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+ | | about = jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | ||
+ | | usage = other versions | ||
+ | | link = F-104 (Family) | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | {{Specs-Card | ||
+ | |code=f-104g_china | ||
+ | |images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}} | ||
+ | }} | ||
== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''', commonly known as the "星式戰鬥機" (literal translation of "Starfighter") or by its notorious nicknames "寡婦製造機" (Widowmaker) and "飛行棺材" (Flying Coffin) derived from the Luftwaffe, was a later variant of the F-104 that was acquired by the ROCAF through Project Alishan (阿里山計劃) as a replacement for the earlier fleet of subsonics and F-100s during the intense conflicts across the strait in the 1960s. The first F-104Gs arrived in the ROCAF in 1963 through the Alishan No.2 program, with a series of new jets provided by Lockheed and Canadair. Later on, additional F-104Gs from the Luftwaffe and the Danish Air Force were also delivered to the ROCAF as supplementary jets. This particular variant of the Starfighter was the only one in the ROCAF to engage in aerial combat with the PLAAF in 1967, with sources suggesting different outcomes. 4353/64-17779 was confirmed as the only F-104G lost in combat. Some F-104Gs were later converted into reconnaissance variants, known as the TF-104G, and were used for reconnaissance missions along the coastline of Mainland China. Despite becoming extremely outdated by the 1990s, these jets continued to participate in the most intense Combat Air Patrol (CAP) missions around Taiwan Island, in preparation for the potential outbreak of war. After the introduction of the F-CK-1, Mirage 2000-5Ei, and the [[F-16A MLU (China)|F-16 Block 20]] in ROCAF service, the Starfighters were decommissioned and some are now scattered across the islands as monuments or exhibits. | |
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− | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' | + | Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the multi-role F-104G model, originally developed for export to Germany, represents a significant advancement compared to the preceding ROCAF [[F-104A (China)|F-104A]]. It features a more powerful engine and an improved range of suspended ordnance. This Taiwanese example differs from the original F-104G by having access to the AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missile and the AGM-12B Bullpup air-to-ground missile, making it one of the most formidable Starfighters. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
=== Flight performance === | === Flight performance === | ||
+ | {{Specs-Avia-Flight}} | ||
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+ | The F-104G has about 8% more engine thrust than the F-104A in exchange for slightly increased weight. The general performance has been improved but the characteristics remain similar, so anyone used to flying the F-104A will find the transition easy. As with the other Starfighters, the F-104G has great speed, acceleration, and climb rate due to its streamlined aerodynamics and powerful engine. This is achieved at the cost of low-speed handling and turning capabilities. It only turns acceptably at transonic or supersonic speeds, anything below that being far below average for a jet fighter. The stubby wings with a low aspect ratio also contribute to poor manoeuvring energy retention, so extended turning will bleed energy quickly. The roll rate is good, which helps in defensive manoeuvres. | ||
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! Stock | ! Stock | ||
− | | | + | | 2,341 || 2,315 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 34.5 || 35.1 || 230.3 || 222.2 || rowspan="2" | 850 |
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! Upgraded | ! Upgraded | ||
− | | | + | | 2,433 || 2,387 || 33.5 || 34.0 || 292.1 || 260.0 |
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute | ! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute | ||
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ||
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− | | {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || | + | | 1,527 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 827 || 444 || ~12 || ~5 |
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator | ! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator | ||
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− | | < | + | | < 720 || < 950 || < 800 || N/A |
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+ | |} | ||
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+ | ==== Engine performance ==== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" | Engine | ||
+ | ! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | colspan="2" | General Electric J79-GE-11 || 1 | ||
+ | | colspan="2" | 6,552 kg || colspan="3" | 532 kg/m<sup>2</sup> | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics | ||
+ | ! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type | ||
+ | ! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 1,615 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | ||
+ | | 7,345 kg || 8,057 kg || 8,809 kg || 9,194 kg || 24,000 kg | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ||
+ | ! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! Condition || 100% || WEP | ||
+ | ! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel || MTOW | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | ''Stationary'' || 4,128 kgf || 6,357 kgf | ||
+ | | 0.87 || 0.79 || 0.72 || 0.69 || 0.26 | ||
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+ | | ''Optimal'' || 4,128 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || 8,391 kgf<br>(1,200 km/h) | ||
+ | | 1.14 || 1.04 || 0.95 || 0.91 || 0.35 | ||
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=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
+ | {{Specs-Avia-Armour}} | ||
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+ | The F-104G is not equipped with any armour plating, and is therefore rather vulnerable to enemy fire, especially given the fact that most enemies at this rank sport high-calibre cannons. Since the plane's wings are so small, any damage to them at all drastically reduces stability and manoeuvrability, and may result in a crash. All of the vehicle's fuel tanks are centrally located, so fuel fires are unlikely to occur. However, the engine is very large, so it is very likely that it will sustain heavy damage if the vehicle is fired upon. | ||
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+ | === Modifications and economy === | ||
+ | {{Specs-Economy}} | ||
== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
+ | {{Specs-Avia-Armaments}} | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Tick}} || {{Cross}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} | ||
=== Offensive armament === | === Offensive armament === | ||
+ | {{Specs-Avia-Offensive}} | ||
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{{main|M61A1 (20 mm)}} | {{main|M61A1 (20 mm)}} | ||
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | ||
− | * 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, -mounted (750 rpg) | + | * 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, nose-mounted (750 rpg) |
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+ | The M61 Vulcan is a powerful gatling cannon. A quick and accurate burst can send targets into flames and the incredible rate of fire allows for some spray-and-pray, which is especially helpful considering how difficult it can be to get guns on target in this aircraft. But it has several drawbacks: first, the gun needs to spool up momentarily before it will fire, and second, the ammunition supply of 750 rounds will be depleted in no time if fired continuously. The former makes tap firing the gun to conserve ammunition a difficult affair but the latter means that holding down the trigger is not optimal either—certainly an awkward situation! New pilots can be afford to be somewhat more trigger-happy as they get used to the gun. | ||
=== Suspended armament === | === Suspended armament === | ||
+ | {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} | ||
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | ||
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+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
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+ | ! !! width="6%" | 1 !! width="6%" | 2 !! width="6%" | 3 !! width="6%" | 4 !! width="6%" | 5 !! width="6%" | 6 !! width="6%" | 7 | ||
+ | | rowspan="12" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-104G_(Germany).png]]</div> | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs | ||
+ | | || 1 || || 1* || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[Mk 82 Snakeye (500 lb)|500 lb Mk 82 Snakeye]] bombs | ||
+ | | || 1 || || 1* || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|750 lb M117 cone 45]] bombs | ||
+ | | || 1 || || 1* || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83]] bombs | ||
+ | | || 1 || || 1* || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[BLU-1 incendiary]] bombs | ||
+ | | || 1 || || 1* || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[Hydra-70 M247]] rockets | ||
+ | | || 7 || || || || 7 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AGM-12B Bullpup]] missiles | ||
+ | | || 1 || || || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AIM-9B Sidewinder]] missiles | ||
+ | | 1 || || 1* || || 1* || || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AIM-9E Sidewinder]] missiles | ||
+ | | 1 || || || || || || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AIM-9J Sidewinder]] missiles | ||
+ | | 1 || || 1* || || 1* || || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | colspan="8" | Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | colspan="9" | * Ordnance on hardpoint 4 cannot be carried in conjunction with missiles on hardpoints 3/5 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} | ||
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+ | {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}} | ||
* Without load | * Without load | ||
+ | * 2 x AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles | ||
+ | * 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | ||
+ | * 4 x AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles | ||
* 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets | * 14 x Hydra-70 M247 rockets | ||
* 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles | * 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles | ||
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* 3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (1,500 lb total) | * 3 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (1,500 lb total) | ||
+ | * 3 x 500 lb Mk 82 Snakeye bombs (1,500 lb total) | ||
* 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total) | * 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total) | ||
* 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total) | * 3 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (3,000 lb total) | ||
− | * | + | * 3 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs |
− | + | {{Navigation-End}} | |
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− | + | As a fighter bomber variant of the F-104, the F-104G has vastly improved ordnance compared to the F-104A's measly pair of AIM-9Bs. For air-to-air combat, the best loadout consists of four AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles. The AIM-9Js have good range, target acquisition, and manoeuvrability. They can be fired from a fairly safe distance and score kills reliably, which is definitely helpful since the F-104G does not fare well in close-quarters dogfights. | |
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− | + | For ground attack, the F-104G can carry bombs, rockets, and missiles. The largest bombload consists of three 1000 lb bombs. The only rockets it has access to are Hydra-70s with decent penetration but low explosive mass and ammo count. The real stars of the show for tank busting are the pair of AGM-12B Bullpup air-to-ground missiles. These have a warhead twice as large as the AS-20 Nords carried by the German F-104G and require less precision to score a kill. However they fly significantly slower, which can either be a good or bad quality depending on one's skill with manual guidance. Two AIM-9J Sidewinders can be carried in addition to the Bullpups to round out the loadout. | |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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− | === | + | The F-104G does one thing extremely well: speed. This is the vehicle's greatest advantage, and can be used to great effect if the pilot is careful about choosing which engagements to pursue. It is recommended to keep up a high air-speed at all times, which will allow the F-104G to swoop in and out of the combat zone while evading enemies. Stick to boom-and-zoom attacks and avoid charging directly into combat. Keep a safe distance from enemy fighters, as it is easy for enemies to make the F-104G overshoot or otherwise reverse it. If an enemy gets on the F-104G's tail, there is not much one can do besides accelerating away or in emergencies using the roll rate to dodge fire and enter rolling scissors. If a safe distance is maintained, it is even possible to outrun enemy air-to-air missiles. |
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− | ! | + | The F-104G struggles with manoeuvrability. With such small wings, it simply can't produce the lift necessary to throw itself around the sky, and therefore has a very poor turning circle. This means that any turning engagement is most likely futile, and also re-emphasises the utility of a boom and zoom playstyle. Note that the use of flaps can significantly improve turning performance, even at high speeds, but any situation requiring hard turning is in all likelihood unfavourable to the F-104G to begin with. |
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− | ! | + | This vehicle is equipped with [[AIM-9J]] air-to-air missiles, which are some of the best in the game. With the ability to mount four of them, this vehicle has the potential to do great damage to enemy targets. The F-104G can also equip a wide variety of bombs and rockets, which allows it to fulfill a ground-attack role. It is inferior to the [[F-104S]] in total bombload and rocket selection and is still oriented towards air superiority overall. In combined battles, the Bullpup AGMs are effective for destroying tanks. But a few factors dampen the F-104G's utility here: its poor handling and high speed give only a small window of time to manually guide the Bullpups, it does not perform well in hectic low-altitude dogfights. It can be used in a lineup with the [[ZTZ99-II]] and [[ZTZ99-III]] MBTs. Tankers who wish to bring in Bullpups for close air support when playing with the [[ZTZ96A]] will be better served by the [[F-100A (China)|F-100A]]. |
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− | ! | + | === Radars === |
− | ! | + | <!--{{main|AN/APS-19}}--> |
+ | The F-104G is equipped with a PS-03 search and tracking radar. The radar is mounted in the nose of the aircraft. | ||
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+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
+ | ! colspan="4" | PS-03 - Target Detection Radar | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The maximum possible range at which a target can be detected}} | ||
+ | ! {{Annotation|Guaranteed<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The range, below which, detection of a target is practically guaranteed}} | ||
+ | ! {{Annotation|Max Azimuth<br/>Scan Angle|How far to each side the radar can scan (widest search mode)}} | ||
+ | ! {{Annotation|Max Elevation<br/>Scan Angle|How far up and down the radar can scan (widest search mode)}} | ||
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− | | | + | | 90,000 m<br />(theoretical) || 30,000 m || ±60.0° || -30.0°/+60.0° |
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− | | | + | ! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}} |
− | | | + | ! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}} |
− | | | + | ! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking<br/>Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}} |
− | | | + | ! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking<br/>Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}} |
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− | | | + | | 75,000 m || 200 m || ±60.0° || -30.0°/+60.0° |
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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− | * | + | * Good top speed |
+ | * Great rate of climb | ||
+ | * Powerful M61 cannon with high fire rate, good damage, great velocity, and plenty of rounds | ||
+ | * Significantly wider variety of payload options than early F-104s, including the potent AGM-12B Bullpup air-to-ground missiles | ||
+ | * Good roll rate | ||
+ | * Can carry a total of four effective AIM-9J missiles | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * | + | * Very poor overall manoeuvrability and terrible low-speed manoeuvrability |
+ | * Bleeds off airspeed quickly in sustained turns | ||
+ | * Lack of countermeasures is a major handicap as the IR missiles the F-104G commonly faces are extremely difficult for it to dodge without flares | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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+ | The Lockheed F-104 Starfighter was a supersonic jet fighter known for its distinctive appearance, described as a "missile with a man in it". At the time of its introduction in 1958 with the US Air Force as an interceptor, the F-104 set multiple performance records and was the first production fighter capable of flying at twice the speed of sound. Flaws of the design included engine troubles, limited range, and poor handling characteristics that led to a poor safety record, earning it several morbid nicknames like "Widowmaker". | ||
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+ | The F-104's involvement with the Republic of China/Taiwan began soon after it entered service with the US Air Force in 1958. The Second Taiwan Straits Crisis in the August of that year was sparked by the People's Liberation Army shelling new ROC military installations on the islands of Kinmen and the Matsu Archipelago. The USAF deployed F-104s to Taiwan and used them to perform supersonic passes into the airspace of the Straits and mainland China in order to show off the capabilities of the Mach-2 capable Starfighter and intimidate the PLAAF, which at that time was equipped with [[J-2|MiG-15]]s and [[J-4|MiG-17]]s. No actual shooting engagements occurred and the F-104s were withdrawn after a cease fire in October. | ||
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+ | The Republic of China Air Force received its first Starfighters starting in 1960, the first batch of F-104A/Bs being from ex-USAF stock. Over the decades, subsequent batches were obtained from a wide variety of countries. The F-104G was obtained from the United States in 1964-69, from Germany in 1983, and from Denmark in 1987, totalling 99 single seaters. More than half of the total Starfighter inventory of the ROCAF consisted of the F-104G, making it the most numerically important model and also the most advanced, along with the [[F-104J]]s they had received from Japan. | ||
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+ | In operational service, the Starfighters were used to patrol the Straits and was the ROCAF's most capable interceptor for much of the Cold War era. ROCAF F-104Gs engaged PLAAF [[J-6A|J-6]]s in the airspace of Kinmen in January 1967 (the last aerial combat with the PLAAF to date) and reportedly scored two kills, though one F-104 did not return to base and may have been lost. PLAAF pilot Hu Shougen 胡寿根 claimed the victory on 4353/64-17779, while the ROCAF claimed 2 victories over J-6s from their radio surveillance. Their service was otherwise uneventful. The early Starfighter models were retired from combat roles in the 1980s and the late models continued to serve up to 1997 with upgrades to their weaponry until new fighter jets eventually replaced them in ROCAF service. | ||
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+ | A large number of Starfighters are preserved and on display in Taiwan today. Single-seat F-104Gs can be found at Ching Chuang Kang Air Base, Kangshan Chinese Air Force Museum, Pingtung Air Base, and other locations. A full list can be found [https://www.i-f-s.nl/preserved-f-104s/preserved-in-taiwan/ here]. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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+ | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f-104g_china Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
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Revision as of 04:49, 20 December 2023
This page is about the jet fighter F-104G (China). For other versions, see F-104 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The ␗F-104G Starfighter, commonly known as the "星式戰鬥機" (literal translation of "Starfighter") or by its notorious nicknames "寡婦製造機" (Widowmaker) and "飛行棺材" (Flying Coffin) derived from the Luftwaffe, was a later variant of the F-104 that was acquired by the ROCAF through Project Alishan (阿里山計劃) as a replacement for the earlier fleet of subsonics and F-100s during the intense conflicts across the strait in the 1960s. The first F-104Gs arrived in the ROCAF in 1963 through the Alishan No.2 program, with a series of new jets provided by Lockheed and Canadair. Later on, additional F-104Gs from the Luftwaffe and the Danish Air Force were also delivered to the ROCAF as supplementary jets. This particular variant of the Starfighter was the only one in the ROCAF to engage in aerial combat with the PLAAF in 1967, with sources suggesting different outcomes. 4353/64-17779 was confirmed as the only F-104G lost in combat. Some F-104Gs were later converted into reconnaissance variants, known as the TF-104G, and were used for reconnaissance missions along the coastline of Mainland China. Despite becoming extremely outdated by the 1990s, these jets continued to participate in the most intense Combat Air Patrol (CAP) missions around Taiwan Island, in preparation for the potential outbreak of war. After the introduction of the F-CK-1, Mirage 2000-5Ei, and the F-16 Block 20 in ROCAF service, the Starfighters were decommissioned and some are now scattered across the islands as monuments or exhibits.
Introduced in Update "Starfighters", the multi-role F-104G model, originally developed for export to Germany, represents a significant advancement compared to the preceding ROCAF F-104A. It features a more powerful engine and an improved range of suspended ordnance. This Taiwanese example differs from the original F-104G by having access to the AIM-9J Sidewinder air-to-air missile and the AGM-12B Bullpup air-to-ground missile, making it one of the most formidable Starfighters.
General info
Flight performance
The F-104G has about 8% more engine thrust than the F-104A in exchange for slightly increased weight. The general performance has been improved but the characteristics remain similar, so anyone used to flying the F-104A will find the transition easy. As with the other Starfighters, the F-104G has great speed, acceleration, and climb rate due to its streamlined aerodynamics and powerful engine. This is achieved at the cost of low-speed handling and turning capabilities. It only turns acceptably at transonic or supersonic speeds, anything below that being far below average for a jet fighter. The stubby wings with a low aspect ratio also contribute to poor manoeuvring energy retention, so extended turning will bleed energy quickly. The roll rate is good, which helps in defensive manoeuvres.
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 15,240 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 2,341 | 2,315 | 16000 | 34.5 | 35.1 | 230.3 | 222.2 | 850 |
Upgraded | 2,433 | 2,387 | 33.5 | 34.0 | 292.1 | 260.0 |
Details
Features | |||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
X | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ |
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
1,527 | 546 | N/A | 827 | 444 | ~12 | ~5 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
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Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 720 | < 950 | < 800 | N/A |
Engine performance
Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
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Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
General Electric J79-GE-11 | 1 | 6,552 kg | 532 kg/m2 | ||||
Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
Weight (each) | Type | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 35m fuel | ||
1,615 kg | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | 7,345 kg | 8,057 kg | 8,809 kg | 9,194 kg | 24,000 kg | |
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | ||||||
Condition | 100% | WEP | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 35m fuel | MTOW |
Stationary | 4,128 kgf | 6,357 kgf | 0.87 | 0.79 | 0.72 | 0.69 | 0.26 |
Optimal | 4,128 kgf (0 km/h) |
8,391 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
1.14 | 1.04 | 0.95 | 0.91 | 0.35 |
Survivability and armour
The F-104G is not equipped with any armour plating, and is therefore rather vulnerable to enemy fire, especially given the fact that most enemies at this rank sport high-calibre cannons. Since the plane's wings are so small, any damage to them at all drastically reduces stability and manoeuvrability, and may result in a crash. All of the vehicle's fuel tanks are centrally located, so fuel fires are unlikely to occur. However, the engine is very large, so it is very likely that it will sustain heavy damage if the vehicle is fired upon.
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Ballistic Computer | |||
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CCIP (Guns) | CCIP (Rockets) | CCIP (Bombs) | CCRP (Bombs) |
Offensive armament
The F-104G (China) is armed with:
- 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, nose-mounted (750 rpg)
The M61 Vulcan is a powerful gatling cannon. A quick and accurate burst can send targets into flames and the incredible rate of fire allows for some spray-and-pray, which is especially helpful considering how difficult it can be to get guns on target in this aircraft. But it has several drawbacks: first, the gun needs to spool up momentarily before it will fire, and second, the ammunition supply of 750 rounds will be depleted in no time if fired continuously. The former makes tap firing the gun to conserve ammunition a difficult affair but the latter means that holding down the trigger is not optimal either—certainly an awkward situation! New pilots can be afford to be somewhat more trigger-happy as they get used to the gun.
Suspended armament
The F-104G (China) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | ||
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500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs | 1 | 1* | 1 | |||||
500 lb Mk 82 Snakeye bombs | 1 | 1* | 1 | |||||
750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs | 1 | 1* | 1 | |||||
1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs | 1 | 1* | 1 | |||||
BLU-1 incendiary bombs | 1 | 1* | 1 | |||||
Hydra-70 M247 rockets | 7 | 7 | ||||||
AGM-12B Bullpup missiles | 1 | 1 | ||||||
AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | 1 | 1* | 1* | 1 | ||||
AIM-9E Sidewinder missiles | 1 | 1 | ||||||
AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles | 1 | 1* | 1* | 1 | ||||
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg | ||||||||
* Ordnance on hardpoint 4 cannot be carried in conjunction with missiles on hardpoints 3/5 |
Default weapon presets | |
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As a fighter bomber variant of the F-104, the F-104G has vastly improved ordnance compared to the F-104A's measly pair of AIM-9Bs. For air-to-air combat, the best loadout consists of four AIM-9J Sidewinder missiles. The AIM-9Js have good range, target acquisition, and manoeuvrability. They can be fired from a fairly safe distance and score kills reliably, which is definitely helpful since the F-104G does not fare well in close-quarters dogfights.
For ground attack, the F-104G can carry bombs, rockets, and missiles. The largest bombload consists of three 1000 lb bombs. The only rockets it has access to are Hydra-70s with decent penetration but low explosive mass and ammo count. The real stars of the show for tank busting are the pair of AGM-12B Bullpup air-to-ground missiles. These have a warhead twice as large as the AS-20 Nords carried by the German F-104G and require less precision to score a kill. However they fly significantly slower, which can either be a good or bad quality depending on one's skill with manual guidance. Two AIM-9J Sidewinders can be carried in addition to the Bullpups to round out the loadout.
Usage in battles
The F-104G does one thing extremely well: speed. This is the vehicle's greatest advantage, and can be used to great effect if the pilot is careful about choosing which engagements to pursue. It is recommended to keep up a high air-speed at all times, which will allow the F-104G to swoop in and out of the combat zone while evading enemies. Stick to boom-and-zoom attacks and avoid charging directly into combat. Keep a safe distance from enemy fighters, as it is easy for enemies to make the F-104G overshoot or otherwise reverse it. If an enemy gets on the F-104G's tail, there is not much one can do besides accelerating away or in emergencies using the roll rate to dodge fire and enter rolling scissors. If a safe distance is maintained, it is even possible to outrun enemy air-to-air missiles.
The F-104G struggles with manoeuvrability. With such small wings, it simply can't produce the lift necessary to throw itself around the sky, and therefore has a very poor turning circle. This means that any turning engagement is most likely futile, and also re-emphasises the utility of a boom and zoom playstyle. Note that the use of flaps can significantly improve turning performance, even at high speeds, but any situation requiring hard turning is in all likelihood unfavourable to the F-104G to begin with.
This vehicle is equipped with AIM-9J air-to-air missiles, which are some of the best in the game. With the ability to mount four of them, this vehicle has the potential to do great damage to enemy targets. The F-104G can also equip a wide variety of bombs and rockets, which allows it to fulfill a ground-attack role. It is inferior to the F-104S in total bombload and rocket selection and is still oriented towards air superiority overall. In combined battles, the Bullpup AGMs are effective for destroying tanks. But a few factors dampen the F-104G's utility here: its poor handling and high speed give only a small window of time to manually guide the Bullpups, it does not perform well in hectic low-altitude dogfights. It can be used in a lineup with the ZTZ99-II and ZTZ99-III MBTs. Tankers who wish to bring in Bullpups for close air support when playing with the ZTZ96A will be better served by the F-100A.
Radars
The F-104G is equipped with a PS-03 search and tracking radar. The radar is mounted in the nose of the aircraft.
PS-03 - Target Detection Radar | |||
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Maximum Detection Range |
Guaranteed Detection Range |
Max Azimuth Scan Angle |
Max Elevation Scan Angle |
90,000 m (theoretical) |
30,000 m | ±60.0° | -30.0°/+60.0° |
PS-03 - Target Tracking Radar | |||
Maximum Tracking Range |
Minimum Tracking Range |
Azimuth Tracking Angle |
Elevation Tracking Angle |
75,000 m | 200 m | ±60.0° | -30.0°/+60.0° |
Pros and cons
- Good top speed
- Great rate of climb
- Powerful M61 cannon with high fire rate, good damage, great velocity, and plenty of rounds
- Significantly wider variety of payload options than early F-104s, including the potent AGM-12B Bullpup air-to-ground missiles
- Good roll rate
- Can carry a total of four effective AIM-9J missiles
Cons:
- Very poor overall manoeuvrability and terrible low-speed manoeuvrability
- Bleeds off airspeed quickly in sustained turns
- Lack of countermeasures is a major handicap as the IR missiles the F-104G commonly faces are extremely difficult for it to dodge without flares
History
The Lockheed F-104 Starfighter was a supersonic jet fighter known for its distinctive appearance, described as a "missile with a man in it". At the time of its introduction in 1958 with the US Air Force as an interceptor, the F-104 set multiple performance records and was the first production fighter capable of flying at twice the speed of sound. Flaws of the design included engine troubles, limited range, and poor handling characteristics that led to a poor safety record, earning it several morbid nicknames like "Widowmaker".
The F-104's involvement with the Republic of China/Taiwan began soon after it entered service with the US Air Force in 1958. The Second Taiwan Straits Crisis in the August of that year was sparked by the People's Liberation Army shelling new ROC military installations on the islands of Kinmen and the Matsu Archipelago. The USAF deployed F-104s to Taiwan and used them to perform supersonic passes into the airspace of the Straits and mainland China in order to show off the capabilities of the Mach-2 capable Starfighter and intimidate the PLAAF, which at that time was equipped with MiG-15s and MiG-17s. No actual shooting engagements occurred and the F-104s were withdrawn after a cease fire in October.
The Republic of China Air Force received its first Starfighters starting in 1960, the first batch of F-104A/Bs being from ex-USAF stock. Over the decades, subsequent batches were obtained from a wide variety of countries. The F-104G was obtained from the United States in 1964-69, from Germany in 1983, and from Denmark in 1987, totalling 99 single seaters. More than half of the total Starfighter inventory of the ROCAF consisted of the F-104G, making it the most numerically important model and also the most advanced, along with the F-104Js they had received from Japan.
In operational service, the Starfighters were used to patrol the Straits and was the ROCAF's most capable interceptor for much of the Cold War era. ROCAF F-104Gs engaged PLAAF J-6s in the airspace of Kinmen in January 1967 (the last aerial combat with the PLAAF to date) and reportedly scored two kills, though one F-104 did not return to base and may have been lost. PLAAF pilot Hu Shougen 胡寿根 claimed the victory on 4353/64-17779, while the ROCAF claimed 2 victories over J-6s from their radio surveillance. Their service was otherwise uneventful. The early Starfighter models were retired from combat roles in the 1980s and the late models continued to serve up to 1997 with upgrades to their weaponry until new fighter jets eventually replaced them in ROCAF service.
A large number of Starfighters are preserved and on display in Taiwan today. Single-seat F-104Gs can be found at Ching Chuang Kang Air Base, Kangshan Chinese Air Force Museum, Pingtung Air Base, and other locations. A full list can be found here.
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See also
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