PB4Y-2

This page is about the American bomber PB4Y-2. For other versions, see B-24/PB4Y (Family).

PB4Y-2

B-17E/L

B-17G-60-VE

PB4Y-2

B-17E/L

B-17G-60-VE

USA

III Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
4.7	4.7	5.7

Class:

Bomber

Long Range bomber

Research:40 000

Purchase:135 000

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Description

During the early stages of the Pacific war, the United States Navy pressed the largely unmodified B-24 Liberator into service as the "PB4Y-1 Liberator" to fulfilling their urgent need for long range maritime patrol aircraft. Observing these developments and the success of the PB4Y-1, the Consolidated Aircraft Company made a proposal to the US Navy in 1943 for a purpose-built maritime version of the Liberator, to which the US Navy accepted as it deemed the dedicated naval version of the Liberator to be a significant improvement. To accomplish its duty, the Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer featured several drastic changes compared to the original Liberator, most noticeably its lengthened fuselage to accommodate the flight engineer position to reduce the crew's overall fatigue in long range missions, and a tall single tail fin modified from the cancelled B-24N prototype of the USAAF as opposed to the twin tails of the Liberator, intended to give better stability at low altitudes. Other notable changes including the removal of superchargers from the engine to optimize them for maritime operations, as well as several changes in the arrangements of the defensive turret positions. The Privateer would enter service in late 1944 and go on to serve in various roles, such as maritime and ASW patrol, weather tracking, reconnaissance flight, and signal tracking with the US Navy until 1954, with some unarmed Privateers retired from the US Coast Guard four years later. In total, 739 Privateers were built, with some were supplied to France and Taiwan as a part of defensive pact.

Introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica", the PB4Y-2 Privateer is a maritime patrol/reconnaissance aircraft derived from the B-24 Liberator. With several changes to better fit its new roles such as the removal of superchargers and longer fuselage, the Privateer is noticeably much slower than the Liberator. High-altitude bombing is a struggle, as the engine loses output the higher it gets. As such, Privateer pilots will often be forced to descend to lower altitudes to get to the enemy bases, effectively exposing them to enemy's attention in the process. Since the plane would usually be flying at lower altitude, the Privateer comes with 14 Browning machine guns covering the upper portion of the plane as its defensive armaments. However, these turrets have a rather mediocre coverage at the rear and can be easily bypassed by enemy fighters at certain angles, especially below the plane.

Because of this, the only truly positive quality of the Privateer is its ridiculously heavy payload in the form of eight Type A naval mines, each with as much explosive as an average 1,000 kg bomb. Since these mines behave like a normal air-dropped bombs in-game (save for when being dropped into water), the Privateer can easily destroy several bases or level off enemy ground vehicles with ease, provided that you are not intercepted by enemy planes or shot down by anti-aircraft fire.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed

at 7 620 m404 km/h

Turn time38 s

Max altitude10 000 m

Engine4 х Pratt & Whitney R-1830-94

TypeRadial

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight29 t

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 7,620 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	385	369	10000	39.4	41.0	1.3	1.3	950
Upgraded	427	404		36.7	38.0	6.5	3.5

Since it is a heavy four-engine maritime bomber, the Privateer's manoeuvrability is unsurprisingly poor, it is also agonizingly slow, at nearly 100 km/h slower than the B-17E Flying Fortress (only 404 km/h top level speed). Its maximum speed in a dive is 580 km/h, and it has absolutely no chance of evading any of the fighters it might face using its speed or diving away. As a maritime patrol aircraft, the engines are optimized for low-level performance, thus its performance will suffer noticeably above 6,000 m while it can retain its energy gained form a dive reasonably well at below 3,000 m.

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear
X	✓	✓	X	X

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
599	263	N/A	360	263	~4	~2

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 200	< 180	< 180	> 300

Survivability and armour

Crew8 people

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear263 km/h

• 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of nose gunner
• 12.7 mm Steel plate in front of nose gunner
• 9.5 mm Steel plate underneath nose gunner
• 9.5 mm Steel plates behind pilots
• 9.5 mm Steel plates inside fuselage x 3
• 9.5 mm Steel plates behind and under radial engines
• 12.7 mm Steel plates behind dorsal gunners
• 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of beam gunners
• 9.5 and 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of beam gunners
• 55 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the tail gunner
• 9.5 mm Steel plate in front of the tail gunner

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB1 547 → 1 960

RB4 221 → 5 348

SB8 248 → 10 450

Total cost of modifications34 700

67 500

Talisman cost1 300

Crew training39 000

Experts135 000

Aces700

Research Aces390 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

90 / 180 / 420 %

154 / 154 / 154 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Fuselage repair Research: 1 700 Cost: 3 300 155 Radiator Research: 1 700 Cost: 3 300 155 Airframe Research: 1 600 Cost: 3 100 150 Compressor Research: 1 600 Cost: 3 100 150 Wings repair Research: 2 900 Cost: 5 600 270 Engine Research: 2 900 Cost: 5 600 270 Cover Research: 2 800 Cost: 5 500 260 Engine injection Research: 2 800 Cost: 5 500 260	Protective vest Research: 1 700 Cost: 3 300 155	SBC mk.I Research: 1 700 Cost: 3 300 155 bmg50_turret_belt_pack Research: 1 600 Cost: 3 100 150 LBC-24 Research: 1 600 Cost: 3 100 150 Mk 13 Mod 0 Research: 1 600 Cost: 3 100 150 FLBC mk.1 Research: 2 900 Cost: 5 600 270 bmg50_turret_new_gun Research: 2 800 Cost: 5 500 260 LBC-17 Research: 2 800 Cost: 5 500 260

The first priority for the Privateer pilots is to unlock its best payload; the naval mines, which can be unlocked early on by researching "Mk 13 Mod 0" modification at rank II. After this, you can either choose between flight performance or survivability upgrade. The other payload options is less effective compared to the mines and can be left until spaded.

Armaments

Suspended armament

List of setups (7)

Setup 120 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bomb

Setup 28 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb

Setup 34 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb

Setup 48 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb

Setup 58 x 1000 lbs Type A Mark I aircraft laid magnetic mine

Setup 64 x 1000 lbs Type A Mark I aircraft laid magnetic mine

Setup 74 x 2000 lb AN-M66A2 bomb

The PB4Y-2 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

• 20 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
• 8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)
• 4 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)
• 8 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (8,000 lb total)
• 4 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (8,000 lb total)
• 4 x Type A Mark I mines
• 8 x Type A Mark I mines

When stock, the Privateer is loaded with 20 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs, which are near useless at anything other than picking off light stationary targets. Fortunately, the Privateer gets its best payload option once you've researched the "Mk 13 Mod 0" modification at rank II: 8 x Type A Mark I naval mines, with 508 kg of TNT equivalent each (compared to 4 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs). This is the most potent payload for any American bomber until the B-29 Superfortress. These will do more damage to a base than the equivalent weight in 2,000 lb bombs that the B-17 Flying Fortress or B-24 Liberator can carry. Against ground targets, the Type A naval mine will work like an ordinary bomb (will explode upon ground contact after the fuse timer is up). Due to quantity of bombs and explosives, the Privateer can be used to either destroy the base or destroy a column of heavy vehicles.

Against naval targets, however, the naval mines will not explode when missed but instead armed itself underwater and wait for enemy contact. This reduces the overall effectiveness against stationary naval targets (as it requires a direct hit to trigger a detonation) but provides an additional use in naval battles, as you can lay these mines on various choke points and capture zones, as well as trapping any moving enemy vessel that comes too close to it.

Defensive armament

Turret2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun

Ammunition1200 rounds

Fire rate750 shots/min

2 х Turret2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun

Ammunition760 rounds

Fire rate750 shots/min

3 х Turret2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun

Ammunition800 rounds

Fire rate750 shots/min

The PB4Y-2 is defended by:

• 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, nose turret (600 rpg = 1,200 total)
• 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, 2 x dorsal turrets (380 rpg = 1,520 total)
• 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, 2 x beam turrets (400 rpg = 1,600 total)
• 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, tail turret (400 rpg = 800 total)

The PB4Y-2 features a large amount of .50 cal heavy machine guns as defensive armament. However, even when all of them can be brought to bear, it may not be sufficient to protect the bomber against determined or skilled fighter opposition. Only the tail turret can engage enemies attacking directly behind the Privateer, as the vertical stabilizer blocks the dorsal turrets (gunner dead-zone).

Usage in battles

There are two ways to play the Privateer. One of them is as a conventional heavy bomber, attempting to gain as much altitude as possible while utilizing cloud cover to evade enemy fighters. Unfortunately, the Privateer does not have very good high altitude performance, and it will struggle to climb to high altitude. This approach will also expose the aircraft to attacks from below, against which the Privateer has very little protection.

The other approach is to fly at very low altitude. This has two advantages: it makes it extremely difficult for enemies to attack from below, and the engines are optimized for this altitude. It will also tempt enemy fighters to dive on an "easy" target, which will, in turn, make them easy targets for your own fighters. Unfortunately, flying at low altitude will make the aircraft very vulnerable to anti-aircraft guns.

Shallow diving

Diving is probably the most risky way of trying to bomb but it is the quickest if you do it right. Start by spawning in then dive at about -10 degrees. This will make sure you will not overspeed before reaching the bombing point. However enemy interceptors with air spawn can potentially catch you in a head on, which is an extremely dangerous situation.

Steep diving

Upon spawning, dive at an angle of about -40 degrees. The PB4Y will gradually pick up speed to around 500 km/h. Once you reach 580 km/h, cut throttle to avoid over speeding. If you are close to the bomb base, turn into shallow diving or level out and prepare for the bombing. Once bombs are out, bank towards your airfield while keep diving, you should fly at no more than 100 m above the ground.

During an encounter with enemy aircraft, if you have time to adjust your position, try putting the enemy plane at your 10 / 2 o'clock. This way you can utilise up to 8 M2 Brownings scattered across your fuselage (2 x dorsal turrets, beam turret & nose turret) against the enemy, at the price of presenting a huge silhouette to it. This is a very dangerous tactic, but sometimes it is worth a try.

In general, when engaged by fighters, one should attempt to force them to attack from oblique angles from above. This will allow the largest amount of machine guns to engage the attacker. Only the rear turret can engage aircraft directly behind the Privateer; thus, one should turn the Privateer or use the rudder to "wag the tail" which will allow other gunner positions to engage tail-chasing fighters. Under no circumstances should the belly be exposed to enemy fire; it usually becomes quickly fatal for the bomber.

Enemies worth noting

• Do 335: this interceptor posts a huge threat to the PB4Y due to its destructive firepower. An experienced Do 335 player might open fire from a far distance of 2.5 km away, at this range its MK108/MK103 shells still have adequate accuracy and damage to cripple the PB4Y, while the PB4Y's Browning M2 can barely do any damage. The PB4Y's tail is also prone to being blown off by a few HE cannon shells.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer	Pitch	Radiator			Supercharger	Turbocharger
		Oil	Water	Type
Controllable	Controllable Auto control available	Not controllable Not auto controlled	Controllable Not auto controlled	Combined	Controllable 2 gears	Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Large payload (8 x naval mines) allows the plane to be used for area denial in ground and naval battles
• Great defensive coverage except from below
• Tricycle landing gear helps the plane to land without the risk of nosing over

Cons:

• Mediocre stock payload
• Mediocre survivability
• The tail can come off very easily due to enemy attacks, causing the destruction of the vehicle
• Extremely slow and sluggish, even for a heavy bomber
• Poor engine performance at high altitude (optimized for low altitude)
• Huge vertical stabiliser can be easily damaged
• Gear retraction and lowering is rather slow

History

The Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer was a heavy bomber & maritime patrol aircraft used by the United States Navy developed from the PB4Y-1, a minor modification of the B-24 Liberator used by the United States during WWII. The aircraft was a fully-navalized version of the B-24 featuring a taller single vertical stabilizer, a flight engineer's station and modified armament. The aircraft were used towards the end of the Second World War, and were used after the war as patrol aircraft by various countries. Some converted Privateers served as firefighters into the early 2000s; all aircraft are now retired from service, though two airframes are still fully airworthy.

The PB4Y-2 Privateer was a heavy modification on the previous PB4Y-1, which had been developed from the B-24 Liberator for the United States Navy and featured only minor changes from its air force cousin. The navy had been seeking a fully-navalized version of the B-24, and as a result, the aircraft featured numerous improvements over the previous PB4Y-1. The aircraft was similar in appearance to the B-24 but featured several defining features: first, the aircraft had a single vertical stabilizer compared to two smaller stabilizers on the B-24. The aircraft also had a longer fuselage accommodating a flight engineer's station, and a rebuilt armament suite consisting of twelve .50 caliber machine guns in two beam & dorsal turrets and one fore & aft turret. The ventral "ball" turret of the B-24 was removed, considering that the PB4Y was designed for low-altitude operations; the engine's superchargers were also removed for this purpose.

The Navy would eventually acquire 739 PB4Y-2 Privateers, though most of these aircraft arrived after the end of the war. The few aircraft that did serve during WWII provided maritime patrol and bombing capabilities. Notably, the aircraft dropped the ASM-N-2 Bat guided-bomb, similar to the German Fritz-X guided weapon, and was used with some success against Japanese vessels. For example, the Japanese coastal defence ship Aguni was damaged from a distance of 37 km by a Bat guided bomb dropped from a PB4Y Privateer. Effectively, the Bat was the first guided missile in United States service.

Following the end of the Second World War, the remaining PB4Ys were used as maritime patrol aircraft, patrol bombers and even hurricane hunters (several aircraft were lost in this role). The aircraft was used once again during the Korean War as a patrol bomber, and sold to both France and the Republic of China. All American PB4Ys were retired by 1954; small numbers of these aircraft were used as firefighting aircraft all the way until 2002, when a converted PB4Y disintegrated in mid-air while firefighting; as a result, the last of the firefighting PB4Ys were retired as well. Eight PB4Y-2 Privateers survive to this day, mostly in museums in the United States. Two aircraft are fully airworthy and a third is under restoration to become fully airworthy.

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the PB4Y-2 from live.warthunder.com.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

• reference to the series of the aircraft;
• links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

• [Devblog] PB4Y-2 Privateer: Pirate of the Skies
• Official data sheet - more details about the performance

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