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{{Specs-Card|code=it_semovente_m43_105}}
 
 
{{About
 
{{About
 
| about = Italian tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
| about = Italian tank destroyer '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
| usage = premium version
 
| usage = premium version
 
| link = 105/25 M43 "G.C.Leoncello"
 
| link = 105/25 M43 "G.C.Leoncello"
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|code=it_semovente_m43_105
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|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_105_25_M43.jpg|ArtImage_105-25_M43.png}}
 
}}
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage 105 25 M43.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. This vehicle was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].  
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
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'''Armour type:'''
  
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, casemate)
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* Cast homogeneous armour (gun mantlet)
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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| Hull || 25 mm (78°) ''Upper glacis'' <br> 50 mm (40°) ''Lower glacis - top'' <br> 30 mm (50°) ''Lower glacis - bottom'' || 40 mm  <br> 40 + 4 mm ''Side skirts area'' || 25 mm ''Upper part'' <br> 25 mm (15°) ''Lower part'' || 25 mm (12°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 10-15 mm (12°) ''Rear - Engine hood'' <br> 5-15 mm (5°) ''Rear - Radiator vents''
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| Casemate || 75 mm (5°) ''Casemate front plate'' <br> 90 mm (5°) ''Driver port'' <br> 60 + 30 mm (spherical) ''Gun mantlet'' || 45 mm (7-9°) || 45 mm || 15 mm (0-4°) ''Centre'' <br> 15 mm (18°) ''Sides''
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|-
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|}
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'''Notes:'''
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* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
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* The belly is 15 mm thick.
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* Mudguards are 4 mm thick.
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The {{PAGENAME}} got rid of the biggest vulnerabilities of the previous Semoventi: the vertical armour front plate is now much thicker, the sides were reinforced and the crew is less cramped thanks to the widened hull. However, the poor roof armour and a crew of only 3 are still weak points. Your front plate is also now wider and easier to target. With the BR increase, foes are also better armoured, which slightly tones down the benefit brought by your armour increase.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=263|rbMinHp=164}}
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{Specs-Economy}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)}}
 
{{main|Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)}}
  
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
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! colspan="6" | [[Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)|105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25]]
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! colspan="5" | [[Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)|105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
 
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| colspan="3" | 48 || -10°/+16° || ±18° || N/A
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! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 48 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+16° || rowspan="2" | ±18° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 12.3 || 17.1 || 20.7 || 22.9 || 24.4 || rowspan="2" | 13.00 || rowspan="2" | 11.50 || rowspan="2" | 10.60 || rowspan="2" | 10.00
 
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! ''Realistic''
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| 8.3 || 9.8 || 11.9 || 13.2 || 14.0
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
 
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! style="width:4em" |Stock
 
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! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
 
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|-
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
 
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| 13.0 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
 
 
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===== Ammunition =====
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==== Ammunition ====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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* '''Granata Perforante da 105''': a capped armour-piercing shell with explosive filler that has a good penetration power and whose explosive filler offers a good single-shot knock-out capability.
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* '''Effetto Pronto mod.43''': a shaped charge with high penetration power that does not diminish over distance. This type of shell is very effective on open and lightly armoured vehicles. It will also penetrate thicker armour, provided it is not sloped  and will in most cases require a second shot to finish the enemy vehicle. The long reload time of the gun will be a clear handicap in such cases as the enemy will have time to return fire. Always pack a few HEAT shells as you lack HE shells and a machine gun to deal with lightly armoured vehicles.
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Both shells have slow muzzle velocity and will have a curved trajectory. Use this to hit enemies hiding behind a ridge.
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{{:Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)/Ammunition|Granata Perforante da 105, Effetto Pronto mod.43}}
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[[File:Ammoracks 105-25 M43.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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! 10m
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| '''48''' || 25&nbsp;''(+23)'' || 13&nbsp;''(+35)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+47)'' || No
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! 100m
 
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! 500m
 
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! 1000m
 
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! 1500m
 
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! 2000m
 
 
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| Granata Perforante da 105 || APC || 90 || 88 || 80 || 71 || 63 || 56
 
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| Effeto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120
 
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
 
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''in m:''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
 
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''in mm:''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
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! 0%
 
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! 50%
 
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! 100%
 
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| Granata Perforante da 105 || APC || 500 || 16 || 0.8 || 28 || 275 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| Effeto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 510 || 14 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 1.8 || ° || 62° || 69° || 73°
 
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===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
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|| '''48''' || XX&nbsp;''(+XX)'' || XX&nbsp;''(+XX)'' || XX&nbsp;''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The {{PAGENAME}} is best when used as a tank destroyer thanks to its good frontal armour and the good penetration of its rounds, provided you stay at a distance guaranteeing your survivability (800-1,000 m). With a maximum penetration of 72 mm at 1,000 m for the APC round and 120 mm for the HEAT shell, the vehicle will have no problem penetrating the armour of most enemy vehicles at the BR. However, the low-velocity 105 mm howitzer makes it difficult to target and hit reliably enemies at long range and the long reload time prevents you from coming quickly with another shot.
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If you play too close to the frontline, most tanks will be capable of disabling you. Your weak sides will be exposed if you are taken in a pincer move and your long reload time will give enemies the opportunity to get to a better shooting spot or to close the gap between their location and yours.
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;Notable enemies:
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* Tank destroyers with long guns that can penetrate from long range like the Marder III, the Marder III H, the Gun Carrier (3-in), the Archer, the StuG III F, the SU-57B, the YaG-10 (29-K), the Chi-Ha LG or the Na-To,
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* Tanks with powerful HEAT shells like the M4A3 (105), the Pz.III N, the StuH 42 G, the M4A3 (105) (France) or the Sav m/43 (1946),
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* Tanks with APDS shells like the Lago I,
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* Frontline tanks with sloped armour like the M4A1, the T-50, the T-126 or the T-34 (1940) or the M4A1 (France),
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* Fast and agile light tanks such as the M24, the Sd.Kfz. 234/2 or the Crusader III that can easily flank the Semovente undetected are dangerous threats. Their speed and small size make them difficult to target for the Semovente's howitzer and they can disable you easily at close range.
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* Avoid any frontal encounter. Flank it and aim for the sides of the casemate.
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* Wait for it to have shot and be reloading (it gives you at least 10 seconds to act).
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* If you're forced to engage the Semovente frontally, be as close as possible to increase your chances to penetrate.
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* If you can't disable it in one shot, immobilizing the {{PAGENAME}} buys you time to finish it off. Either shoot the transmission, the driver or the engine to do so. Stay out or get out of its line of fire once it is immobilized.
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* When flying an aircraft, target the crew compartment to knock the crew out or the engine bay to immobilize it.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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== History ==
 
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In mid-1942, the Italian Army put out a set of requirements for a new vehicle that could double up as both an infantry support vehicle as well as a tank destroyer, depending on the situation. In response to this, Fiat-Ansaldo and OTO both began developing prototypes around these requirements in parallel.
 
In mid-1942, the Italian Army put out a set of requirements for a new vehicle that could double up as both an infantry support vehicle as well as a tank destroyer, depending on the situation. In response to this, Fiat-Ansaldo and OTO both began developing prototypes around these requirements in parallel.
  
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This decision allowed Fiat-Ansaldo to complete their prototype much sooner. In February 1943, the Semovente 105/25 M43 was presented to military officials and was soon afterwards ordered into production, following successful trials.
 
This decision allowed Fiat-Ansaldo to complete their prototype much sooner. In February 1943, the Semovente 105/25 M43 was presented to military officials and was soon afterwards ordered into production, following successful trials.
  
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Production began in April 1943, with a planned production run of over 800 vehicles. However, with Italy’s industry at this late stage of the war being severely crippled, production was slow and reaching such high production goals was more than unlikely.
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Production began in April 1943, with a planned production run of over 800 vehicles. However, with Italy's industry at this late stage of the war being severely crippled, production was slow and reaching such high production goals was more than unlikely.
  
 
Just prior to the signing of the armistice in September, the 30th vehicle rolled off the assembly line. The Semovente 105/25 M43 proved itself in combat during the defence of Rome, where the SPGs successfully engaged German forces trying to retake the city.
 
Just prior to the signing of the armistice in September, the 30th vehicle rolled off the assembly line. The Semovente 105/25 M43 proved itself in combat during the defence of Rome, where the SPGs successfully engaged German forces trying to retake the city.
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Around 120 Semovente 105/25 M43s were built by 1944, primarily serving with Italian or German forces. By the late stages of the war, only a limited number was still in service and after the end of WW2, the vehicle was retired from service.
 
Around 120 Semovente 105/25 M43s were built by 1944, primarily serving with Italian or German forces. By the late stages of the war, only a limited number was still in service and after the end of WW2, the vehicle was retired from service.
  
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''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en Devblog]''
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''- From [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|Devblog]]''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m43_105 105/25 M43] in Warthunder Live.
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{{Youtube-gallery|E36dhUguPuI|'''The Shooting Range #125''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 05:10 discusses the 105/25 M43.}}
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{{Youtube-gallery|XaAoVNz0SbI|'''Semovente da {{PAGENAME}}, Italian, Tier-3, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|gq8xrhp2MDs|'''The Shooting Range #127''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:32 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.|E36dhUguPuI|'''The Shooting Range #125''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 05:10 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
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* [[75/34 M43]]
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* [[M43 "G.C.Leoncello"]]
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* [[75/46 M43]]
  
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* [[StuH 42 G]]
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* [[Sav m/43 (1946)]]
  
 
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Semovente 105/25 M43: Low Profile, High Power]
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* [[wt:en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en|[Devblog] Semovente 105/25 M43: Low Profile, High Power]]
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* [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_105/25|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Semovente da 105/25]]
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* [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_105/25|[Wikipedia] Semovente da 105/25]]
  
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{{TankManufacturer FIAT-Ansaldo}}
 
{{Italy tank destroyers}}
 
{{Italy tank destroyers}}

Latest revision as of 20:26, 24 January 2023

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
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This page is about the Italian tank destroyer 105/25 M43. For premium version, see 105/25 M43 "G.C.Leoncello".
105/25 M43
it_semovente_m43_105.png
GarageImage 105 25 M43.jpg
ArtImage 105-25 M43.png
105/25 M43
Italy flag.png Italy
II Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
3.0 3.0 3.0
Class:
Research:11 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:22 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The Semovente 105/25 M43 is a rank II Italian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull50 / 40 / 25
Turret75 / 45 / 45
Crew3 people
Visibility61 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, casemate)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (gun mantlet)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 25 mm (78°) Upper glacis
50 mm (40°) Lower glacis - top
30 mm (50°) Lower glacis - bottom 		40 mm
40 + 4 mm Side skirts area 		25 mm Upper part
25 mm (15°) Lower part 		25 mm (12°) Front glacis
10-15 mm (12°) Rear - Engine hood
5-15 mm (5°) Rear - Radiator vents
Casemate 75 mm (5°) Casemate front plate
90 mm (5°) Driver port
60 + 30 mm (spherical) Gun mantlet 		45 mm (7-9°) 45 mm 15 mm (0-4°) Centre
15 mm (18°) Sides

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
  • The belly is 15 mm thick.
  • Mudguards are 4 mm thick.

The 105/25 M43 got rid of the biggest vulnerabilities of the previous Semoventi: the vertical armour front plate is now much thicker, the sides were reinforced and the crew is less cramped thanks to the widened hull. However, the poor roof armour and a crew of only 3 are still weak points. Your front plate is also now wider and easier to target. With the BR increase, foes are also better armoured, which slightly tones down the benefit brought by your armour increase.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB42 / 4 km/h
RB and SB39 / 4 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight15.7 t
Engine power
AB353 hp
RB and SB185 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB22.5 hp/t
RB and SB11.8 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 42 4 15.7 263 353 16.75 22.48
Realistic 39 4 164 185 10.45 11.78

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB743 → 964 Sl icon.png
RB847 → 1 099 Sl icon.png
SB1 012 → 1 313 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications10 420 Rp icon.png
13 670 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost750 Ge icon.png
Crew training6 300 Sl icon.png
Experts22 000 Sl icon.png
Aces210 Ge icon.png
Research Aces220 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
50 / 80 / 100 % Sl icon.png
124 / 124 / 124 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
690 Rp icon.png
Cost:
910 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
470 Rp icon.png
Cost:
620 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
470 Rp icon.png
Cost:
620 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
650 Rp icon.png
Cost:
860 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
1 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 200 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
690 Rp icon.png
Cost:
910 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
470 Rp icon.png
Cost:
620 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement it.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
650 Rp icon.png
Cost:
860 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
690 Rp icon.png
Cost:
910 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
470 Rp icon.png
Cost:
620 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
105mm_ep_m43_HEAT_ammo_pack
Research:
470 Rp icon.png
Cost:
620 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
650 Rp icon.png
Cost:
860 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
650 Rp icon.png
Cost:
860 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 cannon
Ammunition48 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
13.0 → 10.0 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 16°
Horizontal guidance-18° / 18°
Main article: Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)
105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 48 -10°/+16° ±18° N/A 12.3 17.1 20.7 22.9 24.4 13.00 11.50 10.60 10.00
Realistic 8.3 9.8 11.9 13.2 14.0

Ammunition

The ammunition choice for the 105/25 M43 is focused on the anti-tank role:

  • Granata Perforante da 105: a capped armour-piercing shell with explosive filler that has a good penetration power and whose explosive filler offers a good single-shot knock-out capability.
  • Effetto Pronto mod.43: a shaped charge with high penetration power that does not diminish over distance. This type of shell is very effective on open and lightly armoured vehicles. It will also penetrate thicker armour, provided it is not sloped and will in most cases require a second shot to finish the enemy vehicle. The long reload time of the gun will be a clear handicap in such cases as the enemy will have time to return fire. Always pack a few HEAT shells as you lack HE shells and a machine gun to deal with lightly armoured vehicles.

Both shells have slow muzzle velocity and will have a curved trajectory. Use this to hit enemies hiding behind a ridge.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Granata Perforante da 105 APC 91 89 81 72 64 57
Effetto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 120 120 120 120 120 120
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante da 105 APC 500 15.65 1.2 19 275 48° 63° 71°
Effetto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 510 14 0.05 0.1 2,300 62° 69° 73°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the 105/25 M43
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
48 25 (+23) 13 (+35) 1 (+47) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.

Usage in battles

Combat tactics

The 105/25 M43 is best when used as a tank destroyer thanks to its good frontal armour and the good penetration of its rounds, provided you stay at a distance guaranteeing your survivability (800-1,000 m). With a maximum penetration of 72 mm at 1,000 m for the APC round and 120 mm for the HEAT shell, the vehicle will have no problem penetrating the armour of most enemy vehicles at the BR. However, the low-velocity 105 mm howitzer makes it difficult to target and hit reliably enemies at long range and the long reload time prevents you from coming quickly with another shot.

If you play too close to the frontline, most tanks will be capable of disabling you. Your weak sides will be exposed if you are taken in a pincer move and your long reload time will give enemies the opportunity to get to a better shooting spot or to close the gap between their location and yours.

Notable enemies
  • Tank destroyers with long guns that can penetrate from long range like the Marder III, the Marder III H, the Gun Carrier (3-in), the Archer, the StuG III F, the SU-57B, the YaG-10 (29-K), the Chi-Ha LG or the Na-To,
  • Tanks with powerful HEAT shells like the M4A3 (105), the Pz.III N, the StuH 42 G, the M4A3 (105) (France) or the Sav m/43 (1946),
  • Tanks with APDS shells like the Lago I,
  • Frontline tanks with sloped armour like the M4A1, the T-50, the T-126 or the T-34 (1940) or the M4A1 (France),
  • Fast and agile light tanks such as the M24, the Sd.Kfz. 234/2 or the Crusader III that can easily flank the Semovente undetected are dangerous threats. Their speed and small size make them difficult to target for the Semovente's howitzer and they can disable you easily at close range.
How to defeat a 105/25 M43
  • Avoid any frontal encounter. Flank it and aim for the sides of the casemate.
  • Wait for it to have shot and be reloading (it gives you at least 10 seconds to act).
  • If you're forced to engage the Semovente frontally, be as close as possible to increase your chances to penetrate.
  • If you can't disable it in one shot, immobilizing the 105/25 M43 buys you time to finish it off. Either shoot the transmission, the driver or the engine to do so. Stay out or get out of its line of fire once it is immobilized.
  • When flying an aircraft, target the crew compartment to knock the crew out or the engine bay to immobilize it.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Hard-hitting 105 mm gun
  • Small profile = harder for enemies to spot
  • Has access to HEAT rounds
  • Respectable frontal armour
  • Decent mobility overall
  • Decent gun depression of -10 degrees

Cons:

  • As with all casemate tank destroyers, it is vulnerable to getting flanked
  • No machine gun
  • Somewhat long reload, can be drastically increased if a crew member gets knocked out
  • Only 3 crew members
  • Can be vulnerable to planes strafing from above
  • No HE rounds to deal with lightly armoured vehicles

History

In mid-1942, the Italian Army put out a set of requirements for a new vehicle that could double up as both an infantry support vehicle as well as a tank destroyer, depending on the situation. In response to this, Fiat-Ansaldo and OTO both began developing prototypes around these requirements in parallel.

The two competing designs primarily differed in the chassis choice. OTO picked the newer chassis of the P40 heavy tank whilst Fiat-Ansaldo chose to opt for a newer and larger version of the chassis already in production for their Semovente M42.

This decision allowed Fiat-Ansaldo to complete their prototype much sooner. In February 1943, the Semovente 105/25 M43 was presented to military officials and was soon afterwards ordered into production, following successful trials.

Production began in April 1943, with a planned production run of over 800 vehicles. However, with Italy's industry at this late stage of the war being severely crippled, production was slow and reaching such high production goals was more than unlikely.

Just prior to the signing of the armistice in September, the 30th vehicle rolled off the assembly line. The Semovente 105/25 M43 proved itself in combat during the defence of Rome, where the SPGs successfully engaged German forces trying to retake the city.

After the occupation of northern Italy by German forces, the Fiat-Ansaldo company restarted production of the Semovente 105/25, this time however, for the Germans. Germany only used a limited number of these vehicles under the designation Sturmgeschütz M43 mit 105/25 853(i), of which most were no longer in use by late 1944.

Around 120 Semovente 105/25 M43s were built by 1944, primarily serving with Italian or German forces. By the late stages of the war, only a limited number was still in service and after the end of WW2, the vehicle was retired from service.

- From Devblog

Media

Skins
Videos
Semovente da 105/25 M43, Italian, Tier-3, Tank Destroyer - Angry Nerd Gaming
The Shooting Range #127 - Metal Beasts section at 00:32 discusses the 105/25 M43.
The Shooting Range #125 - Pages of History section at 05:10 discusses the 105/25 M43.

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


FIAT-Ansaldo
Autoblindo  AB 41 · AB 43
Light Tanks  L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.)
Medium Tanks  Celere Sahariano
M11/39  M11/39
M13/40  M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41  M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42  M15/42
P40  P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
Tank Destroyers 
L3/33  L3/33 CC
Semovente L40  47/32 L40
Semovente M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
Semovente M42  75/34 M42
Semovente M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
SPAAs  M42 Contraereo

Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1

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