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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] with the initial Japanese tank tree.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]] with the initial Japanese tank tree. The {{PAGENAME}} is a Naval refit of the [[Chi-Ha Kai]] with a [[Navy short gun (120 mm)]], it keeps the mobility from the [[Chi-Ha (Family)|Chi-Ha]] chassis but loses the turret rotation speed due the added weight of the gun. The {{PAGENAME}} is a later iteration of the [[Chi-Ha]] with a modified turret coming from the [[Chi-Ha Kai]] which was made to support navy infantry as a gun tank during the defense of the homeland.
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The {{PAGENAME}} is a Naval refit of the [[Chi-Ha Kai]] with a [[Navy short gun (120 mm)]], it keeps the decent mobility from the [[Chi-Ha (Family)|Chi-Ha]] chassis but loses the turret rotation speed due the added weight of the gun.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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[[File:{{PAGENAME}}_(2).png|thumb|left|300px|{{PAGENAME}} scanning the seaside]]
 
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The Type 97 [[Chi-Ha]] is an upgraded version of the earlier Type 89 [[I-Go Ko]]. The engine has been upgraded, from the Mitsubishi A6120VD air-cooled straight-six diesel with 120 hp to a Mitsubishi SA12200VD air-cooled V12 diesel with 170 hp. As such, the top speed has increased from 27 km/h on the [[I-Go Ko]] to 40 km/h on the [[Chi-Ha]].
 
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The {{PAGENAME}} is a later iteration of the [[Chi-Ha]] with a modified turret coming from the [[Chi-Ha Kai]]. For firepower the {{PAGENAME}} has a [[Navy short gun (120 mm)]] that launches 13 kg HE shells.
 
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Which was made to support navy infantry as a gun tank during the defense of the homeland.
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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Light, but effective against weaker guns (i.e. early French), weaker shells (low-calibre HE), and in long range engagements.
 
  
 
'''Armour type:'''
 
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret, cupola)
  
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*Rolled homogeneous armour
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[[File:{{PAGENAME}}_(2).png|thumb|right|300px|{{PAGENAME}} scanning the seaside]]
  
 
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!Armour!!Front!!Sides!!Rear!!Roof
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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|Hull||25 mm (11-31°) ''Front plate''
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| Hull || 25 mm (11-31°) ''Front plate'' <br> 15-17 mm (62-80°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 15 mm (37-59°) ''Lower glacis'' || 25 mm (25 / 40°) ''Top'' <br> 25 mm ''Bottom'' || 15 mm (69°) ''Top'' <br> 20 mm (5-57°) || 12 mm
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15-17 mm (62-80°) ''Front glacis''
 
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15 mm (37-59°) ''Lower glacis''
 
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32-35 mm ''Gun mantlet''
 
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*Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
 
*Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
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The Type 97 [[Chi-Ha]] is an upgraded version of the earlier Type 89 [[I-Go Ko]]. The engine has been upgraded, from the Mitsubishi A6120VD air-cooled straight-six diesel with 120 hp to a Mitsubishi SA12200VD air-cooled V12 diesel with 170 hp. As such, the top speed has increased from 27 km/h on the [[I-Go Ko]] to 40 km/h on the [[Chi-Ha]].
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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[[File:{{PAGENAME}}_(4).png|thumb|{{PAGENAME}} firing]]
 
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{{main|Navy short gun (120 mm)}}
 
{{main|Navy short gun (120 mm)}}
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The gun from the {{PAGENAME}} is naval short gun built to deal with submarines and close range naval combat, and that does translate over in-game as a gun with lackluster HE filler just enough to destroy light tanks and a very low muzzle velocity, which on the bright side can be used to shoot at vehicles over cover.
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The 120 mm Navy short gun is built to deal with submarines and close range naval combat, and that does translate over in-game as a gun with lackluster penetration on armour: it has just enough to destroy light tanks ; and a very low muzzle velocity, which on the bright side can be used to shoot at vehicles over cover.
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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[[File:{{PAGENAME}}_(5).png|thumb|left|{{PAGENAME}} coming out behind a rock]]
 
[[File:{{PAGENAME}}_(5).png|thumb|left|{{PAGENAME}} coming out behind a rock]]
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Because the {{PAGENAME}} was designed for an infantry support role, its performance shows how tank combat wasn't put in mind for the vehicle. With each shell only having 2.5 kg of explosive, this isn't enough to destroy any vehicle the shell hits; it most likely will shock the crew, but nothing else.
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Because the {{PAGENAME}} was designed for an infantry support role, its performance shows how tank combat wasn't put in mind for the vehicle. With each shell only having 2.5 kg of explosive, this isn't enough to destroy any vehicle the shell hits with certainty; it most likely will shock the crew, but nothing else.
  
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Most light armored vehicles and tanks (<30 mm armor) will be able to be destroyed from either hull break or crew knock-out wherever you hit. But when you start opposing medium to heavy tanks, you should fallback for friendlies to deal with the target. It might be possible to hit the roof of the turret or hull on these vehicles, but it's a tricky shot and won't always deal a fatal blow on first hit.{{clear}}
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Most lightly armoured vehicles and tanks (<30 mm armour) will be able to be destroyed from either hull break or crew knock-out wherever you hit. But when you start opposing medium to heavy tanks, you should fall back for friendlies to deal with the target. It might be possible to hit the roof of the turret or hull on these vehicles, but it's a tricky shot and won't always deal a fatal blow on first hit.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* Typically, if the round penetrates, it kills
 
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* Five crew members
 
* Five crew members
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* 30 mm of penetration at any range and angle
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* 31 mm of penetration at any range and angle
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Slow reload compared to {{Annotation|average size cannons|37 mm to 75 mm}}
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* Slow reload compared to cannons commonly met at this BR (37 to 75 mm)
 
* Only fires high explosive rounds
 
* Only fires high explosive rounds
 
* Poor turret traverse, just 5.1°/s
 
* Poor turret traverse, just 5.1°/s
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* Large shell drop (shells only travel 290 m/s)
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== History ==
 
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Revision as of 12:25, 28 February 2021

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
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This page is about the premium Japanese medium tank Chi-Ha Short Gun. For other versions, see Chi-Ha (Family).
Chi-Ha Short Gun
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Chi-Ha Short Gun
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Battle rating:
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Description

The Type 97 Chi-Ha Short Gun is a premium rank II Japanese medium tank with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB) and 1.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai" with the initial Japanese tank tree. The Chi-Ha Short Gun is a Naval refit of the Chi-Ha Kai with a Navy short gun (120 mm), it keeps the mobility from the Chi-Ha chassis but loses the turret rotation speed due the added weight of the gun. The Chi-Ha Short Gun is a later iteration of the Chi-Ha with a modified turret coming from the Chi-Ha Kai which was made to support navy infantry as a gun tank during the defense of the homeland.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull25 / 25 / 20
Turret32 / 25 / 25
Crew5 people
Visibility75 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret, cupola)
Chi-Ha Short Gun scanning the seaside
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 25 mm (11-31°) Front plate
15-17 mm (62-80°) Front glacis
15 mm (37-59°) Lower glacis 		25 mm (25 / 40°) Top
25 mm Bottom 		15 mm (69°) Top
20 mm (5-57°) 		12 mm
Turret 25 mm (9-10°) Turret front
32-35 mm Gun mantlet 		25 mm (9-10°) 25 mm 10 mm
Cupola 25 mm (cylindrical) 10 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB45 / 21 km/h
RB and SB40 / 19 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
2 back
Weight14.8 t
Engine power
AB324 hp
RB and SB170 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB21.9 hp/t
RB and SB11.5 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 45 21 14.8 263 324 17.77 21.89
Realistic 40 19 150 170 10.14 11.49

The Type 97 Chi-Ha is an upgraded version of the earlier Type 89 I-Go Ko. The engine has been upgraded, from the Mitsubishi A6120VD air-cooled straight-six diesel with 120 hp to a Mitsubishi SA12200VD air-cooled V12 diesel with 170 hp. As such, the top speed has increased from 27 km/h on the I-Go Ko to 40 km/h on the Chi-Ha.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB934 Sl icon.png
RB498 Sl icon.png
SB1 235 Sl icon.png
Crew training2 300 Sl icon.png
Experts15 000 Sl icon.png
Aces115 Ge icon.png
Research Aces320 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 40 / 50 / 70 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 112 / 112 / 112 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Mods tank reinforcement jp.png
Crew Replenishment
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support

Armaments

Main armament

120 mm Navy short gun
Ammunition23 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
13.0 → 10.0 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 15°
Chi-Ha Short Gun firing
Main article: Navy short gun (120 mm)

The 120 mm Navy short gun is built to deal with submarines and close range naval combat, and that does translate over in-game as a gun with lackluster penetration on armour: it has just enough to destroy light tanks ; and a very low muzzle velocity, which on the bright side can be used to shoot at vehicles over cover.

120 mm Navy short gun Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 23 -8°/+15° ±180° N/A 5.7 7.9 9.6 10.6 11.3 13.0 11.5 10.6 10.0
Realistic 3.6 4.2 5.1 5.6 6.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Short Ordinary HE HE 31 31 31 31 31 31
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Short Ordinary HE HE 290 13.0 0.1 0.1 2,640 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Chi-Ha Short Gun
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
23 18 (+5) 0 (+23) No

Note:

  • Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.


Machine guns

7.7 mm Type 97 machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition3 000 rounds
Belt capacity20 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
3.9 → 3.0 s
Fire rate499 shots/min
7.7 mm Type 97 machine gun
Ammunition1 000 rounds
Belt capacity20 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
3.9 → 3.0 s
Fire rate499 shots/min
Main article: Type 97 (7.7 mm)
7.7 mm Type 97
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Hull 3,000 (20) 499 ±10° ±15°
Pintle 1,000 (20) 499 -10°/+70° ±60°

Usage in battles

Chi-Ha Short Gun coming out behind a rock

Because the Chi-Ha Short Gun was designed for an infantry support role, its performance shows how tank combat wasn't put in mind for the vehicle. With each shell only having 2.5 kg of explosive, this isn't enough to destroy any vehicle the shell hits with certainty; it most likely will shock the crew, but nothing else.

Most lightly armoured vehicles and tanks (<30 mm armour) will be able to be destroyed from either hull break or crew knock-out wherever you hit. But when you start opposing medium to heavy tanks, you should fall back for friendlies to deal with the target. It might be possible to hit the roof of the turret or hull on these vehicles, but it's a tricky shot and won't always deal a fatal blow on first hit.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Familiar Chi-Ha chassis
  • Ten-seconds reload with a 120 mm cannon
  • Typically, if the round penetrates, it kills
  • Five crew members
  • 31 mm of penetration at any range and angle

Cons:

  • Slow reload compared to cannons commonly met at this BR (37 to 75 mm)
  • Only fires high explosive rounds
  • Poor turret traverse, just 5.1°/s
  • Very slow muzzle velocity (290 m/s) causes large shell drop

History

Main article: History of the Type 97 Chi-Ha

Development

The Chi-Ha Short Gun, designated the Short 12 cm Self-propelled artillery (短十 二糎 自走砲) was a navy refit of the Type 97 Chi-Ha Kai to make a similar gun tank as the Army's Type 2 Ho-I with greater firepower to support the Special Naval Landing Forces (SNLF).

To get greater firepower than the Type 2 Ho-I, a naval short barrel 120 mm was chosen with an additional bespoke muzzle break, the official designation of this 120 mm gun is unclear but may greatly be the 12cm/12 short naval gun. Additionally, there was a small storage compartment added onto the back of the ShinHoTo Chi-Ha turret.

Combat usage

The only certain information on this variant is that only a dozen or so vehicles were built and all were assigned to the Yokosuka No. 16 Special Land Battle Corps. The Chi-Ha's weren't the only vehicles assigned to this squadron and saw service next to the Type 2 Ka-Mi and Type 3 Ka-Chi amphibious tanks.

These vehicles would most likely have seen service in defense of the homeland next to the SNLF infantry. But in-case that these tanks would be required to move to forward islands, they would most likely be transport by Daihatsu-class Landing Craft's just like the infantry accompanied and escorted by the Amphibious tanks during landings.

There's only a handful of images of Chi-Ha 120 mm's, all being American and taken at the naval yard in Sasebo, Japan, October 1945. None of the vehicles survive today.

  • American Inspection

  • Stored Chi-Ha 12 cm's

  • Inside picture of the breech, seen from the commander's port

Media

Main article: Media of the Type 97 Chi-Ha
Skins
Images

  • Chi-Ha Short Gun coming from the sea

  • Chi-Ha Short Gun engaging an enemy

  • Chi-Ha Short Gun back view

Videos
'Most unusual vehicles discusses the Chi-Ha Short Gun at 2:15 - War Thunder Official Channel
What 120mm of Power is doing at 1.7 BR? - Chi-Ha Short Gun - HowToPlay1337
Chi-Ha Short Gun Tank Review - NUSensei

See also

Related development
Tanks of comparable role, configuration and era

External links


Japan medium tanks
Type 97  Chi-Ha · Chi-Ha Kai · Chi-Ha Kai TD · Chi-Ha Short Gun
Type 1  Chi-He · Chi-He (5th Regiment) · Ho-I
Type 3  Chi-Nu · Chi-Nu II
Type 4  Chi-To · Chi-To Late
Type 5  Chi-Ri II
Type 61 MBT  ST-A1* · ST-A2* · ST-A3* · Type 61
Type 74 MBT  ST-B2* · Type 74 (C) · Type 74 (E) · Type 74 (F) · Type 74 (G)
Type 90 MBT  Type 90 · Type 90 (B) · Type 90 (B) "Fuji"
Type 10 MBT  TKX (P)* · TKX* · Type 10
Other  Ka-Chi
USA  ▅M4A3 (76) W · ▅M47
  *Prototype

Japan premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  Ha-Go Commander · Type 16 (FPS)
Medium tanks  Chi-Ha Short Gun · Chi-He (5th Regiment) · Ka-Chi · Chi-Nu II · Type 74 (G) · Type 90 (B) "Fuji"
Heavy tanks  Ro-Go · ▅Heavy Tank No.6
Tank destroyers  Ho-Ri Prototype · Type 75 MLRS

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