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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | The '''{{Specs | + | The '''{{Specs}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. |
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| + | On July 9, 1965, the management of the Corporation’s General Technical Department decided on the definition of a [[Mirage IIIE]] with a simplified layout. This low altitude tactical support and patrol aircraft was named the Mirage 5. In place of the radar, the nose cone was to be fitted with the electronic navigation and attack equipment, thereby providing space for extra fuel. | ||
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| + | More attachment points were provided for external loads, while the booster rocket was removed. The result was a less expensive aircraft, with 32% more fuel capacity than the [[Mirage IIIC]] and capable of carrying up to 14 bombs, not to mention a wealth of combinatory possibilities with numerous load configurations. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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{{Specs-Avia-Armour}} | {{Specs-Avia-Armour}} | ||
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| − | + | The Mirage 5F has no armor and can be critically damaged with just one short burst of enemy fire. Even if the Mirage survives, it will be highly damaged and some major components like the elevator or aileron controls will likely be destroyed. The Mirage has self-sealing fuel tanks located in the rear, front part of the wings, and the forward fuselage. | |
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}} | {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}} | ||
{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}} | {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}} | ||
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* Without load | * Without load | ||
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | * 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | + | Comparable to the Mirage 3C in performance, the 5F lacks some of the electronics and missiles that make those jets very competitive in aggressive fights. | |
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| + | Because of that, and its lack of countermeasures, the Mirage 5F's most important asset is retaining its speed. Since is a very fast aircraft, it is better used in a support role or doing passes around the map at high speeds, launching the missiles at priority targets that might be a threat to the Nesher or to save an ally from death. This good use of its ammunition is extremely important since the Nesher can only carry a maximum of 2 AAMs, one on each wing. Be careful, though, as the 2 Magic 1's are very short in range, take a second to arm, and suffer from a lot of drag. Its guns, while great and easy to aim, have a low muzzle velocity and work better at low speeds when it is easier to point the nose of the aircraft in the desired direction. But since they are 30 mm cannons, they will destroy any aircraft with a small burst, making them very reliable. | ||
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| + | Going for ground bases is a good option in the Mirage 5F. The Mirage 5F is capable of carrying enough bombs to destroy a full base and still carry 2 missiles for air-to-air combat. When doing this, flying at medium altitudes and then diving to the bases is very important to stay alive, because when flying to close to the ground the enemy SPAA around the map can easily destroy or severely damage your aircraft. At the moment of approaching the base, it is important to go in a dive or lower your altitude closer to the ground because the Nesher has no ballistic computer at all. Once the bombs are dropped, the Nesher may be capable of playing aggressive in the middle of the match, since at that point most fights would have already started and enemies would be distracted. Thus climbing to high altitudes or playing too cautiously may result in a defeat, since your allies would need you helping in the fight. | ||
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| + | The 5F energy retention is decent at best, so be careful when dogfighting and choose your opponents wisely. | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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| − | '' | + | The '''Mirage 5''' grew out of a request to Dassault from the Israeli Air Force. Since the weather over the Middle East is clear and sunny most of the time, the Israelis suggested removing avionics, normally located behind the cockpit, from the standard [[Mirage IIIE]] to reduce cost and maintenance, and replacing them with more fuel storage for attack missions. In September 1966, the Israelis placed an order for 50 units of the new aircraft. |
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| + | The first Mirage 5 flew on 19 May 1967. It looked much like the Mirage III, except it had a long slender nose that extended the aircraft's length by about half a metre. A pitot tube was distinctively moved from the tip of the nose to below the nose in the majority of Mirage 5 variants. Rising tensions in the Middle East led French President Charles de Gaulle to embargo the Israeli Mirage 5s on 3 June 1967. The Mirages continued to roll off the production line, even though they were embargoed, and by 1968 the batch was complete and the Israelis had provided final payments. | ||
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| + | In late 1969, the Israelis, who had pilots in France testing the aircraft, requested that the aircraft be transferred to Corsica, in theory to allow them to continue flight training during the winter. The French government became suspicious when the Israelis also tried to obtain long-range fuel tanks and cancelled the move. | ||
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| + | The Israelis finally gave up trying to get the aircraft and accepted a refund. Later however, cooperation with France resumed outside the public's eye and Israel received 50 '''Mirage 5s''' in crates from AdA, while Ada took over the 50 aircraft originally intended for Israel, as '''Mirage 5Fs'''.<sup>[''citation needed'']</sup> The aircraft were delivered between May 1971 and February 1974 and assembled by Israeli technicians.<sup>[''citation needed'']</sup> Officially, Israel claimed to have built the aircraft after obtaining complete blueprints, naming them [[Nesher]]. | ||
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| + | Like the Mirage IIIE, the Mirage 5 was popular with export customers, with different export variants fitted with a wide range of different avionics. While the Mirage 5 had been originally oriented to the clear-weather attack role, with some avionic fits it was refocused to the air-combat mission. As electronic systems became more compact and powerful, it was possible to provide the Mirage 5 with increased capability, even though the rear avionics bay had been deleted, therefore in some sub-versions, Dassault finished up with a "reinvented" Mirage IIIE. | ||
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| + | The Mirage 5 was sold to Abu Dhabi, Belgium, Colombia, Egypt, Gabon, Libya, Pakistan, Peru, Venezuela, and Zaire, with the usual list of subvariant designations and variations in kit. The Belgian aircraft were fitted with mostly US avionics, and Egyptian aircraft fitted with the MS2 attack avionics system from the Dassault-Dornier Alpha Jet. | ||
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
| − | * '' | + | * ''[[Mirage 5 (Family)|Mirage 5 family]]''. |
| − | * '' | + | * ''[[Matra R550 Magic 1|Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles used by the aircraft]]'' |
== External links == | == External links == | ||
Revision as of 06:10, 25 September 2023
| This page is about the French jet fighter Mirage 5F. For other versions, see Mirage 5 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The ' is a rank VII French jet fighter with a battle rating of 10.3 (AB) and 10.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Winged Lions".
On July 9, 1965, the management of the Corporation’s General Technical Department decided on the definition of a Mirage IIIE with a simplified layout. This low altitude tactical support and patrol aircraft was named the Mirage 5. In place of the radar, the nose cone was to be fitted with the electronic navigation and attack equipment, thereby providing space for extra fuel.
More attachment points were provided for external loads, while the booster rocket was removed. The result was a less expensive aircraft, with 32% more fuel capacity than the Mirage IIIC and capable of carrying up to 14 bombs, not to mention a wealth of combinatory possibilities with numerous load configurations.
General info
Flight performance
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 2,090 | 2,053 | 16000 | 29.9 | 30.6 | 109.7 | 99.7 | 750 |
| Upgraded | 2,233 | 2,160 | 26.3 | 28.0 | 172.5 | 140.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| X | X | X | ✓ | X | ✓ |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 1,460 | 426 | N/A | N/A | N/A | ~10 | ~4 |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 920 | < 750 | < 650 | N/A |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
| SNECMA Atar 9C | 1 | 7,250 kg | 300 kg/m2 | ||||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
| Weight (each) | Type | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 34m fuel | ||
| 1,450 kg | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | 7,934 kg | 8,577 kg | 9,241 kg | 9,531 kg | _,___ kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | ||||||
| Condition | 100% | WEP | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 34m fuel | MTOW |
| Stationary | 4,210 kgf | 6,110 kgf | 0.77 | 0.71 | 0.66 | 0.64 | _.__ |
| Optimal | 5,389 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
8,594 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
1.08 | 1.00 | 0.93 | 0.90 | _.__ |
Survivability and armour
The Mirage 5F has no armor and can be critically damaged with just one short burst of enemy fire. Even if the Mirage survives, it will be highly damaged and some major components like the elevator or aileron controls will likely be destroyed. The Mirage has self-sealing fuel tanks located in the rear, front part of the wings, and the forward fuselage.
Modifications and economy
| Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | ||||||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
| Ballistic Computer | |||
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| CCIP (Guns) | CCIP (Rockets) | CCIP (Bombs) | CCRP (Bombs) |
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Offensive armament
The Mirage 5F is armed with:
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (140 rpg = 280 total)
Suspended armament
The Mirage 5F can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |  | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 250 lb SAMP Mk 81 bombs | 1 | 1 | ||||||
| 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | |||
| 250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs | 1 | 2 | 1 | |||||
| 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | |||
| 400 kg SAMP Type 21 200 bombs | 1 | 2 | 1 | |||||
| FZ49 rockets | 7 | 7 | ||||||
| SNEB type 23 rockets | 18, 36 | 18, 36 | ||||||
| AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | 1 | 1 | ||||||
| AS-30 Nord missiles | 1 | |||||||
| Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | 1 | 1 | ||||||
| Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 1,500 kg | ||||||||
| Default weapon presets | |
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Usage in battles
Comparable to the Mirage 3C in performance, the 5F lacks some of the electronics and missiles that make those jets very competitive in aggressive fights.
Because of that, and its lack of countermeasures, the Mirage 5F's most important asset is retaining its speed. Since is a very fast aircraft, it is better used in a support role or doing passes around the map at high speeds, launching the missiles at priority targets that might be a threat to the Nesher or to save an ally from death. This good use of its ammunition is extremely important since the Nesher can only carry a maximum of 2 AAMs, one on each wing. Be careful, though, as the 2 Magic 1's are very short in range, take a second to arm, and suffer from a lot of drag. Its guns, while great and easy to aim, have a low muzzle velocity and work better at low speeds when it is easier to point the nose of the aircraft in the desired direction. But since they are 30 mm cannons, they will destroy any aircraft with a small burst, making them very reliable.
Going for ground bases is a good option in the Mirage 5F. The Mirage 5F is capable of carrying enough bombs to destroy a full base and still carry 2 missiles for air-to-air combat. When doing this, flying at medium altitudes and then diving to the bases is very important to stay alive, because when flying to close to the ground the enemy SPAA around the map can easily destroy or severely damage your aircraft. At the moment of approaching the base, it is important to go in a dive or lower your altitude closer to the ground because the Nesher has no ballistic computer at all. Once the bombs are dropped, the Nesher may be capable of playing aggressive in the middle of the match, since at that point most fights would have already started and enemies would be distracted. Thus climbing to high altitudes or playing too cautiously may result in a defeat, since your allies would need you helping in the fight.
The 5F energy retention is decent at best, so be careful when dogfighting and choose your opponents wisely.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good missiles; IR-guided Magics are very agile and have high G limits
- Hard hitting guns
- Decent loadout options
- Nimble attacker
Cons:
- Only two missiles
- Doesn't have access to laser-guided ordnance
- No flares or chaff of any kind
- Frequent uptiers against more capable jets
History
The Mirage 5 grew out of a request to Dassault from the Israeli Air Force. Since the weather over the Middle East is clear and sunny most of the time, the Israelis suggested removing avionics, normally located behind the cockpit, from the standard Mirage IIIE to reduce cost and maintenance, and replacing them with more fuel storage for attack missions. In September 1966, the Israelis placed an order for 50 units of the new aircraft.
The first Mirage 5 flew on 19 May 1967. It looked much like the Mirage III, except it had a long slender nose that extended the aircraft's length by about half a metre. A pitot tube was distinctively moved from the tip of the nose to below the nose in the majority of Mirage 5 variants. Rising tensions in the Middle East led French President Charles de Gaulle to embargo the Israeli Mirage 5s on 3 June 1967. The Mirages continued to roll off the production line, even though they were embargoed, and by 1968 the batch was complete and the Israelis had provided final payments.
In late 1969, the Israelis, who had pilots in France testing the aircraft, requested that the aircraft be transferred to Corsica, in theory to allow them to continue flight training during the winter. The French government became suspicious when the Israelis also tried to obtain long-range fuel tanks and cancelled the move.
The Israelis finally gave up trying to get the aircraft and accepted a refund. Later however, cooperation with France resumed outside the public's eye and Israel received 50 Mirage 5s in crates from AdA, while Ada took over the 50 aircraft originally intended for Israel, as Mirage 5Fs.[citation needed] The aircraft were delivered between May 1971 and February 1974 and assembled by Israeli technicians.[citation needed] Officially, Israel claimed to have built the aircraft after obtaining complete blueprints, naming them Nesher.
Like the Mirage IIIE, the Mirage 5 was popular with export customers, with different export variants fitted with a wide range of different avionics. While the Mirage 5 had been originally oriented to the clear-weather attack role, with some avionic fits it was refocused to the air-combat mission. As electronic systems became more compact and powerful, it was possible to provide the Mirage 5 with increased capability, even though the rear avionics bay had been deleted, therefore in some sub-versions, Dassault finished up with a "reinvented" Mirage IIIE.
The Mirage 5 was sold to Abu Dhabi, Belgium, Colombia, Egypt, Gabon, Libya, Pakistan, Peru, Venezuela, and Zaire, with the usual list of subvariant designations and variations in kit. The Belgian aircraft were fitted with mostly US avionics, and Egyptian aircraft fitted with the MS2 attack avionics system from the Dassault-Dornier Alpha Jet.
Media
- Skins
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
| Dassault Aviation | |
|---|---|
| WW2* | |
| Fighters | M.B.152C1 · M.B.157 |
| Bombers | M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T |
| Jet Aircraft | |
| M.D 450 | M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan |
| Mystère | M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA |
| Super Mystère | Super Mystere B2 |
| Étendard | Etendard IVM |
| Super Étendard | Super Etendard |
| Alpha Jet | Alpha Jet E** |
| Mirage | |
| Mirage III | Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan |
| Mirage V | Mirage 5F |
| Mirage F1 | Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT |
| Mirage 2000 | Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV |
| Mirage 4000 | Mirage 4000 |
| Export | |
| M.D 450 | M.D.450B Ouragan |
| Mystere | Mystere IVA |
| Super Mystère | Sambad · Sa'ar*** |
| Mirage | Shahak · ▄Mirage 5BA · ␗Mirage 2000-5Ei |
| *The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947 | |
| **Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke | |
| ***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine | |
| See also | SABCA |
| France jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2 |
| ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN) | |
| Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000 | |
| Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT | |
| Strike aircraft | ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE |
| Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E | |
| Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV | |
| Bombers | S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) |
| Belgium | ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM |
| Netherlands | ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6 |
