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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | The | + | The Toldi IIA is a Hungarian light tank of World War II developed from the Toldi II in order to up-gun it. 80 Toldi IIs were modified into Toldi IIAs sporting 40 mm 37/42M guns, and these served on the Eastern Front fighting Soviet forces. The original Toldi I was developed from the Landsverk L-60 family, and the Toldi II was an improved variant of the Toldi I, with better armour, which the Toldi IIA retains. This allows the Toldi IIA to stand its ground, but it shares some of the same weaknesses as its Swedish counterpart. |
| − | The | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Hungarian light tank {{Battle-rating}} in the Italian tech tree. It was introduced during [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]] as a reward for [[Battle Pass: Season III, "Strength athletics"]]. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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| − | The hull of the Toldi IIA is practically identical to the [[strv m/40L]] | + | The hull of the Toldi IIA is practically identical to that of the [[strv m/40L]]. It is a very resistant hull at this battle rating, able to bounce back several rounds if angled correctly. In terms of survivability, this vehicle does not perform well: ammo racks are positioned on the sides of the hull, which is a benefit against frontal shots but a disadvantage against side shots. The crew compartment is tight, a well-aimed shot in the center of the vehicle will knock it right out. |
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| − | The main armament of the Toldi IIA is a 40 mm 37/ | + | The main armament of the Toldi IIA is a 40 mm 37/42M cannon that can fire 3 different types of projectiles, HE, APHEBC, APBC. It is recommended to use the 43M APBC shell as it is the most powerful: at its battle rating it is an excellent shell. |
==== Ammunition ==== | ==== Ammunition ==== | ||
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{{main|34/40M (8 mm)}} | {{main|34/40M (8 mm)}} | ||
| − | The Toldi IIA has a coaxial 8 mm 34/40M machine gun, excellent for eliminating the crew of open-topped vehicles such as SPAAs and SPGs. However, it | + | The Toldi IIA has a coaxial 8 mm 34/40M machine gun, excellent for eliminating the crew of open-topped vehicles such as SPAAs and SPGs. However, it should not be used against more armoured tanks as it won't penetrate them. |
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=== Devblog === | === Devblog === | ||
| − | [[File:Toldi IIa (3).png|thumb|Toldi | + | [[File:Toldi IIa (3).png|thumb|Toldi IIA, lateral photo]] |
| − | [[File:Toldi IIa (2).png|thumb|Toldi | + | [[File:Toldi IIa (2).png|thumb|Toldi IIA, frontal photo]] |
| − | After defeat in World War I, Hungary, like Germany, was prohibited from having its own army and armoured vehicles. However, like Germany, this ban didn't hold Hungary back for long. After purchasing small batches of Italian and German tanks, the Hungarian government announced its intention to select a foreign tank design to be deployed at domestic facilities. As a result of tests, preference was given to the Swedish light tank Landsverk L-60, which later entered service with Sweden under the designation Strv m/38. The tank was adapted to the types of guns and sights available to Hungary, the turret was slightly modified and launched into series under the name 38.M Toldi. The first series of Hungarian light tanks, built before April 1940, actively participated in combat - including heavy battles on the Eastern Front, where it showed itself completely indefensible against Soviet medium and heavy armoured vehicles. After two modernizations, the protection on the gun mantlet and the frontal projection of the hull was strengthened, and the | + | After defeat in World War I, Hungary, like Germany, was prohibited from having its own army and armoured vehicles. However, like Germany, this ban didn't hold Hungary back for long. After purchasing small batches of Italian and German tanks, the Hungarian government announced its intention to select a foreign tank design to be deployed at domestic facilities. As a result of tests, preference was given to the Swedish light tank Landsverk L-60, which later entered service with Sweden under the designation Strv m/38. The tank was adapted to the types of guns and sights available to Hungary, the turret was slightly modified and launched into series under the name 38.M Toldi. The first series of Hungarian light tanks, built before April 1940, actively participated in combat - including heavy battles on the Eastern Front, where it showed itself completely indefensible against Soviet medium and heavy armoured vehicles. After two modernizations, the protection on the gun mantlet and the frontal projection of the hull was strengthened, and the 40 mm cannon became the main weapon. Now the tank was completely produced from Hungarian components, but with the increased protection and increased calibre, the weight of the vehicle also increased, which subsequently affected its movement performance. Despite all efforts, the upgraded 38.M Toldi II and IIA tanks could no longer compete with the Soviet tanks of the second half of the war. Almost all tanks in the series were lost in battles or by technical failures, the last Toldis were destroyed in the battles for Budapest. The only surviving Toldi IIA tank is currently on display in the Patriot park near Kubinka, Moscow region. |
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_toldi_II_a Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_toldi_II_a Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | ||
| − | ;Related development | + | ;Related development/Similar vehicles |
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* [[Strv m/38]] | * [[Strv m/38]] | ||
* [[Strv m/39]] | * [[Strv m/39]] | ||
* [[Strv m/40L]] | * [[Strv m/40L]] | ||
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| + | Other Hungarian vehicles | ||
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| + | * [[Csaba]] | ||
| + | * [[Turan I|Turán I]] | ||
| + | * [[Turan II|Turán II]] | ||
| + | * [[Turan III|Turán III]] | ||
| + | * [[Zrinyi I|Zrínyi I]] | ||
| + | * [[Zrinyi II|Zrínyi II]] | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
Revision as of 02:24, 26 September 2023
Contents
Description
The Toldi IIA is a Hungarian light tank of World War II developed from the Toldi II in order to up-gun it. 80 Toldi IIs were modified into Toldi IIAs sporting 40 mm 37/42M guns, and these served on the Eastern Front fighting Soviet forces. The original Toldi I was developed from the Landsverk L-60 family, and the Toldi II was an improved variant of the Toldi I, with better armour, which the Toldi IIA retains. This allows the Toldi IIA to stand its ground, but it shares some of the same weaknesses as its Swedish counterpart.
The Toldi IIA is a premium gift rank I Hungarian light tank with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB) in the Italian tech tree. It was introduced during Update "Ixwa Strike" as a reward for Battle Pass: Season III, "Strength athletics".
General info
Survivability and armour
The hull of the Toldi IIA is practically identical to that of the strv m/40L. It is a very resistant hull at this battle rating, able to bounce back several rounds if angled correctly. In terms of survivability, this vehicle does not perform well: ammo racks are positioned on the sides of the hull, which is a benefit against frontal shots but a disadvantage against side shots. The crew compartment is tight, a well-aimed shot in the center of the vehicle will knock it right out.
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armour
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | 20 mm (56°) Upper glacis 13 mm (46°) Lower glacis 23 mm (25°) Upper plate 23 mm (13-19°) Driver bulge |
13 mm (15°) | 9 mm (19°) Top 9 mm (28°) Bottom |
5 mm |
| Turret | 13 mm (14°) Turret front 33 mm (2°) Gun mantlet |
13 mm (15°) | 13 mm (17-25°) | 7 mm |
| Cupola | 13 mm (13°) | 13 mm (10-15°) | 13 mm (17°) | 5 mm |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels, tracks and torsion bars are 15 mm thick.
Mobility
The Büssing NAG L8V/36TR is an engine capable of delivering 155 horsepower and manages to take the Toldi IIA to a top speed of 47 km/h. Unfortunately, the reverse is not as good, at only -5 km/h. This engine manages to make the Toldi IIa maintain a constant speed of at least 35 km/h on any terrain. The chassis is great for driving on all types of terrain that can be found in the game: sand, snow, mud and dirt.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 52 | 7 | 9.3 | 240 | 296 | 25.81 | 31.83 |
| Realistic | 47 | 6 | 137 | 155 | 14.73 | 16.67 | |
Modifications and economy
2 × 20 / 20 / 30 % 2 × 100 / 100 / 100 % | Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Main armament
| 40 mm 37/42M | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 55 | -10°/+20° | ±180° | N/A | 15.2 | 21.1 | 25.6 | 28.3 | 30.1 | 3.64 | 3.22 | 2.97 | 2.80 |
| Realistic | 9.5 | 11.2 | 13.6 | 15.0 | 16.0 | ||||||||
The main armament of the Toldi IIA is a 40 mm 37/42M cannon that can fire 3 different types of projectiles, HE, APHEBC, APBC. It is recommended to use the 43M APBC shell as it is the most powerful: at its battle rating it is an excellent shell.
Ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| 36M | APHEBC | 62 | 60 | 51 | 42 | 34 | 28 |
| 39M | HE | 8 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 |
| 43M | APBC | 72 | 69 | 60 | 50 | 42 | 35 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| 36M | APHEBC | 800 | 0.97 | 1.2 | 9 | 17 | 48° | 63° | 71° | |||
| 39M | HE | 800 | 0.97 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 63 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| 43M | APBC | 800 | 1.05 | - | - | - | 47° | 60° | 65° | |||
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 55 | 36 (+19) | 31 (+24) | 21 (+34) | 11 (+44) | 1 (+54) | No |
Note:
- As they are modeled by sets of 3 to 5, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired all shells in the set.
Machine guns
The Toldi IIA has a coaxial 8 mm 34/40M machine gun, excellent for eliminating the crew of open-topped vehicles such as SPAAs and SPGs. However, it should not be used against more armoured tanks as it won't penetrate them.
| 8 mm 34/40M | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| Coaxial | 3,200 (100) | 900 | N/A | N/A |
Usage in battles
The Toldi IIA is a very versatile light tank good for any situation on the battlefield. With its good speed, it can change positions effectively and quickly and with its decent mobility, it can afford to go and capture points first. With the limited protection of Toldi IIA, it is recommended to adopt a playstyle more focused on spotting enemies and supporting fire for allies. But for more dynamic players, it can be used as a frontline vehicle to capture the points in the first line and help the advance of allies.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Very short reload
- Shells have effective penetration
- Good armour
- Good mobility and handling
Cons:
- Shells may struggle against heavily-armoured tanks
- Flat upper front armour plates are noticeable weak points
History
Devblog
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After defeat in World War I, Hungary, like Germany, was prohibited from having its own army and armoured vehicles. However, like Germany, this ban didn't hold Hungary back for long. After purchasing small batches of Italian and German tanks, the Hungarian government announced its intention to select a foreign tank design to be deployed at domestic facilities. As a result of tests, preference was given to the Swedish light tank Landsverk L-60, which later entered service with Sweden under the designation Strv m/38. The tank was adapted to the types of guns and sights available to Hungary, the turret was slightly modified and launched into series under the name 38.M Toldi. The first series of Hungarian light tanks, built before April 1940, actively participated in combat - including heavy battles on the Eastern Front, where it showed itself completely indefensible against Soviet medium and heavy armoured vehicles. After two modernizations, the protection on the gun mantlet and the frontal projection of the hull was strengthened, and the 40 mm cannon became the main weapon. Now the tank was completely produced from Hungarian components, but with the increased protection and increased calibre, the weight of the vehicle also increased, which subsequently affected its movement performance. Despite all efforts, the upgraded 38.M Toldi II and IIA tanks could no longer compete with the Soviet tanks of the second half of the war. Almost all tanks in the series were lost in battles or by technical failures, the last Toldis were destroyed in the battles for Budapest. The only surviving Toldi IIA tank is currently on display in the Patriot park near Kubinka, Moscow region.
Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
- Related development/Similar vehicles
Other Hungarian vehicles
External links
| Italy light tanks | |
|---|---|
| Italy | |
| L6/40 | L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.) |
| M11/39 | M11/39 |
| Autoblindo | AB 41 · AB 43 |
| Fiat 6614/6616 | FIAT 6614 · AUBL/74 · AUBL/74 HVG |
| R3 Capraia | R3 T106 FA |
| Centauro | Centauro I 105 · Centauro I 105 R · Centauro I 120 · Centauro RGO · VRCC |
| Freccia | VBC (PT2) · Freccia |
| Dardo | Dardo · VCC-80/60 · VCC-80/30 |
| Other | C13 T90 |
| USA | ▄M3A3 · ▄M24 · ▄M18 |
| Hungary | |
| WWII | Csaba · Toldi IIA |
| Post | ◔BTR-80A · KF41 |
| Italy premium ground vehicles | |
|---|---|
| Light tanks | L6/40 (31 Rgt.) · Toldi IIA · AUBL/74 HVG · VRCC · Centauro RGO |
| Medium tanks | M13/40 (II) · Turan II · M14/41 (47/40) · Celere Sahariano · P40 "G.C. Leoncello" · ▄Sherman I Composito · ▄Pz.IV G |
| M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete" · OF-40 (MTCA) | |
| Heavy tanks | Tigris |
| Tank destroyers | Breda 90/53 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · Zrinyi I |
