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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
''This article is about SNEB type 23 missle, which is quite and quirky secondary load option becouse of its large quantity, and low amount of post penetration effect.''
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The SNEB type 23 rocket for some will appear to be a trade-off an extremely fast rocket with a significantly small HEAT load, but often come in loads of 100+ per aircraft and can effectively be used as a 68 mm cannon. This weapon is meant to be fired in salvos.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
One projectile has weight of 5kg (11 lbs). Projectile is filled with 69 grams of Composition B mixture of explosives, that is equal to 903g of TNT. It travels with speed of 600 meters per second, making it one of the fastest missles.
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Each projectile has a total weight of 5 kg (11 lbs) and of that, only 69 grams of Composition B mixture of explosives. In comparison, that is equal to approximately 903 g of TNT explosives. In comparison to other rockets, this one rips through the air at 600 meters per second, making it one of the fastest rockets in-game.
  
 
=== Effective damage ===
 
=== Effective damage ===
''Small caliber of those rockets means that user may struggle with using HEAT becouse of its tiny post penetration effect , which may result being not able to destroy any not hullbreakable tanks, and may require you to take multiple passes to kill heavier opponent. Becouse of small amount of explosives inside there is almost no splash damage, and thats why you need to get direct hit into crew compartment.''
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The small calibre of these rockets means that user may struggle with HEAT warheads because of its overall tiny post penetration effect, often resulting in failing to destroy any non-hull breakable tanks. Often this leads to being necessary to make multiple passes to eliminate the heavier opponents and ruining the element of surprise. Overall, due to the small amount of explosives packed inside each rocket, there is very little splash damage which will affect many portions of a tank and it is essential to aim for a direct hit into the crew compartment where any effective splash damage will be maximized against soft targets.
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
This missle has no direct competition with any other projectile, becouse it marks a place, where it sits between rocket powered, and fired shell. It has fairly low damage for a missle, but it does more damage than solid shell fired from aircraft cannon, but at the same time most of unguided missles are slower, which makes it difficult to compare it directly to any other secondary weaponry.  
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This rocket has no direct competition with any other projectile because it marks a place, where it sits between rocket-powered, and fired shell. It has quite low damage for a rocket, however, it creates more damage when compared to a solid shell fired from aircraft cannon. When compared to other rockets of its time, they are typically significantly slower, making it difficult to compare it across the board directly to other secondary weaponry.  
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
''SNEB type 23 is quite an efficient way to deal with enemy ground targets in Ground Realistic Battles, becouse of large amount being stored inside pods. If those rockets are used carefully you can most surely destroy a lot of enemy tanks if not intercepted.''
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The SNEB type 23 is quite efficient when dealing with enemy ground targets in Ground Realistic Battles, due to the large number of rockets stored inside each pod. If those rockets are used carefully significant damage if not destruction is guaranteed when they strike their target en masse.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
-Large amount of projectiles in every single pod (18 pcs each)
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* Large amount of projectiles in every single pod (18 pcs each)
 
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* Fast moving rocket (600 m/s) means that drop over distance is smaller
-Fast moving missle means that drop is smaller, and you don't have to give as much lead as you would have to with other rockets. (600m/s)
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* Do not need to lead as much as with slower rockets
 
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* HEAT warhead means that you will not lose any penetration over distance
-HEAT warhead means that you won't lose any penetration over distance.
 
 
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
-One of the smallest postpenetration effect
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* One of the smallest post-penetration effects in available rockets
 
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* Rarely eliminates enemy tanks in one shot (takes multiple rockets)
-Rarely oneshoots enemy tanks
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* Does not have significant amount of explosives inside, leading to almost zero splash damage
 
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* Significant amount of parasite drag when attached to the aircraft's pylon making planes feel a lot more sluggish while manoeuvring
-Does not have significant amount of explosives inside, which means that there is almost no splash damage.
 
 
 
-Big amount of parasite drag, making planes feel a lot more sluggish.
 
 
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
''The 68 mm calibre air-launched unguided rocket that became known all over the world as the SNEB rocket, was developed by Thomson Brandt Armements (now TDA), to provide the French armed forces with their own rocket system, that could be employed by both fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft. Development took place in the early 1950s and the design was similar to that of the early US 2.75 in (70 mm) rockets that had evolved from the original Mickey Mouse air-to-air rockets of 1948. These early rockets employed eight flick-out tailfins for in-flight stability, and became known as FFAR (Folding Fin Aircraft Rocket). In order to cover a wide range of operational requirements several different types of warhead were developed and two basic types of motor. The Type 25 F1B motor was designed for use from fixed-wing aircraft and the Type 25 H1 for helicopter deployment. Full-scale production of the 68 mm SNEB rockets began in 1955 and has continued to date. Various launchers of different shapes and sizes were developed by TDA and Matra (now MBDA) for use with the SNEB 68 mm rockets. These include the following: for fixed-wing aircraft, Matra F-1 (36 rockets), Matra F-2 (6 rockets) and Matra F-4 (18 rockets); for helicopters, TDA 68-12C (12 rockets) and TDA 68-22C (22 rockets).In 1968, TDA began development of a 100 mm calibre range of rockets, with explosive warheads for use in the air-to-surface role against armour and fortified bunkers.In 1977 TDA began development of a second generation 68''
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[https://web.archive.org/web/20081028161632/http://www.janes.com/extracts/extract/jalw/jalw2988.html]
 
  
 
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== External links ==
 
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20081028161632/http://www.janes.com/extracts/extract/jalw/jalw2988.html Janes.com TDA 68 mm aircraft rockets (SNEB) (France), Air-launched rockets]
  
 
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Revision as of 12:32, 8 August 2020

Description

The SNEB type 23 rocket for some will appear to be a trade-off an extremely fast rocket with a significantly small HEAT load, but often come in loads of 100+ per aircraft and can effectively be used as a 68 mm cannon. This weapon is meant to be fired in salvos.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Fighters  F4U-7
Jet fighters 
Britain  Hunter F.6 · Hunter FGA.9 · Phantom FG.1 · Phantom FGR.2
Italy  ◄G.91 R/3
France  M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIC · Super Mystere B2 · Etendard IVM · Mirage IIIC
Jet bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF
Attack helicopters  EC-665 Tiger HAD · EC-665 Tiger HAP

General info

Each projectile has a total weight of 5 kg (11 lbs) and of that, only 69 grams of Composition B mixture of explosives. In comparison, that is equal to approximately 903 g of TNT explosives. In comparison to other rockets, this one rips through the air at 600 meters per second, making it one of the fastest rockets in-game.

Effective damage

The small calibre of these rockets means that user may struggle with HEAT warheads because of its overall tiny post penetration effect, often resulting in failing to destroy any non-hull breakable tanks. Often this leads to being necessary to make multiple passes to eliminate the heavier opponents and ruining the element of surprise. Overall, due to the small amount of explosives packed inside each rocket, there is very little splash damage which will affect many portions of a tank and it is essential to aim for a direct hit into the crew compartment where any effective splash damage will be maximized against soft targets.

Comparison with analogues

This rocket has no direct competition with any other projectile because it marks a place, where it sits between rocket-powered, and fired shell. It has quite low damage for a rocket, however, it creates more damage when compared to a solid shell fired from aircraft cannon. When compared to other rockets of its time, they are typically significantly slower, making it difficult to compare it across the board directly to other secondary weaponry.

Usage in battles

The SNEB type 23 is quite efficient when dealing with enemy ground targets in Ground Realistic Battles, due to the large number of rockets stored inside each pod. If those rockets are used carefully significant damage if not destruction is guaranteed when they strike their target en masse.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Large amount of projectiles in every single pod (18 pcs each)
  • Fast moving rocket (600 m/s) means that drop over distance is smaller
  • Do not need to lead as much as with slower rockets
  • HEAT warhead means that you will not lose any penetration over distance

Cons:

  • One of the smallest post-penetration effects in available rockets
  • Rarely eliminates enemy tanks in one shot (takes multiple rockets)
  • Does not have significant amount of explosives inside, leading to almost zero splash damage
  • Significant amount of parasite drag when attached to the aircraft's pylon making planes feel a lot more sluggish while manoeuvring

History

Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />.

Media

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See also

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  • reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links


Rockets
USA 
70 mm  FFAR Mighty Mouse · Hydra-70 M247
110 mm  M8
127 mm  HVAR · Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP
298 mm  Tiny Tim
Germany 
55 mm  R4M
73 mm  RZ.65
88 mm  Pb2
150 mm  Wgr.41 Spr
210 mm  Wfr.Gr.21
USSR 
55 mm  S-5K · S-5KP · S-5M
80 mm  S-8KO · S-8M
82 mm  M-8 · ROS-82 · RBS-82
122 mm  S-13OF
127 mm  S-3K
132 mm  M13 · M-13UK · ROFS-132 · ROS-132 · RBS-132
212 mm  S-1of · S-21
240 mm  S-24 · S-24B
300 mm  M-31
420 mm  S-25O · S-25OF · S-25OFM
425 mm  TT-250
Britain 
51 mm  RP
70 mm  CRV7 M247
80 mm  Type R80 SURA T-80-P 3 · Type R80 SURA T-80-US 3
87 mm  AP Mk I · AP Mk II
152 mm  RP-3
183 mm  Triplex R.P.
292 mm  Uncle Tom · Red Angel
Japan 
100 mm  Type 5 No.1 Mod.9
120 mm  Type 3 No.1 Mod.28 Mk.1
130 mm  Type 75
210 mm  Type 3 No.6 Mod.27 Mk.1 · Type 5 No.6 Mod.9
China 
55 mm  Type 57-1
70 mm  FS70
90 mm  Type 90-1
130 mm  Type 130-2
Italy 
50 mm  ARF/8M3(AP-AT)
France 
68 mm  SNEB type 23 · TDA
70 mm  FZ49
100 mm  TBA ECC · TBA Multi-Dart 100 AB
120 mm  T10 140 · T10 151
Sweden 
75 mm  srak m/55 Frida · srak m/57B
81 mm  Oerlikon Typ 3Z 8Dla
135 mm  m/56D · psrak m/70
145 mm  psrak m/49B · Psrak m/49/56
150 mm  srak m/51
180 mm  hprak m/49
Israel 
80 mm  Flz.-Rakete Oerlikon
127 mm  AR