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{{About
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
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The original F-86D was developed as bomber interceptor and was outfitted with a retractable ventral rocket-rack which housed 24 x 2.75 in (70 mm) [[FFAR Mighty Mouse|Mighty Mouse]] folding-fin aerial rockets. Lacking cannons or air-to-air missiles, the F-86D was limited in role strictly as a bomber hunter.  In 1953 the Italians approached North American in an attempt to modify the existing F-86D into a fighter-interceptor, however, the proposed changes proved too costly. This cost overage required scaling back the requirements and from this was produced the F-86K, a fighter-interceptor aircraft which was outfitted with 4 x 20 mm cannons and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles. Originally this aircraft was produced for the U.S., however, later the Italian manufacturer Fiat was licensed to also manufacture and produce this version of the fighter.
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|'''Fun Fact''': The Sabre Dog was initially to be designated F-95, but had its name changed to F-86D instead, in order to make it seem like a variant of the existing Sabre and not an entirely new aircraft. In reality, however, the F-86D was only about 25% similar to the original F-86 and the name change was only done to secure further support for the project.
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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The F-86K is a good 9.0 but not the best. The F-86K has very good low end acceleration due to its afterburner, but you are only subsonic. Like every other jet, it's bad at maneuvering at low speeds and compresses at high speed. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other 9.0s. The F-86K can do one thing very well, which is going into verticals.  
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The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and its control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight.
  
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.3 || 42.7 || 37.1 || 1,000
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.3 || 42.7 || 37.1 || rowspan="2" | 1,000
 
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| 1,121 || 1,111 || 26.6 || 27.0 || 73.1 || 56.0
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
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| ??? || ??? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || 1,000
 
 
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==== Details ====
 
==== Details ====
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! colspan="5" | Features
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! colspan="6" | Features
 
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓     <!-- ✓ -->
 
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 620 || ~8 || ~4
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| 1,187 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 593 || 556 || 370 || ~8 || ~4
 
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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| < 850 || < 600 || < 660 || N/A
 
| < 850 || < 600 || < 660 || N/A
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==== Engine performance ====
 
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| colspan="2" | General Electric J47-GE-17B || 1
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| colspan="2" | 6,532 kg || colspan="3" | 286 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
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! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 2,294 kgf || 3,158 kgf
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| 0.55 || 0.53 || 0.50 || 0.46 || 0.41
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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The plane is equipped at the front with a 6.35 mm steel plate protecting the pilot's wrist and up. The cockpit's frontal glass is made of 38 mm of bulletproof glass that helps against incoming small calibre rounds. All the while the pilot's seat is made of 12.7 mm of steel which protects his back of any incoming small calibre rounds and shrapnel.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|M24A1 (20 mm)}}
 
{{main|M24A1 (20 mm)}}
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=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
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* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The F-86K should be used as a support fighter mainly. This is due to its sub-par maneuverability compared to other 9.0s like the MiG-17 or the F2 Sabre at low speeds. In a 1v1 dogfight, the F-86K has almost no chance against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which you should do most of the time. You also have 4 M24A1s which are excellent against bomber hunters, but also in a head-ons. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from maybe .8 km out then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing and increasing your chance of surviving. Your opponents will mainly be 8.7s like the MiG-15 Bis or A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or out run. However, sometimes you will get up tiered to 10.0. This is when your wet thrust advantage is nullified as you face F-100s that are supersonic. You will also meet Hunter F6's if you get up tiered. If you see a Hunter F.6 you can't really do much except pray to Gaijin that he doesn't have SRAAMs. If he doesn't have SRAAMs then you can fight him in a vertical. 
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The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par manoeuvrability at low speeds compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the [[MiG-17]]. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K is outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in the vertical. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four 20 mm M24A1 cannons which is more than enough, but you will sadly almost never see a bomber. These are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack, but don't commit to head-ons. Instead, fire a burst from maybe .8 km out then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing. Your opponents will mainly be other similarly tiered aircraft, such as the [[F-86F-2]] and [[J32B]].
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The F-86K is equipped with an [[AN/APS-21]] search radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
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| 45,000 m || 28,000 m || ±85° || ±16°
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* Good top speed
 
* Good top speed
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* Great firepower of four 20 mm cannons
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* Good roll rate at low/medium speed (<800 km/h)
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* Good high-speed manoeuvrability
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* Good acceleration with afterburner
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* Access to Sidewinder missiles
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* Has a search radar (can only spot bombers or large attackers)
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* High velocity 20 mm cannons, highly effective in head-ons and deflection shots
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* Possesses payload of two AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
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* Brake chute
  
 
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'''Cons:'''
  
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* Not as manoeuvrable as earlier-model Sabres (F-86A/F)
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* Subsonic
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* Heavy compared to regular Sabres so less nimble, even with leading slats
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* Hard compression at high speed (>900 km/h), especially in the roll axis
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* Can easily rip wings with strong input
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* Afterburner guzzles a lot of fuel
 
* Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
 
* Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
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* Prone to wing rips with strong input
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* No bombs or rockets
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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The F-86K is the NATO variant of the F-86D with the exception it did not sport the internal FFAR Mighty Mouse rocket launcher, but 20 mm cannons and Sidewinder missiles instead. Many foreign countries wanted a high altitude interceptor. This need was created by the Soviet bomber threat many Western countries feared of. The U.S. felt the F-86D would be the perfect candidate for NATO countries, however, they didn't give the F-86D away. This was due to sensitive material the F-86D possessed, especially the state-of-the-art fire control system. Not only was the fire control system sensitive info, but it was also unreliable and the U.S. did not want to give unreliable equipment to other NATO countries. So the U.S. came up with the F-86K, an almost exact copy of the F-86D other than an improvised fire control and a slightly longer nose. After the F-86K was designed, production started with NAA (North American Arms) making around a hundred F-86K's. These were shipped to NATO countries and Italy, but the U.S. also sent sets of parts to Italy around 1956. Fiat took these sets and assembled their own F-86K's. Some of the Fiat assembled F-86K's were shipped to France or other NATO countries. Italy continued to use F-86K's up until they started to slowly get rid of them starting 1964 to make space for the F-104 Starfighter. The last Italian F-86K was decommissioned in 1973.  
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The F-86K is the NATO variant of the F-86D with the exception it did not sport the internal FFAR Mighty Mouse rocket launcher, but 20 mm cannons and Sidewinder missiles instead. Many foreign countries wanted a high altitude interceptor. This need was created by the Soviet bomber threat many Western countries feared of. The U.S. felt the F-86D would be the perfect candidate for NATO countries, however, they didn't give the F-86D away. This was due to sensitive material the F-86D possessed, especially the state-of-the-art fire control system. Not only was the fire control system sensitive info, but it was also unreliable and the U.S. did not want to give unreliable equipment to other NATO countries. So the U.S. came up with the F-86K, an almost exact copy of the F-86D other than an improvised fire control and a slightly longer nose. After the F-86K was designed, production started with NAA (North American Arms) making around a hundred F-86Ks. These were shipped to NATO countries and Italy, but the U.S. also sent sets of parts to Italy around 1956. Fiat took these sets and assembled their own F-86Ks. Some of the Fiat assembled F-86Ks were shipped to France or other NATO countries. Italy continued to use F-86Ks up until they started to slowly get rid of them starting 1964 to make space for the F-104 Starfighter. The last Italian F-86K was decommissioned in 1973.
  
 
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== See also ==
 
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* Canadair [[F-86 (Family)|Sabre]] (those Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
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* North American [[F-86 (Family)|F-86A/F]]
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* North American [[F-100D|F-100]] Super Sabre
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* North American [[FJ-4B|FJ-4]] Fury
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* Grumman [[F9F-8|F9F]] Cougar
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* Lavochkin [[La-15]]
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* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-15]]
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* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-17]]
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* Hawker [[Hunter F.1|Hunter]]
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* Dassault [[Super Mystere B2|Super Mystère]]
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* Saab [[J29D|J29]] Tunnan
  
 
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* http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_17.html [History]
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* [http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p86_17.html [joebaugher<nowiki>.com]</nowiki> North American F-86K Sabre]
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* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/453521-f-86k/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
  
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The ▄F-86K Sabre is a rank VI Italian jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/RB) and 9.3 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision".

The original F-86D was developed as bomber interceptor and was outfitted with a retractable ventral rocket-rack which housed 24 x 2.75 in (70 mm) Mighty Mouse folding-fin aerial rockets. Lacking cannons or air-to-air missiles, the F-86D was limited in role strictly as a bomber hunter. In 1953 the Italians approached North American in an attempt to modify the existing F-86D into a fighter-interceptor, however, the proposed changes proved too costly. This cost overage required scaling back the requirements and from this was produced the F-86K, a fighter-interceptor aircraft which was outfitted with 4 x 20 mm cannons and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles. Originally this aircraft was produced for the U.S., however, later the Italian manufacturer Fiat was licensed to also manufacture and produce this version of the fighter.

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Fun Fact: The Sabre Dog was initially to be designated F-95, but had its name changed to F-86D instead, in order to make it seem like a variant of the existing Sabre and not an entirely new aircraft. In reality, however, the F-86D was only about 25% similar to the original F-86 and the name change was only done to secure further support for the project.

—  War Thunder Dev Blog

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 111 km/h
Turn time27 s
Max altitude15 500 m
EngineGeneral Electric J47-GE-17B
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight10 t

The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and its control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,103 1,097 15500 27.4 28.3 42.7 37.1 1,000
Upgraded 1,121 1,111 26.6 27.0 73.1 56.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,187 350 593 556 370 ~8 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 850 < 600 < 660 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J47-GE-17B 1 6,532 kg 286 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 46m fuel
1,150 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,034 kg 7,313 kg 7,703 kg 8,338 kg 9,530 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 46m fuel MTOW
Stationary 2,294 kgf 3,158 kgf 0.45 0.43 0.41 0.38 0.33
Optimal 2,294 kgf
(0 km/h) 		3,861 kgf
(1,200 km/h) 		0.55 0.53 0.50 0.46 0.41

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear350 km/h

The plane is equipped at the front with a 6.35 mm steel plate protecting the pilot's wrist and up. The cockpit's frontal glass is made of 38 mm of bulletproof glass that helps against incoming small calibre rounds. All the while the pilot's seat is made of 12.7 mm of steel which protects his back of any incoming small calibre rounds and shrapnel.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 309 → 4 437 Sl icon.png
RB9 442 → 12 661 Sl icon.png
SB9 967 → 13 365 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications143 200 Rp icon.png
225 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training130 000 Sl icon.png
Experts450 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces890 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
214 / 214 / 214 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
23 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
690 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
23 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
690 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
t_160_belt_pack
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9B
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
t_160_new_gun
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 14 x 20 mm M24A1 cannon
Ammunition528 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Main article: M24A1 (20 mm)

The F-86K (Italy) is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm M24A1 cannons, nose-mounted (132 rpg = 528 total)

Suspended armament

List of setups (1)
Setup 12 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Main article: AIM-9B Sidewinder

The F-86K (Italy) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles

Usage in battles

The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par manoeuvrability at low speeds compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the MiG-17. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K is outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in the vertical. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four 20 mm M24A1 cannons which is more than enough, but you will sadly almost never see a bomber. These are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack, but don't commit to head-ons. Instead, fire a burst from maybe .8 km out then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing. Your opponents will mainly be other similarly tiered aircraft, such as the F-86F-2 and J32B.

The 2 x AIM-9Bs are perfect for the rare chance you see a bomber, or if someone is trying to run away from you. However, these should never be used against a plane that is actively turning due to the poor tracking rate.

Radars

Main article: AN/APS-21

The F-86K is equipped with an AN/APS-21 search radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.

AN/APS-21 - Target Detection Radar
Maximum
Detection
Range 		Guaranteed
Detection
Range 		Max Azimuth
Scan Angle 		Max Elevation
Scan Angle
45,000 m 28,000 m ±85° ±16°

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed
  • Good roll rate at low/medium speed (<800 km/h)
  • Good acceleration with afterburner
  • Has a search radar (can only spot bombers or large attackers)
  • High velocity 20 mm cannons, highly effective in head-ons and deflection shots
  • Possesses payload of two AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
  • Brake chute

Cons:

  • Subsonic
  • Heavy compared to regular Sabres so less nimble, even with leading slats
  • Hard compression at high speed (>900 km/h), especially in the roll axis
  • Can easily rip wings with strong input
  • Afterburner guzzles a lot of fuel
  • Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
  • No bombs or rockets

History

The F-86K is the NATO variant of the F-86D with the exception it did not sport the internal FFAR Mighty Mouse rocket launcher, but 20 mm cannons and Sidewinder missiles instead. Many foreign countries wanted a high altitude interceptor. This need was created by the Soviet bomber threat many Western countries feared of. The U.S. felt the F-86D would be the perfect candidate for NATO countries, however, they didn't give the F-86D away. This was due to sensitive material the F-86D possessed, especially the state-of-the-art fire control system. Not only was the fire control system sensitive info, but it was also unreliable and the U.S. did not want to give unreliable equipment to other NATO countries. So the U.S. came up with the F-86K, an almost exact copy of the F-86D other than an improvised fire control and a slightly longer nose. After the F-86K was designed, production started with NAA (North American Arms) making around a hundred F-86Ks. These were shipped to NATO countries and Italy, but the U.S. also sent sets of parts to Italy around 1956. Fiat took these sets and assembled their own F-86Ks. Some of the Fiat assembled F-86Ks were shipped to France or other NATO countries. Italy continued to use F-86Ks up until they started to slowly get rid of them starting 1964 to make space for the F-104 Starfighter. The last Italian F-86K was decommissioned in 1973.

Media

Skins
Videos
The Shooting Range #159 - Metal Beasts section at 00:35 discusses the F-86K (France).

See also

Related development
  • Canadair Sabre (those Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
  • North American F-86A/F
  • North American F-100 Super Sabre
  • North American FJ-4 Fury
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

External links


Fiat Aviation (Fiat Aviazione)
Fighters  CR.32 · CR.32 bis · CR.32 quater
  CR.42 · Marcolin's C.R.42 CN · ▀Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
  G.50 serie 2 · G.50 AS serie 7
  G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55 serie 1 · G.55S
  G.56
Jet fighters  G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 Y · G.91 YS
  ▄F-86K*
  ▄F-104G* · F-104S* · F-104S.ASA* · ▄F-104S TAF*
Strike aircraft  F.C.20 Bis
Bombers  B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1
Export/Captured  J11 · ▀CR.42
  ▀G.50 serie 2 · ▀G.50 AS serie 7
  ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4 · G.91 R/4
  *Licensed
See also  North American Aviation · Lockheed Martin

Italy jet aircraft
Aerfer  Sagittario 2 · Ariete
Fiat  G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 R/4 (Portugal) · G.91 Y · G.91 YS
AMX International  AMX · AMX A-1A (Brazil)
Panavia  Tornado ADV · ▄Tornado IDS · ▄Tornado IDS (1995)
  Foreign:
Vampire  Vampire FB 52A
F-84  ▄F-84F · ▄F-84G-21-RE
F-86  CL-13 Mk.4 · ▄F-86K
F-104  ▄F-104G · F-104S · ▄F-104S TAF (Turkey) · F-104S.ASA
F-16  ▄F-16A ADF
AV-8  ▄AV-8B Plus
Hungary 
Mikoyan-Gurevich  ◔MiG-15bis · ◔MiG-17PF · ◔MiG-21MF · ◔MiG-21bis-SAU · ◔MiG-23MF · ◔MiG-29
Ilyushin  ◔IL-28
Sukhoi  ◔Su-22M3
Saab  ◔JAS39EBS HU C

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