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In an RB battle, the M14/41 functions very similarly to the reserve M13/40 (III) tank, due to the fact that the two are (essentially) the same vehicle, with the M14/41 simply boasting a more powerful engine and sitting at a higher battle rating. The M14/41 features very thick armour for its rank, especially around the turret, where the angled 25 mm thick armour will often bounce rounds consistently, and the 30 mm frontal armour is not to be underestimated. Combined with a rather well spaced crew of 4, the M14/41 boasts a suprising amount of durability. This very well-protected tank, of course, has a very crucial weakpoint: A massive 30 mm flat plate on the direct front of the tank. A hit through this plate will often kill the driver and, more likely than not, the crucial gunner that sits behind him (and sometimes the commander as well, which will kill the tank). To avoid this, you can attempt to hide your flat plate in an engagement from the front by angling your tank about 30 degrees to the left, which will have your much more angled and durable machine gun port face your enemy, reducing the chance that you will be shot through your flat plate.
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In an RB battle, the M14/41 functions very similarly to the M13/40 (III) tank, due to the fact that the two are (essentially) the same vehicle, with the M14/41 simply boasting a more powerful engine and sitting at a higher battle rating. The M14/41 features very thick armour for its rank, especially around the turret, where the angled 25 mm thick armour will often bounce rounds consistently, and the 30 mm frontal armour is not to be underestimated. Combined with a rather well spaced crew of 4, the M14/41 boasts a suprising amount of durability. This very well-protected tank, of course, has a very crucial weakpoint: A massive 30 mm flat plate on the direct front of the tank. A hit through this plate will often kill the driver and, more likely than not, the crucial gunner that sits behind him (and sometimes the commander as well, which will kill the tank). To avoid this, you can attempt to hide your flat plate in an engagement from the front by angling your tank about 30 degrees to the left, which will have your much more angled and durable machine gun port face your enemy, reducing the chance that you will be shot through your flat plate.
  
 
With a top speed of 33 km/h, the M14/41 is not exactly a fast tank, but not a slow one either. Its speed limits its opportunities as a flanker, but with its very durable armour and its very solid 47 mm gun, the M14/41 makes a very solid frontline brawler tank. When shooting from range, try to use your insane 15 degrees of gun depression to hide the rather vulnerable hull of your tank. When playing the M14/41, it is imperative to always check for flankers. Most enemy tanks at this BR usually move very fast and have quite powerful guns and small profiles. Make sure to listen for engine sounds and to check your sides and rear often. Your turret doesn't turn all too fast and your sides consist of flat 25 mm plates. All an M22 or Stuart needs to do is hit you there once and your crew will be dead before you realise what hit you. Keep your eyes open, and if you see something, make sure to rotate your hull; pivot turning in the M14/41 will always be faster than turning your turret.
 
With a top speed of 33 km/h, the M14/41 is not exactly a fast tank, but not a slow one either. Its speed limits its opportunities as a flanker, but with its very durable armour and its very solid 47 mm gun, the M14/41 makes a very solid frontline brawler tank. When shooting from range, try to use your insane 15 degrees of gun depression to hide the rather vulnerable hull of your tank. When playing the M14/41, it is imperative to always check for flankers. Most enemy tanks at this BR usually move very fast and have quite powerful guns and small profiles. Make sure to listen for engine sounds and to check your sides and rear often. Your turret doesn't turn all too fast and your sides consist of flat 25 mm plates. All an M22 or Stuart needs to do is hit you there once and your crew will be dead before you realise what hit you. Keep your eyes open, and if you see something, make sure to rotate your hull; pivot turning in the M14/41 will always be faster than turning your turret.
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Latest revision as of 16:09, 18 September 2023

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This page is about the Italian medium tank M14/41. For the premium M14/41, see M14/41 (47/40).
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M14/41
AB RB SB
2.3 2.0 2.0
Class:
Research:5 900 Specs-Card-Exp.png
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Description

The Fiat-Ansaldo M14/41 is a rank I Italian medium tank with a battle rating of 2.3 (AB) and 2.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull30 / 25 / 25
Turret45 / 25 / 25
Crew4 people
Visibility82 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (gun mantlet)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 30 mm (12°) Upper plate
50 mm (12°) Driver view port
30 mm (12°) MG bulge
30 + 30 mm (spherical) MG port
25 mm (80°) Front glacis
30 mm (cylindrical°) Lower plate
25 mm (8°) Top
25 mm Bottom
30 mm (9-12°) MG bulge
25 mm Upper part
27 mm (21°) Lower part
25 mm (10°) Front glacis
25 mm Crew compartment
8 mm (15°) Rear section - Engine
5-25 mm (8°) Rear section - Radiator vents
Turret 30 + 40 mm (cylindrical) Gun mantlet
45 mm (13°) Turret front
50 mm Turret ring
25 mm (20°)
50 mm Turret ring
15 mm (5°)

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
  • The M14/41's belly is 14 mm thick.
  • Mudguards are 4 mm thick.

The M14/41 offers quite good armour and survivability for a rank I vehicle. The turret can block some distant shots with its 45 mm front and the sharp edges around the mantlet may ricochet some rounds. The upper glacis is almost impenetrable from the front due to the sharp angle. The most obvious weak spot is drivers vision slit and the side armour is lacklustre with 25 mm and no slopes. Placement of the crew is very good for the size of the tank, AP shots will often hit only one crew member due to the spacing and the driver and machine gunner sit very low behind the transmission.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB38 / 6 km/h
RB and SB34 / 6 km/h
Number of gears4 forward
1 back
Weight14.5 t
Engine power
AB305 hp
RB and SB160 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB21.0 hp/t
RB and SB11.0 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38 6 14.5 248 305 17.1 21.03
Realistic 34 6 142 160 9.79 11.03

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB318 → 409 Sl icon.png
RB337 → 433 Sl icon.png
SB409 → 526 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications5 970 Rp icon.png
4 480 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost410 Ge icon.png
Crew training1 800 Sl icon.png
Experts6 300 Sl icon.png
Aces75 Ge icon.png
Research Aces135 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 30 / 30 % Sl icon.png
106 / 106 / 106 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement it.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
47mm_m39_APBC_ammo_pack
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition87 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
3.8 → 2.9 s
Vertical guidance-15° / 25°
Main article: 47/32 mod.35 (47 mm)
47 mm 47/32 mod.35 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 87 -15°/+25° ±180° N/A 13.3 18.4 22.4 24.8 26.4 3.77 3.33 3.07 2.90
Realistic 8.3 9.8 11.9 13.2 14.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Granata Perforante mod.35 APHE 50 47 37 27 20 15
Granata Perforante mod.39 APBC 48 47 41 35 30 26
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante mod.35 APHE 630 1.5 1.2 9 30 47° 60° 65°
Granata Perforante mod.39 APBC 630 1.44 1.2 9 30 47° 60° 65°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the M14/41
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
87 79 (+8) 54 (+33) (+86) No

Notes:

  • As they are modeled by sets of 2 or 3, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire all shells in the set.
  • Turret empty: 54 (+33) shells.

Machine guns

Ammunition1 536 rounds
Belt capacity24 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate600 shots/min
Ammunition1 536 rounds
Belt capacity24 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate600 shots/min
Main article: Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)

Although the pintle-mounted machine gun cannot traverse independently of the turret on the horizontal, its limited vertical traverse can make it useful against unprotected enemy crew as well as incoming aircraft. The coaxial-mounted machine gun is hard to use for anything, as it's limited by the traverse of the main gun.

8 mm Breda Mod. 38
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 1,536 (24) 600 N/A N/A
Pintle 1,536 (24) 600 -10°/+20° N/A

Usage in battles

In an RB battle, the M14/41 functions very similarly to the M13/40 (III) tank, due to the fact that the two are (essentially) the same vehicle, with the M14/41 simply boasting a more powerful engine and sitting at a higher battle rating. The M14/41 features very thick armour for its rank, especially around the turret, where the angled 25 mm thick armour will often bounce rounds consistently, and the 30 mm frontal armour is not to be underestimated. Combined with a rather well spaced crew of 4, the M14/41 boasts a suprising amount of durability. This very well-protected tank, of course, has a very crucial weakpoint: A massive 30 mm flat plate on the direct front of the tank. A hit through this plate will often kill the driver and, more likely than not, the crucial gunner that sits behind him (and sometimes the commander as well, which will kill the tank). To avoid this, you can attempt to hide your flat plate in an engagement from the front by angling your tank about 30 degrees to the left, which will have your much more angled and durable machine gun port face your enemy, reducing the chance that you will be shot through your flat plate.

With a top speed of 33 km/h, the M14/41 is not exactly a fast tank, but not a slow one either. Its speed limits its opportunities as a flanker, but with its very durable armour and its very solid 47 mm gun, the M14/41 makes a very solid frontline brawler tank. When shooting from range, try to use your insane 15 degrees of gun depression to hide the rather vulnerable hull of your tank. When playing the M14/41, it is imperative to always check for flankers. Most enemy tanks at this BR usually move very fast and have quite powerful guns and small profiles. Make sure to listen for engine sounds and to check your sides and rear often. Your turret doesn't turn all too fast and your sides consist of flat 25 mm plates. All an M22 or Stuart needs to do is hit you there once and your crew will be dead before you realise what hit you. Keep your eyes open, and if you see something, make sure to rotate your hull; pivot turning in the M14/41 will always be faster than turning your turret.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Thick mantlet
  • Rather well-spaced crew
  • Excellent gun depression
  • Decent gun with APHE rounds
  • Short reload time

Cons:

  • Giant flat plate on the hull front provides a massive weak spot
  • Unsloped armour is easy to penetrate for opponents
  • Low-capacity MGs
  • Mediocre mobility
  • Slow turret traverse

History

After the extensive use in Yugoslavia, Greece and North Africa uncovered numerous mechanical and reliability problems with the M13/40 tank, Italian engineers set out to address these issues. Instead of developing a whole new vehicle which would replace the flawed M13/40, engineers at Fiat-Ansaldo decided to instead further develop and improve the M13/40's design and solve the various issues along the way. As a result, the new M14/41 was developed. Closely resembling its predecessor, the M14/41 was hard to distinguish from its predecessor as most of the changes and improvements were made to the vehicle's internals. Improvements included a new, slightly more powerful engine and transmission, improved air filters and electrics as well as several other changes. Production was quickly approved and began in August 1941, with existing M13/40 hulls simply being upgraded to the M14/41 standard. The first units arrived to frontline troops in North Africa by the end of the year, but only saw limited service in that theatre. The M14/41 was produced for only a short period of time, but close to 700 units were made.

- From Devblog

Media

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See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


FIAT-Ansaldo
Autoblindo  AB 41 · AB 43
Light Tanks  L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.)
Medium Tanks  Celere Sahariano
M11/39  M11/39
M13/40  M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41  M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42  M15/42
P40  P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
Tank Destroyers 
L3/33  L3/33 CC
Semovente L40  47/32 L40
Semovente M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
Semovente M42  75/34 M42
Semovente M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
SPAAs  M42 Contraereo

Italy medium tanks
  Italy
M13/40  M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41  M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42  M15/42
M16/43  Celere Sahariano
P26/40  P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
OF-40  OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA)
Ariete  Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV
Germany  ▄Pz.III N · ▄Pz.IV G · ▄Leopard 1A5
Allied powers  ▄Sherman I Composito · Sherman Ic · ▄Sherman Vc · ▄Sherman V · M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M26A1 · M47 (105/55) · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete"
  Hungary
Turán  Turan I · Turan II · Turan III
Germany  ◔Leopard 2A4 · Leopard 2A7HU
USSR  ◔T-72M1