Angry Nerd Gaming

Best gun depression discusses the M14/41 at 1:33 - War Thunder Official Channel

Tank Chat #147 M14/41 | The Tank Museum - The Tank Museum

External links

FIAT-Ansaldo
Autoblindo	AB 41 · AB 43
Light Tanks	L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.)
Medium Tanks	Celere Sahariano
M11/39	M11/39
M13/40	M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41	M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42	M15/42
P40	P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
Tank Destroyers
L3/33	L3/33 CC
Semovente L40	47/32 L40
Semovente M41	75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
Semovente M42	75/34 M42
Semovente M43	105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
SPAAs	M42 Contraereo

Italy medium tanks
	Italy
M13/40	M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41	M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42	M15/42
M16/43	Celere Sahariano
P26/40	P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
OF-40	OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA)
Ariete	Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV
Germany	▄Pz.III N · ▄Pz.IV G · ▄Leopard 1A5
Allied powers	▄Sherman I Composito · Sherman Ic · ▄Sherman Vc · ▄Sherman V · M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M26A1 · M47 (105/55) · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete"
	Hungary
Turán	Turan I · Turan II · Turan III
Germany	◔Leopard 2A4 · Leopard 2A7HU
USSR	◔T-72M1

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+| usage = the premium M14/41
+| link = M14/41 (47/40)
+}}
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 '''Notes:'''
 * Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
 * The {{PAGENAME}}'s belly is 14 mm thick.
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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:47/32 mod.35 (47 mm)/Ammunition|Granata Perforante mod.35, Granata Perforante mod.39}}
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
-|-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
-|-
-! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
-|-
-| Granata Perforante mod.35 || APHE || 55 || 52 || 41 || 30 || 22 || 17
-|-
-| Granata Perforante mod.39 || APBC || 54 || 52 || 46 || 39 || 33 || 29
-|-
-|}
-{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
-! colspan="10" | Shell details
-|-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
-! colspan="3" | Ricochet
-|-
-! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
-|-
-| Granata Perforante mod.35 || APHE || 630 || 1.5 || 1.2 || 9 || 30 || 47° || 60° || 65°
-|-
-| Granata Perforante mod.39 || APBC || 630 || 1.44 || 1.2 || 9 || 30 || 47° || 60° || 65°
-|-
-|}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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 |-
 |}
-Notes:
+'''Notes''':
 * As they are modeled by sets of 2 or 3, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire all shells in the set.
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 |-
-| Coaxial || 1,524 (24) || 600 || N/A || N/A
+| Coaxial || 1,536 (24) || 600 || N/A || N/A
 |-
-| Pintle || 1,524 (24) || 600 || -10°/+20° || N/A
+| Pintle || 1,536 (24) || 600 || -10°/+20° || N/A
 |-
 |}
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-In an RB battle, the M14/41 functions very similarly to the reserve M13/40 (III) tank, due to the fact that the two are (essentially) the same vehicle, with the M14/41 simply boasting a more powerful engine and sitting at a higher battle rating. The M14/41 features very thick armour for its rank, especially around the turret, where the angled 25 mm thick armour will often bounce rounds consistently, and the 30 mm frontal armour is not to be underestimated. Combined with a rather well spaced crew of 4, the M14/41 boasts a suprising amount of durability. This very well-protected tank, of course, has a very crucial weakpoint: A massive 30 mm flat plate on the direct front of the tank. A hit through this plate will often kill the driver and, more likely than not, the crucial gunner that sits behind him (and sometimes the commander as well, which will kill the tank). To avoid this, you can attempt to hide your flat plate in an engagement from the front by angling your tank about 30 degrees to the left, which will have your much more angled and durable machinegun port face your enemy, reducing the chance that you will be shot through your flat plate.
+In an RB battle, the M14/41 functions very similarly to the M13/40 (III) tank, due to the fact that the two are (essentially) the same vehicle, with the M14/41 simply boasting a more powerful engine and sitting at a higher battle rating. The M14/41 features very thick armour for its rank, especially around the turret, where the angled 25 mm thick armour will often bounce rounds consistently, and the 30 mm frontal armour is not to be underestimated. Combined with a rather well spaced crew of 4, the M14/41 boasts a suprising amount of durability. This very well-protected tank, of course, has a very crucial weakpoint: A massive 30 mm flat plate on the direct front of the tank. A hit through this plate will often kill the driver and, more likely than not, the crucial gunner that sits behind him (and sometimes the commander as well, which will kill the tank). To avoid this, you can attempt to hide your flat plate in an engagement from the front by angling your tank about 30 degrees to the left, which will have your much more angled and durable machine gun port face your enemy, reducing the chance that you will be shot through your flat plate.
-With a top speed of 33 km/h, the M14/41 is not exactly a fast tank, but not a slow one either. Its speed limits its opportunities as a flanker, but with its aforementioned very durable armour and its very solid 47 mm gun, the M14/41 makes a very solid frontline brawler tank. When shooting from range, try to use your insane 15 degrees of gun depression to hide the rather vulnerable hull of your tank. When playing the M14/41, it is imperative to '''always''' check for flankers. Most enemy tanks at this BR usually move very fast and have quite powerful guns and small profiles. Make sure to listen for engine sounds and to check your sides and rear often. Your turret doesn't turn all too fast and your sides consist of flat 25 mm plates. All an M22 or Stuart needs to do is hit you there once and your crew will be dead before you realise what hit you. Keep your eyes open, and if you see something, make sure to rotate your hull; pivot turning in the M14/41 will always be faster than turning your turret.
+With a top speed of 33 km/h, the M14/41 is not exactly a fast tank, but not a slow one either. Its speed limits its opportunities as a flanker, but with its very durable armour and its very solid 47 mm gun, the M14/41 makes a very solid frontline brawler tank. When shooting from range, try to use your insane 15 degrees of gun depression to hide the rather vulnerable hull of your tank. When playing the M14/41, it is imperative to always check for flankers. Most enemy tanks at this BR usually move very fast and have quite powerful guns and small profiles. Make sure to listen for engine sounds and to check your sides and rear often. Your turret doesn't turn all too fast and your sides consist of flat 25 mm plates. All an M22 or Stuart needs to do is hit you there once and your crew will be dead before you realise what hit you. Keep your eyes open, and if you see something, make sure to rotate your hull; pivot turning in the M14/41 will always be faster than turning your turret.
 === Pros and cons ===
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Very well armoured
+* Thick mantlet
-* Very decent gun
-* -15 degrees of gun depression
 * Rather well-spaced crew
-* Decent reload
+* Excellent gun depression
+* Decent gun with APHE rounds
+* Short reload time
 '''Cons:'''
-* Giant flat plate on the front provides a massive weakspot
+* Giant flat plate on the hull front provides a massive weak spot
+* Unsloped armour is easy to penetrate for opponents
 * Low-capacity MGs
 * Mediocre mobility
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 ;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=medium_tank&vehicle=it_m14_41 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_m14_41 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|mf3le2vKj4s|'''{{PAGENAME}} Review, Decent tank, Mobility is still bad!''' - ''Joseph 2000''|u2mngznQRgM|'''Fiat-Ansaldo {{PAGENAME}}, Italian, Tier-1, Medium Tank''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|4_cJ1CpEatw|'''Best gun depression'''  discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:33 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|mf3le2vKj4s|'''{{PAGENAME}} Review, Decent tank, Mobility is still bad!''' - ''Joseph 2000''|u2mngznQRgM|'''Fiat-Ansaldo {{PAGENAME}}, Italian, Tier-1, Medium Tank''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|4_cJ1CpEatw|'''Best gun depression'''  discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 1:33 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''|db0y41gz8nA|'''Tank Chat #147 M14/41 <nowiki>|</nowiki> The Tank Museum''' - ''The Tank Museum''}}
 == See also ==
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 ;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 * [[M14/41 (47/40)]]
-;Vehicles equipped with the same gun
+;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[M13/40 (Family)]]
-* [[47/32 L40]]
-;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[M15/42]]
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
-* ''encyclopedia page on tank;''
 * ''other literature.'' -->
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 * [https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=552 <nowiki>[Military Factory]</nowiki> Carro Armato M14/41]
+{{TankManufacturer FIAT-Ansaldo}}
 {{Italy medium tanks}}

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Difference between revisions of "M14/41"

Latest revision as of 16:09, 18 September 2023

Contents

Description

General info

Survivability and armour

Mobility

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition

Ammo racks

Machine guns

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links