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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''L8A2''' is a British 7.62 mm General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG). It is an Enfield L7 GPMG with modifications to make it suitable for use as a tank co-axial machine gun. The Enfield L7 GPMG, of which the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]], L8A2, [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]] are all variants, is itself a British licence-built version of the Belgian [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] GPMG. As such, the L8A2 performs identically to the [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]], and [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]] and almost identically to the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]]. Being only a 7.62 mm machine gun, it is largely ineffective against all but the most weakly armoured or open cabin vehicles.
The '''L8A2''' is a British 7.62mm General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG), it is an Enfield L7 GPMG with modifications to make it suitable for use as a tank co-axial machine gun, in game it is found as the co-axial machine gun for the [[Challenger Mk.2]] and [[Challenger Mk.3]]. The Enfield L7 GPMG of which the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]], L8A2, [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]] are all variants, is itself a British licence-built version of the Belgian [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] GPMG. As such the L8A2 performs identically to the [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] and [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]] and almost identically to the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]]. Being only a 7.62mm machine gun it is largely ineffective against all but the most weakly armoured, or open cabin, vehicles.
 
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
The L8A2 is used as the co-axial machine gun on the Challenger 1 series of tanks, these are the:
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* {{Specs-Link|uk_challenger_mk_3|short}}
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* {{Specs-Link|uk_vickers_mk7|short}}
  
* [[Challenger Mk.2]]
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== General info ==
* [[Challenger Mk.3]]
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The L8A2 performs identically to the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]] and [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] machine guns. The only difference between it and the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]] is a marginally higher rate of fire on the L37 versions.
  
== General info ==
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=== Available ammunition ===
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The L8A2 performs identically to the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]] and [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] machine guns, while the only difference between it and the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]] is a marginally higher rate of fire on the L37 versions.  
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Like the the L8A1, the L8A2 can only be equipped with one ammo belt consisting of two Armour Piercing (AP) bullets, followed by one Tracer (T) bullet. Neither bullet has much penetration (maximum of 10 mm), however the AP bullet performs much better than the tracer bullet.
  
=== Available shells ===
 
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Like the the L8A1, the L8A2 can only be equipped with one ammo belt consisting of two Armour Piercing (AP) bullets, followed by one Tracer (T) bullet. Neither bullet has much penetration (maximum of 10mm), however the AP bullet performs much better than the tracer bullet.
 
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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! 500m
 
! 1,000m
 
! 1,450m
 
! 1,500m
 
 
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| AP || 10 || 9 || 7 || 4 || 1 || 0  
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| AP || 10 || 9 || 7 || 4 || 0 || 0
 
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| T || 5 || 4 || 2 || 1 || 0.1 || 0  
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| T || 5 || 4 || 2 || 1 || 0 || 0
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30°<br>from horizontal
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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| AP || 853 || 0.0108 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +2.0° || 47° || 60° || 65°
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! 100%
 
 
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| AP || 853 || 0.0108 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ??° || ??° || ??° || ??°
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| T || 835 || 0.0095 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +2.0° || 47° || 60° || 65°
 
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| T || 835 || 0.0095 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ??° || ??° || ??° || ??°
 
 
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
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The L8A2 performs identically to the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]] and [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] machine guns, while having a slightly lower rate of fire than the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]]. It has the same ballistic performance as the [[L3A1 (7.62 mm)|L3A1]] found on previous British Vehicles, but has a higher rate of fire.
 
The L8A2 performs identically to the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]] and [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] machine guns, while having a slightly lower rate of fire than the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]]. It has the same ballistic performance as the [[L3A1 (7.62 mm)|L3A1]] found on previous British Vehicles, but has a higher rate of fire.
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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== Usage in battles ==
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Due to the very low ammo penetration, this weapon is largely ineffective against armoured targets (although you may be able to penetrate some vehicles with extremely thin armour). The gun is primarily useful for killing exposed crew members in open topped vehicles, although there are few vehicles at the battle ratings this gun is found at. The gun can also be used for marking enemy vehicles and obscuring the view of enemy players by shooting at their gun sight. You can use the gun against aircraft, though it will only do very minimal damage. Being co-axially mounted means it can often not be brought / kept on target against aircraft as well.
Due to the very low penetration this weapon it is largely ineffective against enemy armour (although you may be able to penetrate some vehicles with extremely thing armour). The gun is primarily useful for killing exposed crew members in open topped vehicles (although there are few such vehicles at the battle ratings this gun is found at). The gun can also be used for marking enemy vehicles and obscuring the view of enemy players (shooting at their gun sight). You can use the gun against aircraft however it does minimal damage, and being co-axially mounted means it can often not be brought / kept on target against aircraft.
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
 
 
* Better rate of fire than [[L3A1 (7.62 mm)|L3A1]] machine gun
 
* Better rate of fire than [[L3A1 (7.62 mm)|L3A1]] machine gun
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
 
 
* Lower rate of fire than the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]] machine guns found on later tanks
 
* Lower rate of fire than the [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]] machine guns found on later tanks
* Low penetration makes it ineffective against armour
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* Low penetration makes it ineffective against most armoured targets
* Low Damage
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* Low damage
  
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== History ==
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{{Main|FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)}}
 
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Along with the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]], [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]] and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]] the L8A2 is a British License built variant of the Belgian [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] GPMG. The FN MAG is a Belgian 7.62 mm general-purpose machine gun, it was designed in the early 1950s by Ernest Vervier, while working at the weapons company Fabrique Nationale (FN). Between 1956 and 1957 the British armed forces trialled the FN MAG against the american [[M60D (7.62 mm)|M60]], and selected the FN MAG. The MAG was built under license as the L7 GPMG by Enfield in Britain, with minor modifications being made. It entered service under the Designation L7A1 in 1963.
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Along with the [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)|L8A1]], [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)|L37A1]], and [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)|L37A2]], the L8A2 is a British License built variant of the [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)|FN MAG]] GPMG. The FN MAG is a Belgian 7.62 mm general-purpose machine gun. It was designed in the early 1950s by Ernest Vervier, while working at the weapons company Fabrique Nationale (FN). Between 1956 and 1957, the British armed forces trialled both the FN MAG and the American [[M60D (7.62 mm)|M60]] machine gun, selecting the FN MAG for usage. The MAG was built under license as the L7 GPMG by Enfield in Britain, with minor modifications being made. It entered service under the Designation L7A1 in 1963.
  
The L8A1 variant was designed for co-axial use, primarily in the Chieftain series of Main Battle Tank (MBT). It was modified with a fume extractor, removal of the shoulder stock, and a folding pistol grip, in order to allow the weapon to function better in the confined space available inside a tank. The L8A2 is an upgraded L8A1, with an improved feed system.
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The L8A1 variant was designed for co-axial use, primarily in the Chieftain series of Main Battle Tank (MBT). It was modified with a fume extractor, removal of the shoulder stock, and a folding pistol grip, in order to allow the weapon to function better in the confined space available inside a tank. The L8A2 is an upgraded L8A1 with an improved feed system.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
 
''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
  
== Read also ==
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== See also ==
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* [[L8A1 (7.62 mm)]]
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* [[L8A2 (7.62 mm)]]
 
 
* [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)]]
 
* [[L37A1 (7.62 mm)]]
 
* [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)]]
 
* [[L37A2 (7.62 mm)]]
 
* [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)]]
 
* [[FN MAG 60-40 (7.62 mm)]]
  
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* [https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=206 Military Factory - Enfield L7 General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG)]
 
 
[[wikipedia:FN_MAG|Wikipedia - FN MAG]]
 
  
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Latest revision as of 23:56, 13 November 2019

L8A2 (7.62 mm)
Weapon L8A2 (7.62 mm).png
General characteristics
7.62 mmCalibre
200 roundsBelt capacity
600 shots/minRate of fire
835 - 853 m/sMuzzle velocity
10 mm Maximum penetration

Description

The L8A2 is a British 7.62 mm General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG). It is an Enfield L7 GPMG with modifications to make it suitable for use as a tank co-axial machine gun. The Enfield L7 GPMG, of which the L8A1, L8A2, L37A1 and L37A2 are all variants, is itself a British licence-built version of the Belgian FN MAG GPMG. As such, the L8A2 performs identically to the FN MAG, and L8A1 and almost identically to the L37A1 and L37A2. Being only a 7.62 mm machine gun, it is largely ineffective against all but the most weakly armoured or open cabin vehicles.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

The L8A2 performs identically to the L8A1 and FN MAG machine guns. The only difference between it and the L37A1 and L37A2 is a marginally higher rate of fire on the L37 versions.

Available ammunition

Like the the L8A1, the L8A2 can only be equipped with one ammo belt consisting of two Armour Piercing (AP) bullets, followed by one Tracer (T) bullet. Neither bullet has much penetration (maximum of 10 mm), however the AP bullet performs much better than the tracer bullet.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
AP 10 9 7 4 0 0
T 5 4 2 1 0 0
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Normalisation at 30°
from horizontal
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
AP 853 0.0108 N/A N/A N/A +2.0° 47° 60° 65°
T 835 0.0095 N/A N/A N/A +2.0° 47° 60° 65°

Comparison with analogues

The L8A2 performs identically to the L8A1 and FN MAG machine guns, while having a slightly lower rate of fire than the L37A1 and L37A2. It has the same ballistic performance as the L3A1 found on previous British Vehicles, but has a higher rate of fire.

Usage in battles

Due to the very low ammo penetration, this weapon is largely ineffective against armoured targets (although you may be able to penetrate some vehicles with extremely thin armour). The gun is primarily useful for killing exposed crew members in open topped vehicles, although there are few vehicles at the battle ratings this gun is found at. The gun can also be used for marking enemy vehicles and obscuring the view of enemy players by shooting at their gun sight. You can use the gun against aircraft, though it will only do very minimal damage. Being co-axially mounted means it can often not be brought / kept on target against aircraft as well.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Better rate of fire than L3A1 machine gun

Cons:

  • Lower rate of fire than the L37A1 and L37A2 machine guns found on later tanks
  • Low penetration makes it ineffective against most armoured targets
  • Low damage

History

Along with the L8A1, L37A1, and L37A2, the L8A2 is a British License built variant of the FN MAG GPMG. The FN MAG is a Belgian 7.62 mm general-purpose machine gun. It was designed in the early 1950s by Ernest Vervier, while working at the weapons company Fabrique Nationale (FN). Between 1956 and 1957, the British armed forces trialled both the FN MAG and the American M60 machine gun, selecting the FN MAG for usage. The MAG was built under license as the L7 GPMG by Enfield in Britain, with minor modifications being made. It entered service under the Designation L7A1 in 1963.

The L8A1 variant was designed for co-axial use, primarily in the Chieftain series of Main Battle Tank (MBT). It was modified with a fume extractor, removal of the shoulder stock, and a folding pistol grip, in order to allow the weapon to function better in the confined space available inside a tank. The L8A2 is an upgraded L8A1 with an improved feed system.

Media

An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

External links


Tank machine guns
USA  7.62 mm: M1919A4 · M37 · M60D · M73 · M240
  12.7 mm: M2HB · M85 · M8C
Germany  7.62 mm: MG 3A1 · FN MAG 60-40
  7.92 mm: MG 13 Dreyse · MG 34 · MG 42 · MG 37(t)
USSR  7.62 mm: DT · Maxim · SGMT · PKT · RP-46
  12.7 mm: DK · DShK · NSVT
  14.5 mm: KPVT
Britain  7.62 mm: L3A1 · L8A1 · L8A2 · L37A1 · L37A2 · L94A1
  7.7 mm: Vickers
  7.92 mm: BESA
  12.7 mm: L21A1
Japan  6.5 mm: Type 91
  7.62 mm: Type 74
  7.7 mm: Type 97
  12.7 mm: Type 60 (B)
Italy  7.62 mm Beretta MG 42/59
  8 mm: Breda Mod. 38
France  7.5 mm: MAC 31 · AAT-52
  7.62 mm: AAN-F1