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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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Japanese '''36 cm/45 Type 41''' is one of the most capable naval weapons in the War Thunder, often able to take down enemy destroyers or light cruisers with a single salvo (even if only by flooding). Pretty much only battleships have enough armor to consistently deflect the default SAP shells, though the Type 93 APC can breach even the citadel armor given the right circumstances.
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Like all high-caliber guns, they are best used against large, predictable targets, as the base 39-second reload time (decreased down to 30 seconds with crew skills and qualifications) makes it tricky to correct for maneuvering targets, such as Destroyers or Coastal fleets. These are better dealt with using the secondary, or even anti-air guns.
  
 
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="float:right" width="50%"
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ship
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! colspan="2" | Front
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! colspan="2" | Sides
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! colspan="2" | Top
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! colspan="2" | Elevator
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|-
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! Tickness (mm) !! type !! (mm) !! type !! (mm) !! type !! (mm) !! type
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|-
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| [[IJN Hyuga]] || 305 || {{Annotation|RCA|Rolled cemented armor}} || 203 || RCA || 115 || {{Annotation|RHA|Rolled homogeneous armor}} || 299—100 || RCA
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|-
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| [[IJN Kongo|IJN&nbsp;Kongo]] || 254 || RCA || 254 || RCA || 152 || RCA || 229 || RCA
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|-
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|}
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36 cm/45 Type 41 is the main armament coming in two distinct turret designs. [[IJN Hyuga]] has armor tailored for broadsides, with higher protection on the turret face and the sides of the ammo elevator. [[Kongo (Family)|Kongo-class]] features protection that's more all-rounded, lacking any particular weak spots like the base of the ammo elevator on Hyuga.
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=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
 
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There are 4 types of ammunition available, SAP shared by all ships, distinct AP shells for [[IJN Hyuga]], a distinct AP shells for [[Kongo (Family)|Kongo-class]] and the HE shells available only for Kongo-class.
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* 356 mm ordinary SAP - the default shell, is most useful of the three, having the largest bursting charge while also maintaining good penetration capabilities and one of the best muzzle velocities in its class. It's able to deal with most of the targets delivering an abundance of damage. Where it struggles are Battleships or otherwise heavily-armored parts of the warships (turret faces, armored magazines, etc.)
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* APC shells (Type 91 / 3rd Year Type) - a perfect choice for dealing with Battleships or more heavily armored and/or angled battlecruisers. What they lack in explosive filler, they make up in penetration. Generally shouldn't be used against lightly-armored targets, as the damage output is rather inadequate.
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* Common Type 0 HE - an oddity among warships, where the HE shell has significantly less explosive filler than the SAP shell. Given that SAP has a fuze of just 12 mm it leaves HE only for the least armored targets, such as destroyers (which likely would be better dealt with using the secondary guns) or taking out exposed emplacements like unarmored secondary and anti-aircraft guns.
  
 
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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There's no direct 1-to-1 analogue to the Type 41, the nearest competitor is the American [[14 inch/45 Mk.8 (365 mm)|14 inch/45 Mk.8]] (historically Mk. 8 was 1930s upgrade to the 1910s-design, being around the same age as the 1908-design Type 41). Against the US equivalent Type 41 has a far better rate of fire, targeting speed, vertical guidance, somewhat lower muzzle velocity, smaller explosive filler, and about the same penetration, overall being able to deliver {{#vardefine:ArizonaFillerHE|39.3}}{{#vardefine:ArizonaRoF|1.2}}{{#vardefine:KongoFillerHE|32.45}}{{#vardefine:KongoFillerSAP|38.64}}{{#vardefine:KongoFillerRoF|2}}{{#expr: (({{#unit:jp_battlecruiser_kongo|weapon|{{{group|main}}}|{{{slot|1}}}|firerate}}*{{#var:KongoFillerHE}}) / ({{#var:ArizonaRoF}}*{{#var:ArizonaFillerHE}}) )*100-100 round 0 }}% higher explosive mass on target with the HE shells on per-gun basis, or even {{#expr: (({{#unit:jp_battlecruiser_kongo|weapon|{{{group|main}}}|{{{slot|1}}}|firerate}}*{{#var:KongoFillerSAP}}) / ({{#var:ArizonaRoF}}*{{#var:ArizonaFillerHE}}) )*100-100 round 0 }}% when SAP shells are used.
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However, comparisons to the other high-caliber guns are not so rosy. While muzzle velocity and guidance speed are about average and perfectly adequate for a gun this size, the explosive filler is one of the worst for each of the shell types. AP has average to above-average penetration, but SAP has some of the worst penetration values across the ranges. To give a specific example, Type 41 falls significantly behind [[305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)|Soviet 305 mm/54 B-50]] in pretty much every respect for every shell type, despite the soviet gun being of a much lower caliber.
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====HE====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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|-
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |Cannon
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! rowspan="2" |Sample Ship
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! rowspan="2" |Ammo
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! rowspan="2" |Calibre<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" |Muzzle Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" |Sustained rate of fire<br>(rounds/min)
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! colspan="2" |Targeting speed<br>(°/s)
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! rowspan="2" |TNT Equivalent<br>(kg)
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! colspan="3" |Penetration<br>@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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|-
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!Horizontal!!Vertical!!1,000 m!!5,000 m!!10,000 m
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|-
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|[[File:Japan flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| 356 mm Common Type 0
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| [[IJN Kongo]] || HE || 356 || 805 || 2 || 2.6 || 4.2 || 32.45 || 67 || 67 || 67
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|-
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|[[File:Japan flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)]]
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| [[IJN Ikoma]] || HE || 305 || 825 || 2 || 2.6 || 3.4 || 37.82 || 69 || 69 || 69
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|-
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|[[File:USA flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[14 inch/45 Mk.8 (365 mm)]]
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| [[USS Arizona]] || HE || 365 || 823 || 1.2 || 1.7 || 3.6 || 39.3 || 70 || 70 || 70
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|-
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|[[File:Britain flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(H) (343 mm)]]
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| [[HMS Marlborough]] || HE || 343 || 759 || 2 || 1.7 || 4.2 || 88.11 || 77 || 77 || 77
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|-
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|[[File:Britain flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm)]]
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| [[HMS Invincible]] || HE || 305 || 831 || 2 || 2.6 || 3.4 || 53.13 || 72 || 72 || 72
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|-
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|[[File:Germany flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)]]
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| [[SMS Kaiser]] || HE with base fuze || 305 || 855 || 3 || 2.6 || 3.4 || 27 || 167 || 124 || 87
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|-
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|[[File:USSR flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)]]
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| [[Parizhskaya kommuna]] || HE patt.1928 || 305 || 950 || 2.2 || 2.7 || 5.1 || 55.41 || 72 || 72 || 72
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|-
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|[[File:USSR flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)]]
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| [[Kronshtadt]] || HE patt.1928 || 305 || 950 || 3 || 4.3 || 8.5 || 55.41 || 72 || 72 || 72
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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|-
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |Cannon
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! rowspan="2" |Sample Ship
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! rowspan="2" |Ammo
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! rowspan="2" |Calibre<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" |Muzzle Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" |Sustained rate of fire<br>(rounds/min)
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! colspan="2" |Targeting speed<br>(°/s)
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! rowspan="2" |TNT Equivalent<br>(kg)
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! colspan="3" |Penetration<br>@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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|-
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!Horizontal!!Vertical!!1,000 m!!5,000 m!!10,000 m
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|[[File:Japan flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| 356 mm Common Type 0
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| [[IJN Kongo]] || SAPCBC || 356 || 780 || 2 || 2.6 || 4.2 || 38.64 || 301 || 248 || 199
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|-
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|[[File:Britain flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(H) (343 mm)]]
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| [[HMS Marlborough]] || SAPCBC || 343 || 759 || 2 || 1.7 || 4.2 || 53.3 || 305 || 267 || 223
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|-
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|[[File:Britain flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)]]
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| [[HMS Hood]] || SAPCBC || 381 || 752 || 2 || 1.7 || 4.2 || 58.6 || 487 || 418 || 352
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|[[File:Germany flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)]]
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| [[SMS Kaiser]] || SAP || 305 || 850 || 3 || 2.6 || 3.4 || 10.8 || 481 || 357 || 252
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|-
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|[[File:USSR flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)]]
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| [[Parizhskaya kommuna]] || SAPCBC || 305 || 762 || 2.2 || 2.7 || 5.1 || 55.2 || 395 || 301 || 223
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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|-
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |Cannon
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! rowspan="2" |Sample Ship
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! rowspan="2" |Ammo
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! rowspan="2" |Calibre<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" |Muzzle Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" |Sustained rate of fire<br>(rounds/min)
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! colspan="2" |Targeting speed<br>(°/s)
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! rowspan="2" |TNT Equivalent<br>(kg)
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! colspan="3" |Penetration<br>@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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|-
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!Horizontal!!Vertical!!1,000 m!!5,000 m!!10,000 m
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|-
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|[[File:Japan flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| 356 mm Common Type 0
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| [[IJN Kongo]] || APCBC || 356 || 805 || 2 || 2.6 || 4.2 || 12.21 || 635 || 529 || 431
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|-
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| [[12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm)]]
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| [[IJN Ikoma]] || APC || 305 || 825 || 2 || 2.6 || 3.4 || 13.64 || 496 || 345 || 229
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|-
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|[[File:USA flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[14 inch/45 Mk.8 (365 mm)]]
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| [[USS Arizona]] || APCBC || 365 || 823 || 1.2 || 1.7 || 3.6 || 14 || 645 || 542 || 444
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|-
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|[[File:Britain flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(H) (343 mm)]]
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| [[HMS Marlborough]] || APCBC Mk.IIIa || 343 || 759 || 2 || 1.7 || 4.2 || 14.1 || 601 || 519 || 441
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|-
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|[[File:Britain flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm)]]
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| [[HMS Hood]] || APCBC || 381 || 752 || 2 || 1.7 || 4.2 || 20.68 || 644 || 528 || 422
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|-
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|[[File:Germany flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm)]]
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| [[SMS Kaiser]] || APC || 305 || 855 || 3 || 2.6 || 3.4 || 13.6 || 519 || 383 || 270
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|-
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|[[File:USSR flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm)]]
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| [[Parizhskaya kommuna]] || APCBC || 305 || 762 || 2.2 || 2.7 || 5.1 || 12.96 || 522 || 398 || 295
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|[[File:USSR flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm)]]
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| [[Kronshtadt]] || APCBC  || 305 || 900 || 3 || 4.3 || 8.5 || 18.79 || 677 || 541 || 415
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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Usage of the 36 cm/45 Type 41 is no different than most of the other high-caliber main guns on the battlecruisers and battleships. The only feature of note is the lackluster HE shells that should be avoided outside of some very specific circumstances. Overall though the gun is perfectly adequate, there's no point in which it stands out above all its peers, but there's also nothing where it's extraordinarily lackluster.
  
 
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* Good, high-velocity SAP shell
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* Large shells make for a huge holes in the enemy ships, speeding up flooding and making unwatering longer making it common to sink ships via flooding, especially destroyers and light cruisers.
  
 
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* Dedicated armor-piercing shell has one of the smallest explosive fillers, trading off above-average penetration for a very poor after-penetration effect
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 16:39, 12 September 2022

Description

Japanese 36 cm/45 Type 41 is one of the most capable naval weapons in the War Thunder, often able to take down enemy destroyers or light cruisers with a single salvo (even if only by flooding). Pretty much only battleships have enough armor to consistently deflect the default SAP shells, though the Type 93 APC can breach even the citadel armor given the right circumstances.

Like all high-caliber guns, they are best used against large, predictable targets, as the base 39-second reload time (decreased down to 30 seconds with crew skills and qualifications) makes it tricky to correct for maneuvering targets, such as Destroyers or Coastal fleets. These are better dealt with using the secondary, or even anti-air guns.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Ship Front Sides Top Elevator
Tickness (mm) type (mm) type (mm) type (mm) type
IJN Hyuga 305 RCA 203 RCA 115 RHA 299—100 RCA
IJN Kongo 254 RCA 254 RCA 152 RCA 229 RCA

36 cm/45 Type 41 is the main armament coming in two distinct turret designs. IJN Hyuga has armor tailored for broadsides, with higher protection on the turret face and the sides of the ammo elevator. Kongo-class features protection that's more all-rounded, lacking any particular weak spots like the base of the ammo elevator on Hyuga.

Available ammunition

There are 4 types of ammunition available, SAP shared by all ships, distinct AP shells for IJN Hyuga, a distinct AP shells for Kongo-class and the HE shells available only for Kongo-class.

  • 356 mm ordinary SAP - the default shell, is most useful of the three, having the largest bursting charge while also maintaining good penetration capabilities and one of the best muzzle velocities in its class. It's able to deal with most of the targets delivering an abundance of damage. Where it struggles are Battleships or otherwise heavily-armored parts of the warships (turret faces, armored magazines, etc.)
  • APC shells (Type 91 / 3rd Year Type) - a perfect choice for dealing with Battleships or more heavily armored and/or angled battlecruisers. What they lack in explosive filler, they make up in penetration. Generally shouldn't be used against lightly-armored targets, as the damage output is rather inadequate.
  • Common Type 0 HE - an oddity among warships, where the HE shell has significantly less explosive filler than the SAP shell. Given that SAP has a fuze of just 12 mm it leaves HE only for the least armored targets, such as destroyers (which likely would be better dealt with using the secondary guns) or taking out exposed emplacements like unarmored secondary and anti-aircraft guns.
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
Ordinary SAP SAPCBC 301 280 248 222 199 168
3rd Year Type APC APCBC 607 564 500 447 402 338
Type 91 APC APCBC 635 593 529 476 431 366
Common Type 0 HE 67 67 67 67 67 67
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(s) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Ordinary SAP SAPCBC 780 635.58 0.01 12 68,640 48° 63° 71°
3rd Year Type APC APCBC 780 635.58 0.05 12 13,310 48° 63° 71°
Type 91 APC APCBC 771 671.3 0.05 12 12,210 48° 63° 71°
Common Type 0 HE 805 621 0 0.1 32,450 79° 80° 81°

Comparison with analogues

There's no direct 1-to-1 analogue to the Type 41, the nearest competitor is the American 14 inch/45 Mk.8 (historically Mk. 8 was 1930s upgrade to the 1910s-design, being around the same age as the 1908-design Type 41). Against the US equivalent Type 41 has a far better rate of fire, targeting speed, vertical guidance, somewhat lower muzzle velocity, smaller explosive filler, and about the same penetration, overall being able to deliver 38% higher explosive mass on target with the HE shells on per-gun basis, or even 64% when SAP shells are used.

However, comparisons to the other high-caliber guns are not so rosy. While muzzle velocity and guidance speed are about average and perfectly adequate for a gun this size, the explosive filler is one of the worst for each of the shell types. AP has average to above-average penetration, but SAP has some of the worst penetration values across the ranges. To give a specific example, Type 41 falls significantly behind Soviet 305 mm/54 B-50 in pretty much every respect for every shell type, despite the soviet gun being of a much lower caliber.

HE

Cannon Sample Ship Ammo Calibre
(mm) 		Muzzle Velocity
(m/s) 		Sustained rate of fire
(rounds/min) 		Targeting speed
(°/s) 		TNT Equivalent
(kg) 		Penetration
@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Horizontal Vertical 1,000 m 5,000 m 10,000 m
Japan flag.png 356 mm Common Type 0 IJN Kongo HE 356 805 2 2.6 4.2 32.45 67 67 67
Japan flag.png 12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm) IJN Ikoma HE 305 825 2 2.6 3.4 37.82 69 69 69
USA flag.png 14 inch/45 Mk.8 (365 mm) USS Arizona HE 365 823 1.2 1.7 3.6 39.3 70 70 70
Britain flag.png 13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(H) (343 mm) HMS Marlborough HE 343 759 2 1.7 4.2 88.11 77 77 77
Britain flag.png 305 mm/45 Mark X (305 mm) HMS Invincible HE 305 831 2 2.6 3.4 53.13 72 72 72
Germany flag.png 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm) SMS Kaiser HE with base fuze 305 855 3 2.6 3.4 27 167 124 87
USSR flag.png 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm) Parizhskaya kommuna HE patt.1928 305 950 2.2 2.7 5.1 55.41 72 72 72
USSR flag.png 305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm) Kronshtadt HE patt.1928 305 950 3 4.3 8.5 55.41 72 72 72

SAP

Cannon Sample Ship Ammo Calibre
(mm) 		Muzzle Velocity
(m/s) 		Sustained rate of fire
(rounds/min) 		Targeting speed
(°/s) 		TNT Equivalent
(kg) 		Penetration
@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Horizontal Vertical 1,000 m 5,000 m 10,000 m
Japan flag.png 356 mm Common Type 0 IJN Kongo SAPCBC 356 780 2 2.6 4.2 38.64 301 248 199
Britain flag.png 13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(H) (343 mm) HMS Marlborough SAPCBC 343 759 2 1.7 4.2 53.3 305 267 223
Britain flag.png 15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm) HMS Hood SAPCBC 381 752 2 1.7 4.2 58.6 487 418 352
Germany flag.png 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm) SMS Kaiser SAP 305 850 3 2.6 3.4 10.8 481 357 252
USSR flag.png 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm) Parizhskaya kommuna SAPCBC 305 762 2.2 2.7 5.1 55.2 395 301 223

APC

Cannon Sample Ship Ammo Calibre
(mm) 		Muzzle Velocity
(m/s) 		Sustained rate of fire
(rounds/min) 		Targeting speed
(°/s) 		TNT Equivalent
(kg) 		Penetration
@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Horizontal Vertical 1,000 m 5,000 m 10,000 m
Japan flag.png 356 mm Common Type 0 IJN Kongo APCBC 356 805 2 2.6 4.2 12.21 635 529 431
Japan flag.png 12-inch/45 Vickers (305 mm) IJN Ikoma APC 305 825 2 2.6 3.4 13.64 496 345 229
USA flag.png 14 inch/45 Mk.8 (365 mm) USS Arizona APCBC 365 823 1.2 1.7 3.6 14 645 542 444
Britain flag.png 13.5 inch/45 Mark 5(H) (343 mm) HMS Marlborough APCBC Mk.IIIa 343 759 2 1.7 4.2 14.1 601 519 441
Britain flag.png 15 inch/42 BL Mark I (381 mm) HMS Hood APCBC 381 752 2 1.7 4.2 20.68 644 528 422
Germany flag.png 305 mm/50 SK L/50 (305 mm) SMS Kaiser APC 305 855 3 2.6 3.4 13.6 519 383 270
USSR flag.png 12-inch/52 pattern 1907 (305 mm) Parizhskaya kommuna APCBC 305 762 2.2 2.7 5.1 12.96 522 398 295
USSR flag.png 305 mm/54 B-50 (305 mm) Kronshtadt APCBC 305 900 3 4.3 8.5 18.79 677 541 415

Usage in battles

Usage of the 36 cm/45 Type 41 is no different than most of the other high-caliber main guns on the battlecruisers and battleships. The only feature of note is the lackluster HE shells that should be avoided outside of some very specific circumstances. Overall though the gun is perfectly adequate, there's no point in which it stands out above all its peers, but there's also nothing where it's extraordinarily lackluster.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good, high-velocity SAP shell
  • Good penetration of the AP shell with a more flat penetration curve at range than the contemporaries
  • Large shells make for a huge holes in the enemy ships, speeding up flooding and making unwatering longer making it common to sink ships via flooding, especially destroyers and light cruisers.

Cons:

  • Extremely lackluster HE shell, having some of the smallest explosive fillers and muzzle velocity, thus being extremely situational
  • Dedicated armor-piercing shell has one of the smallest explosive fillers, trading off above-average penetration for a very poor after-penetration effect

History

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See also

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75 mm  Type 88 AA
76 mm  3-inch/40 Type 41 · 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type · 8 cm/60 Type 98
100 mm  100/65 mm Type 98 mod A
120 mm  120 mm/45 3rd Year Type · 120 mm/45 10th year type
127 mm  5 inch/40 Type 89 · 127 mm/50 3rd Year Type
140 mm  140 mm/50 3rd Year Type
152 mm  6-inch/45 Type 41 · 15 cm/50 Type 41
155 mm  155 mm/60 3rd Year Type
200 mm  20 cm 3rd year type No.1
203 mm  20 cm/45 Type 41 · 20 cm/50 3rd year type No.2
356 mm  36 cm/45 Type 41
410 mm  410 mm/45 Type 3
  Foreign:
20 mm  20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (USA/Britain)
40 mm  Bofors L/60 Mark 1 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 2 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA)
47 mm  3 pdr QF Hotchkiss (Britain)
76 mm  3-inch Mark 10 (USA) · 3 inch Mk.33 (USA) · 3-inch Mk.34 (USA)
120 mm  4,7-inch/40 Armstrong (Britain)
127 mm  5 inch/38 Mk.12 (USA)
305 mm  12-inch/45 Vickers (Britain) · 12-inch/50 Vickers (Britain)

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