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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.45 "Steel Generals"]]. The Pz.Bfw. VI (P) is an up-armoured variant of the [[VK 45.01 (P)]], with an extra 100 mm of armour bolted onto the front plate. | |
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| − | + | It uses the same turret and gun as the Tiger H1 and the same hull as the Ferdinand. Notable differences include a rear-mounted transmission (no more catching fires from frontal shots), a turret without electric drive (its traverse speed is therefore very slow) and the possibility to fire APCR shells. | |
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== General info == | == General info == | ||
=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
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| + | <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' --> | ||
| + | The hull it uses is similar to the Henschel, it has the same 102 mm of front armour, and 82 mm of side and rear armour, only with different shapes. However, additional 102 mm armour plates are bolted to the front, making it a total of 204 mm of steel (the same amount of hull armour can be found on the [[Ferdinand]]). | ||
| − | + | '''Armour type:''' | |
| − | '''Armour type:''' | ||
| − | *Rolled homogeneous armour | + | * Rolled homogeneous armour |
| − | *Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola) | + | * Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola) |
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| Turret || 100 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 90 - 200 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 82 mm || 82 mm || 26 mm | | Turret || 100 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 90 - 200 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 82 mm || 82 mm || 26 mm | ||
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'''Notes:''' | '''Notes:''' | ||
| − | *Lower side hull is only 62 mm thick so watch out. | + | * Lower side hull is only 62 mm thick so watch out. |
| − | *An additional 26 mm of armour is bolted in front of the machine gun port on the hull. | + | * An additional 26 mm of armour is bolted in front of the machine gun port on the hull. |
| − | *Turret front covered by gun mantlet has variable thickness depending on exact place, ranging from 90 to 200 mm of armour. | + | * Turret front covered by gun mantlet has variable thickness depending on exact place, ranging from 90 to 200 mm of armour. |
| − | *Driver's viewport is actually far from being a weak spot, it still counts as part of 200 mm of front armour + 40 mm. | + | * Driver's viewport is actually far from being a weak spot, it still counts as part of 200 mm of front armour + 40 mm. |
=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
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| − | + | Unlike the Henschel's [[Tiger H1]] and most other tanks, it is powered by a rather unusual combination of 2 hybrid gasoline-electric engines. This brings some unusual handling characteristics into play. For example, because it is driven by the electric engine, it can go backwards just as fast as forwards, so it has one of the highest reverse speed in the game. On the other hand, its top speed in both directions is limited (only 31 km/h, and it feels like it could go faster without the limit). It is also a little heavier than the Henschel, has narrower tracks, and its engine output is lower. Soft terrain isn't a friend of this vehicle. | |
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== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
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=== Main armament === | === Main armament === | ||
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| − | {{main| | + | <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' --> |
| + | {{main|KwK36 (88 mm)}} | ||
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| + | ! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced | ||
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| − | ! | + | ! ''Arcade'' |
| + | | rowspan="2" | 80 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 6.1 || 8.4 || 10.2 || 11.3 || 12.0 || rowspan="2" | 9.62 || rowspan="2" | 8.51 || rowspan="2" | 7.84 || rowspan="2" | 7.40 | ||
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| − | + | ==== Ammunition ==== | |
| − | + | * '''Pzgr. 39''' - Stick with this type of shell as it's the best. It will do incredible damage to any encountered tank, except SPAA, AA guns, or AI artillery. It may struggle with some heavier tanks like the IS-1, IS-2, or American heavy tanks at long ranges, but well-placed shots from close range or sides will do the job; all other medium and light tanks will be history as soon as this shell make a contact with them. This shell, however, will almost always over-penetrate all but the most armoured SPAA vehicles, so it is best to use HE or machine gun fire. | |
| − | + | * '''PzGr 40''' - As the APCR round for the gun, this will give the tank the greater edge needed to take out heavily protected tanks. | |
| − | + | * '''Hl.Gr. 39''' - The HEAT shell is best avoided as it deals less damage than the APBC Shell and has a much lower muzzle velocity, meaning that the gun has to aim ridiculously high for sniping. It also offers less penetration than APBC at all ranges. | |
| − | + | * '''Pzgr.''' - This shell is best used in a 0.3 uptier or full down-tier (200 and 220 SP respectively). It has 168 g instead of the 64 g of explosive mass on the Pzgr 39. While its muzzle velocity is slightly higher (810 m/s) the penetration goes down to 153 mm (0 m/0°). The additional explosive mass can help with taking out enemies in a single shot more often but the Pzgr. 39 is usually more than enough to destroy enemies and it offers slightly higher penetration too. | |
| − | + | * '''Sprgr. L/4.5''' - The HE shell is completely ineffective against all but SPAA and the machine gun mounted on the Tiger has proven quite capable of dealing with these. Keep a small supply of this shell on hand if planning to flank the enemy and take out their SPAA or artillery, but avoid them for everything else. | |
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| − | + | ==== [[Ammo racks]] ==== | |
| − | [[File: | + | [[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]] |
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| − | ! | + | ! Full<br>ammo |
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| − | + | | '''80''' || 65 ''(+15)'' || 49 ''(+31)'' || 33 ''(+47)'' || 17 ''(+63)'' || 9 ''(+71)'' || 1 ''(+79)'' || No | |
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| − | + | * As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set. | |
| + | * Flank racks empty: 17 (+63) shells. | ||
=== Machine guns === | === Machine guns === | ||
| − | <!--''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''--> | + | {{Specs-Tank-Weapon|2}} |
| − | {{main| | + | <!-- ''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.'' --> |
| + | {{main|MG34 (7.92 mm)}} | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | With this tank, a calm and patient player will be able to rip apart lots of enemies, before being knocked out. The Tiger P can easily survive a duel with other Henschel Tigers, because its hull armour is much stronger, and they use the same turret, that is rather hard to be | + | With this tank, a calm and patient player will be able to rip apart lots of enemies, before being knocked out. The Tiger I P can easily survive a duel with other Henschel Tigers, because its hull armour is much stronger, and they use the same turret, that is rather hard to be penetrated by Short 8.8cm guns they use. |
One of the flaws of its armour design is that it cannot be effectively angled AT ALL. Because of its front hull cheeks, that are only 82 mm thick, even the slightest angling makes them very vulnerable to all guns, and to make matters even worse, ammunition is stored right behind them on both sides (unless one carries less ammunition). | One of the flaws of its armour design is that it cannot be effectively angled AT ALL. Because of its front hull cheeks, that are only 82 mm thick, even the slightest angling makes them very vulnerable to all guns, and to make matters even worse, ammunition is stored right behind them on both sides (unless one carries less ammunition). | ||
| − | The gameplay is very similar to the [[ | + | The gameplay is very similar to the [[Tiger E]]. Avoid direct close range confrontations (although the Porsche can hold its ground a lot better there), where its weak spots can be targeted, or be flanked easily, and rather use its excellent accurate gun to outrange the opponents from afar while using the terrain and various obstacles as cover (Hulldown manoeuvre). Refrain from angling the armour, as opposed to Box-shaped Henschel Tigers, because of the vulnerable front hull cheeks and much thinner side armour. 204 mm of front hull armour can defeat a lot of shells even completely un-angled, and even more at a high distance. |
| − | Remember about the high reverse speed (31 | + | Remember about the high reverse speed (31 km/h), if the situation is becoming dire, try to retreat from it by reversing while still facing the opponents with 200 mm of front armour and dangerous gun. |
| − | Lastly, remember that that the | + | Lastly, remember that that the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P's BR is quite high, and it can meet opponents that are almost invulnerable to the 88 mm gun from the front (even when using APCR), and/or can still instantly destroy the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P with one well-aimed shot. |
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | * Strong | + | * Strong frontal armour |
* Low chance of fire from front shots thanks to the rear-mounted transmission | * Low chance of fire from front shots thanks to the rear-mounted transmission | ||
* Accurate gun for long ranges | * Accurate gun for long ranges | ||
* Has APCR ammunition | * Has APCR ammunition | ||
| − | * Reverse is just as fast as forward drive | + | * Reverse speed is just as fast as forward drive |
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
* Huge, exposed sides due to vehicle length and front hull cheeks are prominent weak points | * Huge, exposed sides due to vehicle length and front hull cheeks are prominent weak points | ||
| − | * Small weak spot on the hull | + | * Small weak spot on the hull (machine gun port) |
* Often not enough penetration against higher BR vehicles it faces | * Often not enough penetration against higher BR vehicles it faces | ||
* Mobility and top speed is average, turning the tank bleeds speed quickly | * Mobility and top speed is average, turning the tank bleeds speed quickly | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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===Development=== | ===Development=== | ||
| − | In 1942, a program to submit a heavy tank design weighing 45 tons mounting the 88 mm KwK 36 cannon derived from the successful 88 mm FlaK gun was launched on May 21. Two companies, Henschel and Porsche were contracted to design the tank hull that could mount the turret designed by Krupp. | + | In 1942, a program to submit a heavy tank design weighing 45 tons mounting the 88 mm KwK 36 cannon derived from the successful 88 mm FlaK gun was launched on May 21. Two companies, Henschel and Porsche were contracted to design the tank hull that could mount the turret designed by Krupp. |
| − | Porsche's development for this project was to upgrade their existing VK 30.01 (P) medium tank design, adapting parts from the tank into their new heavy tank. This heavy tank designed by Porsche was designated the '''[[VK 45.01 (P)|VK 45.01 (P)]]''' and was powered by twin air-cooled gasoline Porsche Type 101/1 engines that were in the rear of the tank. Each engine drives a separate generator on each side of the tank that would then each power one of the two electric motors for each track. This design resulted in the tank being prone to breakdown due to complexity, high-maintenance, and deficiency in copper quality available for use. | + | Porsche's development for this project was to upgrade their existing VK 30.01 (P) medium tank design, adapting parts from the tank into their new heavy tank. This heavy tank designed by Porsche was designated the '''[[VK 45.01 (P)|VK 45.01 (P)]]''' and was powered by twin air-cooled gasoline Porsche Type 101/1 engines that were in the rear of the tank. Each engine drives a separate generator on each side of the tank that would then each power one of the two electric motors for each track. This design resulted in the tank being prone to breakdown due to complexity, high-maintenance, and deficiency in copper quality available for use. |
The vehicle was displayed to Hitler on his birthday on April 20, 1942, alongside the Henschel version VK 45.01 (H). Unlike the Henschel variant, which had the turret mounted mid-hull, the Porsche version had the turret mounted far forward on the hull in order to make space for its rear engines and drive system. The tank was then evaluated by a technical committee headed by Albert Speer and it was found that the Henschel design was superior to the Porsche design as it was more mobile, more reliable, and easier to enter production. The Henschel version was accepted into service by the German Wehrmacht and was designated the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]], while the Porsche variant was sidelined. Only five VK 45.01 (P) were produced before its rejection. | The vehicle was displayed to Hitler on his birthday on April 20, 1942, alongside the Henschel version VK 45.01 (H). Unlike the Henschel variant, which had the turret mounted mid-hull, the Porsche version had the turret mounted far forward on the hull in order to make space for its rear engines and drive system. The tank was then evaluated by a technical committee headed by Albert Speer and it was found that the Henschel design was superior to the Porsche design as it was more mobile, more reliable, and easier to enter production. The Henschel version was accepted into service by the German Wehrmacht and was designated the [[Tiger H1|Tiger I]], while the Porsche variant was sidelined. Only five VK 45.01 (P) were produced before its rejection. | ||
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Out of the five VK 45.01 (P) produced from its development to its rejection, only one saw service in World War II. The tank had the chassis number 150013 and was converted into a command tank, thus was designated the '''Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P)'''. As a command tank, the tank would have much more radios than usual to allow for command communication between tank units and headquarters. Another feature on the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P) was that an extra 100 mm of armour was welded onto the front hull armour, bringing the original 100 mm hull armour to 200 mm effective in thickness. The tank was used by Hauptmann Grillenberg in turret number 003 and the tank saw service on the Eastern Front with the Ferdinand units, serving in Tank Destroyer Battalion 653. It was deployed in April 1944 but was then lost in July of the same year. | Out of the five VK 45.01 (P) produced from its development to its rejection, only one saw service in World War II. The tank had the chassis number 150013 and was converted into a command tank, thus was designated the '''Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P)'''. As a command tank, the tank would have much more radios than usual to allow for command communication between tank units and headquarters. Another feature on the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P) was that an extra 100 mm of armour was welded onto the front hull armour, bringing the original 100 mm hull armour to 200 mm effective in thickness. The tank was used by Hauptmann Grillenberg in turret number 003 and the tank saw service on the Eastern Front with the Ferdinand units, serving in Tank Destroyer Battalion 653. It was deployed in April 1944 but was then lost in July of the same year. | ||
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| − | The Tiger Porsche heavy tanks built by Ferdinand Porsche (Nibelungen-Werke) were developed to compete with Erwin | + | {{Navigation-Start|{{Annotation|Archive of the in-game description|An archive of the historical description of the vehicle that was presented in-game prior to Update 1.55 'Royal Armour'}}}} |
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| + | The Tiger Porsche heavy tanks built by Ferdinand Porsche (Nibelungen-Werke) were developed to compete with Erwin Aders's tanks (Henschel), but they essentially lost the competition. Most of the completed bodies equipped with track assembly and engines went toward the construction of the Ferdinand/Elefant tank destroyers. | ||
However, several (at least ten) bodies of the future Porsche tank were built in 1942 and equipped with Krupp turrets. Several of these prototypes underwent testing at the Dyullerskheym training ground in the summer/fall of 1942 and were even used by the 503rd tank battalion as training vehicles. | However, several (at least ten) bodies of the future Porsche tank were built in 1942 and equipped with Krupp turrets. Several of these prototypes underwent testing at the Dyullerskheym training ground in the summer/fall of 1942 and were even used by the 503rd tank battalion as training vehicles. | ||
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== Media == | == Media == | ||
| − | <!--'' | + | <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' --> |
| − | [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/? | + | |
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| + | ;Skins | ||
| + | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=germ_panzerbefelhswagen_VI_P Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
| − | * [https://live.warthunder.com/post/675135/en/ RideR2's Realistic gunsight | + | ;Sights |
| + | * [https://live.warthunder.com/post/675135/en/ RideR2's Realistic and semi-realistic gunsight reticles for German vehicles.] | ||
| + | * [https://live.warthunder.com/post/1043715/en/ Caff_Gunner's (Germany) Historical and semi-historical gun reticles.] | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
| − | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | + | <!-- ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' |
| + | * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | ||
| + | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | ||
| − | * | + | ;Related development |
| − | * | + | * [[Tiger I (Family)]] |
| + | ** [[VK 45.01 (P)]] | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
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* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' | ||
{{Germany heavy tanks}} | {{Germany heavy tanks}} | ||
{{Germany premium ground vehicles}} | {{Germany premium ground vehicles}} | ||
Revision as of 05:12, 10 April 2024
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Description
The Panzerbefehlswagen VI P is a premium rank IV German heavy tank with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". The Pz.Bfw. VI (P) is an up-armoured variant of the VK 45.01 (P), with an extra 100 mm of armour bolted onto the front plate.
It uses the same turret and gun as the Tiger H1 and the same hull as the Ferdinand. Notable differences include a rear-mounted transmission (no more catching fires from frontal shots), a turret without electric drive (its traverse speed is therefore very slow) and the possibility to fire APCR shells.
General info
Survivability and armour
Armourfront / side / back
Hull204 / 82 / 82
Turret120 / 82 / 82
Crew5 people
Visibility107 %
The hull it uses is similar to the Henschel, it has the same 102 mm of front armour, and 82 mm of side and rear armour, only with different shapes. However, additional 102 mm armour plates are bolted to the front, making it a total of 204 mm of steel (the same amount of hull armour can be found on the Ferdinand).
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armour
- Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | 102 + 102 mm (8°) Front plate 62 mm (78°), 102 + 102 mm (30°) Front glacis 82 mm (46°) Lower glacis |
82 mm | 82 mm | 26 mm |
| Turret | 100 mm Turret front 90 - 200 mm Gun mantlet |
82 mm | 82 mm | 26 mm |
| Cupola | 80 mm | 80 mm | 80 mm | 26 mm |
Notes:
- Lower side hull is only 62 mm thick so watch out.
- An additional 26 mm of armour is bolted in front of the machine gun port on the hull.
- Turret front covered by gun mantlet has variable thickness depending on exact place, ranging from 90 to 200 mm of armour.
- Driver's viewport is actually far from being a weak spot, it still counts as part of 200 mm of front armour + 40 mm.
Mobility
Speedforward / back
AB34 / 31 km/h
RB and SB32 / 29 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
4 back
Weight60.0 t
Engine power
AB1 192 hp
RB and SB625 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB19.9 hp/t
RB and SB10.4 hp/t
Unlike the Henschel's Tiger H1 and most other tanks, it is powered by a rather unusual combination of 2 hybrid gasoline-electric engines. This brings some unusual handling characteristics into play. For example, because it is driven by the electric engine, it can go backwards just as fast as forwards, so it has one of the highest reverse speed in the game. On the other hand, its top speed in both directions is limited (only 31 km/h, and it feels like it could go faster without the limit). It is also a little heavier than the Henschel, has narrower tracks, and its engine output is lower. Soft terrain isn't a friend of this vehicle.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 34 | 31 | 60 | 807 | 1,192 | 13.45 | 19.87 |
| Realistic | 32 | 29 | 553 | 625 | 9.22 | 10.42 | |
Modifications and economy
Repair cost
AB2 607 
RB2 786
SB3 891
Crew training10 000
Experts340 000
Aces890 
Research Aces1 140 000 
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
2 × 130 / 190 / 220 % 2 × 178 / 178 / 178 % | Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Main armament
Ammunition80 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
9.6 → 7.4 s
Vertical guidance-8° / 16°
| 88 mm KwK36 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 80 | -8°/+16° | ±180° | N/A | 6.1 | 8.4 | 10.2 | 11.3 | 12.0 | 9.62 | 8.51 | 7.84 | 7.40 |
| Realistic | 4.5 | 5.3 | 6.4 | 7.0 | 7.5 | ||||||||
Ammunition
- Pzgr. 39 - Stick with this type of shell as it's the best. It will do incredible damage to any encountered tank, except SPAA, AA guns, or AI artillery. It may struggle with some heavier tanks like the IS-1, IS-2, or American heavy tanks at long ranges, but well-placed shots from close range or sides will do the job; all other medium and light tanks will be history as soon as this shell make a contact with them. This shell, however, will almost always over-penetrate all but the most armoured SPAA vehicles, so it is best to use HE or machine gun fire.
- PzGr 40 - As the APCR round for the gun, this will give the tank the greater edge needed to take out heavily protected tanks.
- Hl.Gr. 39 - The HEAT shell is best avoided as it deals less damage than the APBC Shell and has a much lower muzzle velocity, meaning that the gun has to aim ridiculously high for sniping. It also offers less penetration than APBC at all ranges.
- Pzgr. - This shell is best used in a 0.3 uptier or full down-tier (200 and 220 SP respectively). It has 168 g instead of the 64 g of explosive mass on the Pzgr 39. While its muzzle velocity is slightly higher (810 m/s) the penetration goes down to 153 mm (0 m/0°). The additional explosive mass can help with taking out enemies in a single shot more often but the Pzgr. 39 is usually more than enough to destroy enemies and it offers slightly higher penetration too.
- Sprgr. L/4.5 - The HE shell is completely ineffective against all but SPAA and the machine gun mounted on the Tiger has proven quite capable of dealing with these. Keep a small supply of this shell on hand if planning to flank the enemy and take out their SPAA or artillery, but avoid them for everything else.
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| PzGr 39 | APCBC | 165 | 162 | 151 | 139 | 127 | 117 |
| PzGr 40 | APCR | 211 | 207 | 191 | 172 | 155 | 140 |
| Hl.Gr 39 | HEAT | 110 | 110 | 110 | 110 | 110 | 110 |
| Pzgr. | APCBC | 153 | 151 | 140 | 128 | 116 | 106 |
| Sprgr. L/4.5 | HE | 18 | 18 | 17 | 15 | 14 | 13 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| PzGr 39 | APCBC | 773 | 10.2 | 1.2 | 14 | 108.8 | 48° | 63° | 71° | |||
| PzGr 40 | APCR | 930 | 7.3 | - | - | - | 66° | 70° | 72° | |||
| Hl.Gr 39 | HEAT | 600 | 7.64 | 0 | 0.3 | 1,100 | 62° | 69° | 73° | |||
| Pzgr. | APCBC | 810 | 9.5 | 1.2 | 14 | 215.04 | 48° | 63° | 71° | |||
| Sprgr. L/4.5 | HE | 820 | 9 | 0.2 | 0.1 | 900 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 80 | 65 (+15) | 49 (+31) | 33 (+47) | 17 (+63) | 9 (+71) | 1 (+79) | No |
Notes:
- As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
- Flank racks empty: 17 (+63) shells.
Machine guns
7.92 mm MG34 machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition1 800 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate900 shots/min
| 7.92 mm MG34 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| Coaxial | 1,800 (150) | 900 | N/A | N/A |
Usage in battles
With this tank, a calm and patient player will be able to rip apart lots of enemies, before being knocked out. The Tiger I P can easily survive a duel with other Henschel Tigers, because its hull armour is much stronger, and they use the same turret, that is rather hard to be penetrated by Short 8.8cm guns they use.
One of the flaws of its armour design is that it cannot be effectively angled AT ALL. Because of its front hull cheeks, that are only 82 mm thick, even the slightest angling makes them very vulnerable to all guns, and to make matters even worse, ammunition is stored right behind them on both sides (unless one carries less ammunition).
The gameplay is very similar to the Tiger E. Avoid direct close range confrontations (although the Porsche can hold its ground a lot better there), where its weak spots can be targeted, or be flanked easily, and rather use its excellent accurate gun to outrange the opponents from afar while using the terrain and various obstacles as cover (Hulldown manoeuvre). Refrain from angling the armour, as opposed to Box-shaped Henschel Tigers, because of the vulnerable front hull cheeks and much thinner side armour. 204 mm of front hull armour can defeat a lot of shells even completely un-angled, and even more at a high distance.
Remember about the high reverse speed (31 km/h), if the situation is becoming dire, try to retreat from it by reversing while still facing the opponents with 200 mm of front armour and dangerous gun.
Lastly, remember that that the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P's BR is quite high, and it can meet opponents that are almost invulnerable to the 88 mm gun from the front (even when using APCR), and/or can still instantly destroy the Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P with one well-aimed shot.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Strong frontal armour
- Low chance of fire from front shots thanks to the rear-mounted transmission
- Accurate gun for long ranges
- Has APCR ammunition
- Reverse speed is just as fast as forward drive
Cons:
- Huge, exposed sides due to vehicle length and front hull cheeks are prominent weak points
- Small weak spot on the hull (machine gun port)
- Often not enough penetration against higher BR vehicles it faces
- Mobility and top speed is average, turning the tank bleeds speed quickly
- Slow turret traverse
- Gun mantlet presents a big weakness due to some flat areas
- The 204 mm of frontal armour will not stand against high-powered rounds
History
Development
In 1942, a program to submit a heavy tank design weighing 45 tons mounting the 88 mm KwK 36 cannon derived from the successful 88 mm FlaK gun was launched on May 21. Two companies, Henschel and Porsche were contracted to design the tank hull that could mount the turret designed by Krupp.
Porsche's development for this project was to upgrade their existing VK 30.01 (P) medium tank design, adapting parts from the tank into their new heavy tank. This heavy tank designed by Porsche was designated the VK 45.01 (P) and was powered by twin air-cooled gasoline Porsche Type 101/1 engines that were in the rear of the tank. Each engine drives a separate generator on each side of the tank that would then each power one of the two electric motors for each track. This design resulted in the tank being prone to breakdown due to complexity, high-maintenance, and deficiency in copper quality available for use.
The vehicle was displayed to Hitler on his birthday on April 20, 1942, alongside the Henschel version VK 45.01 (H). Unlike the Henschel variant, which had the turret mounted mid-hull, the Porsche version had the turret mounted far forward on the hull in order to make space for its rear engines and drive system. The tank was then evaluated by a technical committee headed by Albert Speer and it was found that the Henschel design was superior to the Porsche design as it was more mobile, more reliable, and easier to enter production. The Henschel version was accepted into service by the German Wehrmacht and was designated the Tiger I, while the Porsche variant was sidelined. Only five VK 45.01 (P) were produced before its rejection.
Usage
Before even the evaluations began, Porsche was so confident that their design would be chosen that one hundred chassis of the VK 45.01 (P) was already produced. With the Henschel version chosen, the chassis was no longer needed to be made into a tank format, but it would be a waste to simply scrap them. These chassis were converted into casemate structures that could mount the new 88 mm Pak 43 cannon, which was longer and more powerful than the KwK 36 on the Tiger I. This would be called the Ferdinand tank destroyer, later redesignated as the Elefant. Three VK 45.01 (P) was also converted into recovery vehicles designated the Bergepanzer Tiger(P).
Out of the five VK 45.01 (P) produced from its development to its rejection, only one saw service in World War II. The tank had the chassis number 150013 and was converted into a command tank, thus was designated the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P). As a command tank, the tank would have much more radios than usual to allow for command communication between tank units and headquarters. Another feature on the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P) was that an extra 100 mm of armour was welded onto the front hull armour, bringing the original 100 mm hull armour to 200 mm effective in thickness. The tank was used by Hauptmann Grillenberg in turret number 003 and the tank saw service on the Eastern Front with the Ferdinand units, serving in Tank Destroyer Battalion 653. It was deployed in April 1944 but was then lost in July of the same year.
| Archive of the in-game description | |
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The Tiger Porsche heavy tanks built by Ferdinand Porsche (Nibelungen-Werke) were developed to compete with Erwin Aders's tanks (Henschel), but they essentially lost the competition. Most of the completed bodies equipped with track assembly and engines went toward the construction of the Ferdinand/Elefant tank destroyers. However, several (at least ten) bodies of the future Porsche tank were built in 1942 and equipped with Krupp turrets. Several of these prototypes underwent testing at the Dyullerskheym training ground in the summer/fall of 1942 and were even used by the 503rd tank battalion as training vehicles. | |
Media
- Images
- Skins
- Sights
- RideR2's Realistic and semi-realistic gunsight reticles for German vehicles.
- Caff_Gunner's (Germany) Historical and semi-historical gun reticles.
See also
- Related development
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
| Germany heavy tanks | |
|---|---|
| Tiger 1 (Henschel) | Tiger H1 · Tiger E · ␠Tiger |
| Tiger 1 (Porsche) | VK 45.01 (P) · Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P |
| Tiger 2 | Tiger II (P) · Tiger II (H) · Tiger II (H) Sla.16 · Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) |
| Super heavy tanks | Maus · E-100 |
| Trophies | |
| Great Britain | ▀Pz.Kpfw. Churchill |
| USSR | ▀KV-IB · ▀KW I C 756 (r) · ▀KW II 754 (r) |
| Germany premium ground vehicles | |
|---|---|
| Light tanks | Pz.II C (DAK) · Pz.Sfl.Ic · Pz.Sp.Wg.P204(f) KwK · Sd.Kfz. 140/1 · Sd.Kfz.234/1 · Ru 251 · SPz 12-3 LGS · TAM 2IP |
| Medium tanks | Nb.Fz. · Pz.III N · Pz.Bef.Wg.IV J · ▀M4 748 (a) · ▀T 34 747 (r) · Ersatz M10 |
| mKPz M47 G · Turm III · Leopard A1A1 (L/44) · Leopard 2 (PzBtl 123) · Leopard 2A4M | |
| Heavy tanks | ▀Pz.Kpfw. Churchill · ▀KV-IB · ▀KW I C 756 (r) · ▀KW II 754 (r) |
| VK 45.01 (P) · ␠Tiger · Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P · Tiger II (H) Sla.16 | |
| Tank destroyers | Sd.Kfz.234/3 · Sd.Kfz.234/4 · Sd.Kfz.251/10 · Sd.Kfz.251/22 · 15 cm Pz.W.42 |
| Brummbär · Panzer IV/70(A) · VFW · Bfw. Jagdpanther G1 · Elefant · 38 cm Sturmmörser | |
