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| − | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. It is a Polish built MiG-17PF | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. It is a Polish built MiG-17PF in East-German service. |
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! Upgraded | ! Upgraded | ||
| − | | | + | | 1,126 || 1,114 || 21.2 || 21.5 || 61.9 || 50.0 |
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute | ! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute | ||
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ||
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| − | | {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || | + | | {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 598 || 450 || ~12 || ~5 |
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator | ! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator | ||
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| − | | < | + | | < 600 || < 700 || < 750 || N/A |
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel) | ! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||
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| − | | colspan="2" | | + | | colspan="2" | Klimov VK-1 || 1 |
| − | | colspan="2" | | + | | colspan="2" | 4,112 kg || colspan="2" | 234 kg/m<sup>2</sup> |
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics | ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics | ||
| − | ! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max | + | ! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | {{Annotation|Max Gross<br>Weight|Mass of the fully equipped aircraft with heaviest weapons load}} |
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type | ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type | ||
| − | ! | + | ! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel |
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| − | | | + | | 892 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning centrifugal-flow turbojet |
| − | | | + | | 4,463 kg || 4,887 kg || 5,283 kg || 5,336 kg |
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ||
| − | ! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m ( | + | ! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) |
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| − | ! Condition || 100% || | + | ! Condition || 100% || WEP |
| − | ! | + | ! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || MGW |
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| − | | ''Stationary'' || | + | | ''Stationary'' || 2,380 kgf || 2,932 kgf |
| − | | | + | | 0.66 || 0.60 || 0.55 || 0.55 |
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| − | | ''Optimal'' || | + | | ''Optimal'' || 2,380 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || 2,932 kgf<br>(0 km/h) |
| − | | | + | | 0.66 || 0.60 || 0.55 || 0.55 |
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | * Very good | + | * Very good acceleration due to the afterburner |
* Above average top speed and climb rate | * Above average top speed and climb rate | ||
* Turn rate is better than most enemies it faces | * Turn rate is better than most enemies it faces | ||
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* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' | ||
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{{Germany jet aircraft}} | {{Germany jet aircraft}} | ||
Revision as of 13:52, 24 June 2022
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Contents
Description
The ◊Lim-5P is a rank VI German jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/SB) and 8.7 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Danger Zone". It is a Polish built MiG-17PF in East-German service.
General info
Flight performance
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 2 000 m1 114 km/h
Turn time21 s
Max altitude15 500 m
EngineKlimov VK-1
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight5 t
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 2,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 1,101 | 1,094 | 15500 | 21.8 | 23.0 | 39.1 | 36.1 | 475 |
| Upgraded | 1,126 | 1,114 | 21.2 | 21.5 | 61.9 | 50.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| X | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 0 | 450 | N/A | 598 | 450 | ~12 | ~5 |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 600 | < 700 | < 750 | N/A |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | |||
| Klimov VK-1 | 1 | 4,112 kg | 234 kg/m2 | |||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Gross Weight | ||||
| Weight (each) | Type | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | ||
| 892 kg | Afterburning centrifugal-flow turbojet | 4,463 kg | 4,887 kg | 5,283 kg | 5,336 kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | |||||
| Condition | 100% | WEP | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | MGW |
| Stationary | 2,380 kgf | 2,932 kgf | 0.66 | 0.60 | 0.55 | 0.55 |
| Optimal | 2,380 kgf (0 km/h) |
2,932 kgf (0 km/h) |
0.66 | 0.60 | 0.55 | 0.55 |
Survivability and armour
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear450 km/h
Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.
Modifications and economy
Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 079 → 4 439 
RB8 783 → 12 665
SB9 576 → 13 808
Total cost of modifications144 200 
229 000
Talisman cost2 400 
Crew training130 000
Experts450 000
Aces2 200
Research Aces890 000
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 %
214 / 214 / 214 %
| Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | ||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Offensive armament
The Lim-5P (Germany) is armed with:
- 3 x 23 mm NR-23 cannons, chin-mounted (100 rpg = 300 total)
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Very good acceleration due to the afterburner
- Above average top speed and climb rate
- Turn rate is better than most enemies it faces
- More ammo for cannons compared to MiG-15s/17s
Cons:
- Rather bad roll rate at high speeds
- Compresses at high speeds
- Cannons are difficult to aim
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
- Related development
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
| PZL Mielec (Polskie Zakłady Lotnicze) | |
|---|---|
| Jet Fighters | ◊Lim-5P |
| See also | Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau |
| Germany jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
|
Luftwaffe |
| He 162 | He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2 |
| Me 163 | Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0 |
| Ho 229 | Ho 229 V3 |
| Ar 234 | Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3 |
| Me 262 | Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a |
| Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b | |
|
LSK |
| Fighters | ◊MiG-15bis · ◊Lim-5P · ◊MiG-19S |
| ◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M" | |
| ◊MiG-29 | |
| Attackers | ◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA |
| ◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4 | |
| ◊IL-28 | |
|
Luftwaffe |
| F-84 | ◄F-84F |
| F-86 | ◄CL-13A Mk 5 · ◄CL-13B Mk.6 · ◄F-86K |
| F-104 | ◄F-104G |
| F-4 | ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV |
| G.91 | ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4 |
| Tornado | ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 · ◄Tornado IDS MFG · ◄Tornado IDS ASSTA1 |
| Other | Alpha Jet A · ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100 |
| Ex-LSK | ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◄MiG-29G · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61 |
|
Swiss Air Force |
| ◌Hunter F.58 · FFA P-16 | |
