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''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''
  
 
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- One of the best accelerations at 9.0 due to afterburning engine.
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* Above average top speed and climb rate for 9.0
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* Turn rate is better than most enemies it faces
 
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* More ammo for cannons compared to MiG-15/17
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-More ammo for cannons compared to MiG-15/17
 
  
 
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* Rather bad roll rate at high speeds
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* Compresses at high speeds
 
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* Cannons are difficult to aim
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Revision as of 14:48, 17 June 2022

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This page is about the German jet fighter Lim-5P (Germany). For other versions, see MiG-17 (Family).
mig-17p_lim_5p.png
GarageImage Lim-5P (Germany).jpg
◊Lim-5P
AB RB SB
9.0 8.7 9.0
Research:160 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:450 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
Show in game

Description

The ◊Lim-5P is a rank VI German jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/SB) and 8.7 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Danger Zone". It is a Polish built MiG-17PF in East-German service.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 2 000 m1 114 km/h
Turn time21 s
Max altitude15 500 m
EngineKlimov VK-1
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight5 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at _,___ m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 15500 __._ __._ __._ __._ ___
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
_ _ _ _ _ _
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 450 ___ ___ ___ ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< ___ < ___ < ___ N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
_____ _ _,___ kg ___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel
___ kg ___ _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
Condition 100% ___%/WEP _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel MTOW
Stationary ___ kgf ___ kgf _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Optimal ___ kgf
(_ km/h)
___ kgf
(_ km/h)
_.__ _.__ _.__ _.__

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear450 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 079 → 4 439 Sl icon.png
RB8 783 → 12 665 Sl icon.png
SB9 576 → 13 808 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications144 200 Rp icon.png
229 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training130 000 Sl icon.png
Experts450 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces890 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
214 / 214 / 214 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
540 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
ns23_belt_pack
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods weapon.png
ns23_new_gun
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
29 000 Sl icon.png
540 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 13 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon
Ammunition300 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Main article: NR-23 (23 mm)

The Lim-5P (Germany) is armed with:

  • 3 x 23 mm NR-23 cannons, chin-mounted (100 rpg = 300 total)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

  • Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

  • One of the best accelerations at 9.0 due to afterburning engine.
  • Above average top speed and climb rate for 9.0
  • Turn rate is better than most enemies it faces
  • More ammo for cannons compared to MiG-15/17
  • Cons:
  • Rather bad roll rate at high speeds
  • Compresses at high speeds
  • Cannons are difficult to aim

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


PZL Mielec (Polskie Zakłady Lotnicze)
Jet Fighters  ◊Lim-5P
See also  Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau

Germany jet aircraft
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He 162  He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2
Me 163  Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0
Ho 229  Ho 229 V3
Ar 234  Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3
Me 262  Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a
  Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b
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Fighters  ◊MiG-15bis · ◊Lim-5P · ◊MiG-19S
  ◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M"
  ◊MiG-29
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  ◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4
  ◊IL-28
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F-84  ◄F-84F
F-86  ◄CL-13A Mk 5 · ◄CL-13B Mk.6 · ◄F-86K
F-104  ◄F-104G
F-4  ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV
G.91  ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4
Tornado  ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 · ◄Tornado IDS MFG · ◄Tornado IDS ASSTA1
Other  Alpha Jet A · ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100
Ex-LSK  ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◄MiG-29G · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61
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