Pz.Bfw.VI (P)

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Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P)
germ_panzerbefelhswagen_vi_p.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
5.7/5.7/5.7BR
5 peopleCrew
Mobility
60.0 tWeight
8 forward
4 back
Gear box
Armament
88 mm KwK36 cannonWeapon 1
80 roundsAmmunition
-8° / 16°Vertical guidance
1 800 roundsAmmunition
150 roundsBelt capacity
900 shots/minFire rate
Economy
6 090 Ge icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png2 450/2 670/2 550Repair
10 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
340 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
890 Ge icon.pngAces
x 2.78 Rp icon.pngReward for battle

Description

GarageImage Pz.Bfw.VI(P).jpg


The Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P) is a premium Rank IV German heavy tank with a battle rating of 5.7. It was introduced in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". The Pz.Bfw. VI (P) is an uparmoured variant of the VK 45.01 (P), with an extra 100 mm of armour bolted onto the front plate. It costs 6,090 Golden Eagles

Unlike the Henschel Tiger, and most other tanks, it is powered by a rather unusual combination of 2 Hybrid gasoline-electric engines. This brings some unusual handling characteristics to play. For example, because it is driven by the electric engine, it can go backwards just as fast as forward! So it has one of the highest reverse speed in the game now. On the other hand, its top speed in both directions is limited (only 31 kph, and it feels like it could go faster without the limit). It is also a little heavier than the Henschel, has narrower tracks, and its engine output is lower. Soft terrain isn't a friend of this vehicle.

The hull it uses is similiar to the Henschel, it has the same 102 mm of front armour, and 82 mm of side and rear armour, only with different shapes. However, additional 102mm armour plates are bolted to the front, making it a total of 204 mm of steel. (Same ammount of hull armour can be found on Ferdinand tank destroyer!)

Other notable differences/similarities:

  • Transmission is mounted at the rear of the vehicle - no more catching fires from frontal shots!
  • It uses the same turret and gun as Tiger H1, but it can use APCR shells.
  • It uses the same hull as Ferdinand tank destroyer.
  • Turret hasn't got an electric drive - its traverse speed is therefore very slow.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 102 + 102 mm (8°) Front plate
62 mm (78°), 102 + 102 mm (30°) Front glacis
82 mm (46°) Lower glacis
82 mm 82 mm 26 mm
Turret 100 mm Turret front
90 - 200 mm Gun mantlet
82 mm 82 mm 26 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 80 mm 26 mm

Notes:

  • Lower side hull is only 62 mm thick so watch out.
  • An additional 26 mm of armour is bolted in front of the machine gun port on the hull.
  • Turret front covered by gun mantlet has variable thickness depending on exact place, ranging from 90 to 200 mm of armour.
  • Driver's view port is actually far from being a weakspot, it still counts as part of 200 mm of front armour + 40 mm.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
60.0 N/A 33 (AB)
31 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 684 842
Realistic/Simulator 469 530
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 11.40 14.03
Realistic/Simulator 7.82 8.83

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: KwK 36 (88 mm)
88 mm KwK 36
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
80 -8°/+16° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 4.50 6.20 __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 4.50 5.30 __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
9.60 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
PzGr 39 APCBC 165 162 151 138 126 116
Sprgr HE 13 13 13 13 13 13
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 110 110 110 110 110 110
PzGr 40 APCR 220 219 200 179 160 143
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
PzGr 39 APCBC 773 10 0.8 28 108.8 +4° 48° 63° 71°
Sprgr HE 820 11 0.1 0.5 935 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 600 7.6 0.0 0.3 1100 +0° 62° 69° 73°
PzGr 40 APCR 1000 7.3 N/A N/A N/A +1.5° 66° 70° 72°
  • PzGr 39
    Stick with this type of shell as it's the best. It will do incredible damage to any encountered tank, except SPAA, AA guns, or AI artillery. It may struggle with some heavier tanks like the IS-1, IS-2, or American heavy tanks at long ranges, but well placed shots from close range or sides will do the job; all other medium and light tanks will be history as soon as this shell make a contact with them. This shell, however, will almost always over-penetrate all but the most armoured SPAA vehicles, so it is best to use HE or machine gun fire.
  • Hl.Gr. 39
    The heat shell is best avoided as it deals less damage than the APBC Shell and has a much lower muzzle-velocity, meaning that the gun has to aim ridiculously high for sniping. It also offers less penetration than APBC at all ranges.
  • PzGr 40
    As the APCR round for the gun, this will give the tank the greater edge needed to take out heavily protected tanks.
  • Sprgr. 39
    The HE shell is completely ineffective against all but SPAA or the AI artillery on the Kursk and Ash River maps, and the machine gun mounted on the Tiger has proven quite capable of dealing with these. Keep a small supply of this shell on hand if planning to flank the enemy and take out their SPAA or artillery, but avoid them for everything else.
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the Pz.Bfw.VI (P).
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
80 67 (+13) 53 (+27) 40 (+40) 27 (+53) 14 (+66) (+79) Yes

Left side empty: 40 (+40)

Machine guns

Main article: MG 34 (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm MG 34
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
1,800 (150) 900 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

With this tank, a calm and patient player will be able to rip apart lots of enemies, before being knocked out. The Tiger P can easily survive a duel with other Henschel Tigers, because its hull armour is much stronger, and they use the same turret, that is rather hard to be penned by Short 8.8cm guns they use.

One of the flaws of its armour design is that it cannot be effectively angled AT ALL. Because of its front hull cheeks, that are only 82 mm thick, even the slightest angling makes them very vulnerable to all guns, and to make matters even worse, ammunition is stored right behind them on both sides (unless one carries less ammunition).

Gameplay is very similar to the Tiger E. Avoid direct close range confrontations (although the Porsche can hold its ground a lot better there), where its weakspots can be targeted, or be flanked easily, and rather use its excellent accurate gun to outshoot the opponents from afar, while using the terrain and various obstacles as cover (Hulldown maneuver). Refrain from angling the armour, as opposed to Box-shaped Henschel Tigers, because of the vulnerable front hull cheeks and much thinner side armour. 204 mm of front hull armour can defeat a lot of shells even completely unangled, and even more at high distance.

Remember about the high reverse speed (31 kph!), if the situation is becoming dire, try to retreat from it by reversing while still facing the opponents with 200 mm of front armour and dangerous gun!

Lastly, remember that that the Pz.Bfw.VI (P) BR is quite high, and it can meet opponents that are almost invulnerable to the 88 mm gun from the front (even when using APCR), and/or can still instantly destroy the Pz.Bfw.VI (P) with one well aimed shot.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Strong 200 mm (100 + 100) frontal armour.
  • Low chance of fire from front shots thanks to the rear mounted transmission.
  • Accurate gun for long ranges.
  • Has APCR ammunition.
  • Reverse is just as fast as forward drive.
  • Premium vehicle - Earns much more Silver Lion/RPs per battle.

Cons:

  • Huge, exposed sides due to vehicle length and front hull cheeks are prominent weak points.
  • Small weak spot on the hull - the machine gun port.
  • Often not enough penetration against higher BR vehicles it faces.
  • Mobility and top speed is average, turning the tank bleeds speed quickly.
  • Slow turret traverse.
  • Gun mantlet presents a big weakness due to some flat areas.
  • The 204 mm of frontal armour will not stand against high-powered rounds.

History

Development

In 1942, a program to submit a heavy tank design weighing 45 tons mounting the 88 mm KwK 36 cannon derived from the successful 88 mm FlaK gun was launched on May 21. Two companies, Henschel and Porsche were contracted to design the tank hull that could mount the turret designed by Krupp.

Porsche's development for this project was to upgrade their existing VK 30.01 (P) medium tank design, adapting parts from the tank into their new heavy tank. This heavy tank designed by Porsche was designated the VK 45.01 (P) and was powered by twin air-cooled gasoline Porsche Type 101/1 engines that were in the rear of the tank. Each engine drives a separate generator on each side of the tank that would then each power one of the two electric motors for each track. This design resulted in the tank being prone to breakdown due to complexity, high-maintenance, and deficiency in copper quality available for use.

The vehicle was displayed to Hitler on his birthday on April 20, 1942 alongside the Henschel version VK 45.01 (H). Unlike the Henschel variant, which had the turret mounted mid-hull, the Porsche version had the turret mounted far forward on the hull in order to make space for its rear engines and drive system. The tank was then evaluated by a technical commission headed by Albert Speer and it was found that the Henschel design was superior to the Porsche design as it was more mobile, more reliable, and easier to enter production. The Henschel version was accepted into service by the German Wehrmacht and was designated the Tiger I, while the Porsche variant was sidelined. Only five VK 45.01 (P) were produced before its rejection.

Usage

Before even the evaluations began, Porsche was so confident that their design would be chosen that one hundred chassis of the VK 45.01 (P) was already produced. With the Henschel version chosen, the chassis were no longer needed to be made into a tank format, but it would be a waste to simply scrap them. These chassis were converted into casemate structures that could mount the new 88 mm Pak 43 cannon, which was longer and more powerful than the KwK 36 on the Tiger I. This would be called the Ferdinand tank destroyer, later redesignated as the Elefant. Three VK 45.01 (P) was also converted into recovery vehicles designated the Bergepanzer Tiger(P).

Out of the five VK 45.01 (P) produced from its development to its rejection, only one saw service in World War II. The tank had the chassis number 150013 and was converted into a command tank, thus was designated the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P). As a command tank, the tank would have much more radios than usual to allow for command communication between tank units and headquarters. Another feature on the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P) was that an extra 100 mm of armour was welded onto the front hull armour, bringing the original 100 mm hull armour to 200 mm effective in thickness. The tank was used by Hauptmann Grillenberg in turret number 003 and the tank saw service on the Eastern Front with the Ferdinand units, serving in Tank Destroyer Battalion 653. It was deployed in April 1944, but was then lost in July of the same year.

Media

Skins and camouflages for the Pz.Bfw. VI (P) from live.warthunder.com.

Sights

See also

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