Lim-5P

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Lim-5P
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Description

The Lim-5P is a rank V German jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Danger Zone".

The Lim-5P (LIcencyjny Myśliwiec; Licensed Fighter) is a Polish built MiG-17PF in East-German service. Compared to the MiG-17 in the Soviet tech tree, the MiG-17PF/Lim-5P features an airborne radar to search for aerial targets, an afterburning engine, and a uniform armament with three 23 mm cannons. While players of Chinese's Shenyang F-5 will found them very similar thanks to the afterburner, but Lim-5P has only 3 23 mm cannon and no missiles, although having more ammo to sparse, players might need more practice to utilize this jet properly.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 2 000 m1 114 km/h
Turn time21 s
Max altitude15 500 m
EngineKlimov VK-1
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight5 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 2,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,101 1,094 15500 21.8 23.0 39.1 36.1 475
Upgraded 1,126 1,114 21.2 21.5 61.9 50.0

Players who own the Chinese (North Korean) F-5 will soon find themselves at home thanks to the exact same engine configuration- the VK-1F turbojet engine in this case; this sets Lim-5P apart from its Soviet counterparts. The overall handling though is very similar as well as they share the very same MiG-17 airframe aside from lacking the infamous N-37D cannon for higher damage; so most of the same traits shared on MiG-17 series are also a thing on Lim-5P. Be sure not to go too fast (> 900 km/h; the control surfaces lock up beyond this speed and increase the odds of an unwanted crash) and do make sure you finish off the target as fast as possible, bail from the battlefield before anything with better missiles come over; also beware of the below average roll rate, this could be a problem in necessary dogfights but the overall maneuverability is still sufficient to finish off damaged jets or jet bombers if needed.

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1150 450 N/A 598 450 ~12 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 600 < 700 < 750 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Klimov VK-1 1 4,112 kg 234 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Gross
Weight
Weight (each) Type 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel
892 kg Afterburning centrifugal-flow turbojet 4,463 kg 4,887 kg 5,283 kg 5,336 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel MGW
Stationary 2,380 kgf 2,932 kgf 0.66 0.60 0.55 0.55
Optimal 2,380 kgf
(0 km/h)
2,932 kgf
(0 km/h)
0.66 0.60 0.55 0.55

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 150 km/h
Gear450 km/h

Like his Fresco cousins, aside from a 60 mm windshield, it has 16 mm steel plates behind the pilot seats and a 10 mm one by the intake; although it might not sound much to autocannons, but having this extra layer of protection is better than none at all for the pilot.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 820 → 5 118 Sl icon.png
RB11 440 → 15 329 Sl icon.png
SB14 910 → 19 979 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications136 000 Rp icon.png
216 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 300 Ge icon.png
Crew training120 000 Sl icon.png
Experts420 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces830 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
208 / 208 / 208 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
9 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
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Compressor
Research:
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Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
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New boosters
Research:
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Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
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Wings repair
Research:
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Cost:
27 000 Sl icon.png
460 Ge icon.png
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G-suit
Research:
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Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
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Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
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ns23_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
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ns23_new_gun
Research:
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Cost:
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Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 13 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon
Ammunition300 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Main article: NR-23 (23 mm)

The Lim-5P is armed with:

  • 3 x 23 mm NR-23 cannons, chin-mounted (100 rpg = 300 total)

Different from his cousins in other trees, Lim-5P replaced the nose 37 mm N-37D cannon with another 23 mm NR-23 instead; perhaps there are some weight reduction in this case but this also decrease the overall firepower. For players who find 23 mm sometimes unreliable, this is a good time to practice its ballistics and make sure every shot counts; 100 rounds per gun is not as forgiving as NATO jets.

Usage in battles

MiG-17 equivalent for the DDR line fighters is the best description for Lim-5P; it is the Polish licensed version of MiG-17PF and this also marks its identity as a all-weather interceptor with a RP-5 radar. It might not be very reliable due to its electronics, but 8 km detection range at higher altitude does also gives players an edge on spotting enemies beforehand; this is especially true in SB since who spot first really matters in this case (but do make sure the target is indeed an enemy). Another feature of Lim-5P is the VK-1F afterburner turbojet engine, players of Shenyang F-5 will soon find themselves at home as this further boost its capability to chase down enemies with lower energy or altitude with ease, sometimes even handling supersonic jets in dire.

However, players will also find the similar flaws from his cousins: control surfaces lock up and subpar roll rate at higher speeds. Be sure to check the speeds before chasing down enemies or players will meet their demise quickly; do beware of jets with missiles when doing dogfights, since the heat from the afterburner is high, turn it off for better odds to dodge the missile. Meanwhile, it has 3x23 mm NR-23 cannons instead of the conventional 2x23 mm and a 37 mm N-37D config for lighter weight during interception missions and also higher ammo count; to some players it means more rounds to sparse, while some consider it as a big nerf from his cousins since the 23 mm rounds don't fly as straight as their NATO counterparts and some might prefer having a 37 mm for an instant-kill. Trigger discipline is still essential for this jet (300 rounds in total) to make sure the best efficiency can be achieved- it is still an autocannon, after all.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very good acceleration due to the afterburner
  • Has a RP-5 radar to search enemies
  • Above average top speed and climb rate
  • Turn rate is better than most enemies it faces
  • More ammo for cannons compared to MiG-15s/17s

Cons:

  • Rather bad roll rate at high speeds
  • Compresses at high speeds
  • 23 mm cannons have subpar velocity
  • Lacks ground-attack ordnances

History

The MiG-17 (NATO: Fresco) has been the weapon of choice for Warsaw Pact or allies of Soviet Union and has already been exported to tens of countries throughout the 1950s; while the development for supersonic jets were still in progress, some countries with better heavy industry capabilities decided to get the license for building them domestically. Aside from the other wide-spread build of Shenyang J-5 (歼-5), the other licensed build was the WSK "PZL-Mielec" Lim-5 and 6 from Poland.

The licensing contract was signed in 1955 as the replacement of the earlier Lim-2 (MiG-15), Lim-5P was the all-weather variant of MiG-17PF with revisions on armaments and engine, as well as a RP-5 radar for target acquisition. By the end of 1960, 129 of them were built; some of them were also converted into Lim-6M and -6MR variant as attacker/recon aircraft for Polish Air Force.

The LSK (Luftstreitkräfte; East German Airforce) acquired 40-48 of MiG-17PF/Lim-5P from both USSR and Poland as one of the composition of their jet fighter/attacker fleets. They didn't join any combats and been phrased out by newer jets from USSR between 1970 to 1973, either being scrapped or been transferred to Guinea-Bissau in the 1980s.[1]

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PZL Mielec (Polskie Zakłady Lotnicze)
Jet Fighters  Lim-5P
See also  Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau

Germany jet aircraft
Ar 234  Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3
He 162  He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2
Ho 229  Ho 229 V3
Me 163  Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0
Me 262 A  Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a
Me 262 C  Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b
USA  ▀F-84F
  CL-13A Mk 5 · CL-13B Mk.6 · ▀F-86K
  F-104G
  F-4F Early · F-4F
USSR  ▀MiG-15bis
  Lim-5P
  ▀MiG-19S
  ▀MiG-21 SPS-K · ▀MiG-21MF · ▀MiG-21bis-SAU
  ▀MiG-23MF · ▀MiG-23MLA
  ▀Su-22UM3K
  ▀IL-28
Britain  Sea Hawk Mk.100
Italy  ▀G.91 R/3 · ▀G.91 R/4