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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]] as a reward for [[Battle Pass: Season III, "Strength athletics"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Hungarian light tank {{Battle-rating}} in the Italian tech tree. It was introduced during [[Update "Ixwa Strike"]] as a reward for [[Battle Pass: Season III, "Strength athletics"]].
  
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The Toldi IIA is a light tank of the Landsverk L-60 family, a license-built Hungarian variant of the Strv m/38, sporting a 40 mm 37/42M gun and better armour which allows it to stands its ground, but shares the same weaknesses as its Swedish counterpart.
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The Toldi IIA is a Hungarian light tank of World War II named after the popular Hungarian folklore character Toldi Miklós. Developed from the Toldi II in order to up-gun it with a more potent 40 mm gun. 80 Toldi IIs were modified into Toldi IIAs sporting 40 mm 37/42M guns, and these served on the Eastern Front fighting Soviet forces. The original Toldi I was based on and developed from the Landsverk L-60, and the Toldi II was an improved variant of the Toldi I, with better armour, which the Toldi IIA retains. This allows the Toldi IIA to stand its ground, but it shares some of the same weaknesses as its Swedish relatives.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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The hull of the Toldi IIA is quite similar to that of the [[strv m/40L]]. It is a very resistant hull at this battle rating, able to bounce several rounds if angled correctly. In terms of survivability, this vehicle does not perform well: ammo racks are positioned on the sides of the hull, which is a benefit against frontal shots but a disadvantage against side shots. The crew compartment is tight; a well-aimed shot to the center of the vehicle will knock it out.
  
 
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The Büssing NAG L8V/36TR is an engine capable of delivering 155 horsepower and manages to take the Toldi IIA to a top speed of 47 km/h. Unfortunately, the reverse is not as good, at only -5 km/h. This engine manages to make the Toldi IIA maintain a constant speed of at least 35 km/h on any terrain. The chassis is great for driving on all types of terrain that can be found in the game: sand, snow, mud and dirt.
  
 
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The main armament of the Toldi IIA is a 40 mm 37/42M cannon that can fire 3 different types of shells; APHEBC, HE, and APBC. It is recommended to use the 43M APBC shell as it is the most powerful; at its battle rating it is an excellent shell.
  
 
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| 36M || APHEBC || 60 || 57 || 48 || 39 || 31 || 25
 
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| 39M || HE || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3
 
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| 43M || APBC || 64 || 62 || 52 || 42 || 34 || 27
 
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
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| 36M || APHEBC || 800 || 0.9 || 1.2 || 9 || 15 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| 39M || HE || 800 || 0.86 || 0 || 0.1 || 63 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
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| 43M || APBC || 800 || 0.9 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
 
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* As they are modeled by sets of 3 to 5, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired all shells in the set.
 
* As they are modeled by sets of 3 to 5, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired all shells in the set.
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The Toldi IIA has a coaxial 8 mm 34/40M machine gun, excellent for eliminating the crew of light trucks and open vehicles such as SPAAs and SPGs. However, it should not be used against more armoured tanks as it won't be able to penetrate them.
  
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Toldi IIA is a very versatile light tank good for any situation on the battlefield. With its good speed, it can change positions effectively and quickly and with its decent mobility, it can afford to go and capture points first. With the limited protection of the Toldi IIA, it is recommended to adopt a playstyle more focused on spotting enemies and supporting fire for allies. But for more dynamic players, it can be used as a frontline vehicle to capture the points in the first line and help the advance of allies.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Incredibly fast reload, one of the best for its tier
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* Very short reload
 
* Shells have effective penetration
 
* Shells have effective penetration
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* Better armour than its Swedish counterpart Strv m/38
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* Good armour
 
* Good mobility and handling
 
* Good mobility and handling
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Shells may struggle against well-armoured tanks
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* Shells may struggle against heavily-armoured tanks
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* Only carries 55 rounds, which may not be enough in an intense battle
 
 
* Flat upper front armour plates are noticeable weak points
 
* Flat upper front armour plates are noticeable weak points
  
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=== Devblog ===
 
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[[File:Toldi IIa (3).png|thumb|Toldi IIa, lateral photo]]
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[[File:Toldi IIa (3).png|thumb|Toldi IIA, lateral photo]]
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[[File:Toldi IIa (2).png|thumb|Toldi IIa, frontal photo]]
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[[File:Toldi IIa (2).png|thumb|Toldi IIA, frontal photo]]
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After defeat in World War I, Hungary, like Germany, was prohibited from having its own army and armoured vehicles. However, like Germany, this ban didn't hold Hungary back for long. After purchasing small batches of Italian and German tanks, the Hungarian government announced its intention to select a foreign tank design to be deployed at domestic facilities. As a result of tests, preference was given to the Swedish light tank Landsverk L-60, which later entered service with Sweden under the designation Strv m/38. The tank was adapted to the types of guns and sights available to Hungary, the turret was slightly modified and launched into series under the name 38.M Toldi. The first series of Hungarian light tanks, built before April 1940, actively participated in combat - including heavy battles on the Eastern Front, where it showed itself completely indefensible against Soviet medium and heavy armoured vehicles. After two modernizations, the protection on the gun mantlet and the frontal projection of the hull was strengthened, and the 40mm cannon became the main weapon. Now the tank was completely produced from Hungarian components, but with the increased protection and increased calibre, the weight of the vehicle also increased, which subsequently affected its movement performance. Despite all efforts, the upgraded 38.M Toldi II and IIA tanks could no longer compete with the Soviet tanks of the second half of the war. Almost all tanks in the series were lost in battles or by technical failures, the last Toldi were destroyed in the battles for Budapest. The only surviving 38.M Toldi IIA tank is currently on display in the Patriot park near Kubinka, Moscow region.
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After defeat in World War I, Hungary, like Germany, was prohibited from having its own army and armoured vehicles. However, like Germany, this ban didn't hold Hungary back for long. After purchasing small batches of Italian and German tanks, the Hungarian government announced its intention to select a foreign tank design to be deployed at domestic facilities. As a result of tests, preference was given to the Swedish light tank Landsverk L-60, which later entered service with Sweden under the designation Strv m/38. The tank was adapted to the types of guns and sights available to Hungary, the turret was slightly modified and launched into series under the name 38.M Toldi. The first series of Hungarian light tanks, built before April 1940, actively participated in combat - including heavy battles on the Eastern Front, where it showed itself completely indefensible against Soviet medium and heavily armoured vehicles. After two modernizations, the protection on the gun mantlet and the frontal projection of the hull was strengthened, and the 40 mm cannon became the main weapon. Now the tank was completely produced from Hungarian components, but with the increased protection and increased calibre, the weight of the vehicle also increased, which subsequently affected its movement performance. Despite all efforts, the upgraded Toldi II and IIA tanks could no longer compete with the Soviet tanks of the second half of the war. Almost all tanks in the series were lost in battles or by technical failures, the last Toldis were destroyed in the battles for Budapest. The only surviving Toldi IIA tank is currently on display in the Patriot park near Kubinka, Moscow region.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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;Related development/Similar vehicles
  
 
* [[Strv m/38]]
 
* [[Strv m/38]]
 
* [[Strv m/39]]
 
* [[Strv m/39]]
 
* [[Strv m/40L]]
 
* [[Strv m/40L]]
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Other Hungarian vehicles
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* [[Csaba]]
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* [[Turan I|Turán I]]
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* [[Turan II|Turán II]]
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* [[Turan III|Turán III]]
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* [[Zrinyi I|Zrínyi I]]
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* [[Zrinyi II|Zrínyi II]]
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==

Latest revision as of 20:39, 23 June 2024

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Toldi IIA
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Toldi IIA
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Battle rating:
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Description

The Toldi IIA is a premium gift rank I Hungarian light tank with a battle rating of 1.3 (AB/RB/SB) in the Italian tech tree. It was introduced during Update "Ixwa Strike" as a reward for Battle Pass: Season III, "Strength athletics".

The Toldi IIA is a Hungarian light tank of World War II named after the popular Hungarian folklore character Toldi Miklós. Developed from the Toldi II in order to up-gun it with a more potent 40 mm gun. 80 Toldi IIs were modified into Toldi IIAs sporting 40 mm 37/42M guns, and these served on the Eastern Front fighting Soviet forces. The original Toldi I was based on and developed from the Landsverk L-60, and the Toldi II was an improved variant of the Toldi I, with better armour, which the Toldi IIA retains. This allows the Toldi IIA to stand its ground, but it shares some of the same weaknesses as its Swedish relatives.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull20 / 13 / 9
Turret33 / 13 / 13
Crew3 people
Visibility68 %

The hull of the Toldi IIA is quite similar to that of the strv m/40L. It is a very resistant hull at this battle rating, able to bounce several rounds if angled correctly. In terms of survivability, this vehicle does not perform well: ammo racks are positioned on the sides of the hull, which is a benefit against frontal shots but a disadvantage against side shots. The crew compartment is tight; a well-aimed shot to the center of the vehicle will knock it out.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 20 mm (56°) Upper glacis
13 mm (46°) Lower glacis
23 mm (25°) Upper plate
23 mm (13-19°) Driver bulge 		13 mm (15°) 9 mm (19°) Top
9 mm (28°) Bottom 		5 mm
Turret 13 mm (14°) Turret front
33 mm (2°) Gun mantlet 		13 mm (15°) 13 mm (17-25°) 7 mm
Cupola 13 mm (13°) 13 mm (10-15°) 13 mm (17°) 5 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels, tracks and torsion bars are 15 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB52 / 7 km/h
RB and SB47 / 6 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight9.3 t
Engine power
AB296 hp
RB and SB155 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB31.8 hp/t
RB and SB16.7 hp/t

The Büssing NAG L8V/36TR is an engine capable of delivering 155 horsepower and manages to take the Toldi IIA to a top speed of 47 km/h. Unfortunately, the reverse is not as good, at only -5 km/h. This engine manages to make the Toldi IIA maintain a constant speed of at least 35 km/h on any terrain. The chassis is great for driving on all types of terrain that can be found in the game: sand, snow, mud and dirt.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 52 7 9.3 240 296 25.81 31.83
Realistic 47 6 137 155 14.73 16.67

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB410 Sl icon.png
RB218 Sl icon.png
SB225 Sl icon.png
Crew training450 Sl icon.png
Experts3 000 Sl icon.png
Aces45 Ge icon.png
Research Aces220 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 20 / 20 / 30 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 100 / 100 / 100 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Tracks
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Mods tank reinforcement it.png
Crew Replenishment
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Mods tank ammo.png
40mm_hung_APBC_ammo_pack
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support

Armaments

Main armament

40 mm 37/42M cannon
Ammunition55 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
3.6 → 2.8 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 20°
Main article: 37/42M (40 mm)
40 mm 37/42M Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 55 -10°/+20° ±180° N/A 15.2 21.1 25.6 28.3 30.1 3.64 3.22 2.97 2.80
Realistic 9.5 11.2 13.6 15.0 16.0

The main armament of the Toldi IIA is a 40 mm 37/42M cannon that can fire 3 different types of shells; APHEBC, HE, and APBC. It is recommended to use the 43M APBC shell as it is the most powerful; at its battle rating it is an excellent shell.

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
36M APHEBC 62 60 51 42 34 28
39M HE 8 8 7 6 5 4
43M APBC 72 69 60 50 42 35
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
36M APHEBC 800 0.97 1.2 9 17 48° 63° 71°
39M HE 800 0.97 0.1 0.1 63 79° 80° 81°
43M APBC 800 1.05 - - - 47° 60° 65°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Toldi IIA
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
55 36 (+19) 31 (+24) 21 (+34) 11 (+44) 1 (+54) No

Note:

  • As they are modeled by sets of 3 to 5, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired all shells in the set.

Machine guns

8 mm 34/40M machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition3 200 rounds
Belt capacity100 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate900 shots/min
Main article: 34/40M (8 mm)

The Toldi IIA has a coaxial 8 mm 34/40M machine gun, excellent for eliminating the crew of light trucks and open vehicles such as SPAAs and SPGs. However, it should not be used against more armoured tanks as it won't be able to penetrate them.

8 mm 34/40M
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 3,200 (100) 900 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The Toldi IIA is a very versatile light tank good for any situation on the battlefield. With its good speed, it can change positions effectively and quickly and with its decent mobility, it can afford to go and capture points first. With the limited protection of the Toldi IIA, it is recommended to adopt a playstyle more focused on spotting enemies and supporting fire for allies. But for more dynamic players, it can be used as a frontline vehicle to capture the points in the first line and help the advance of allies.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very short reload
  • Shells have effective penetration
  • Good armour
  • Good mobility and handling

Cons:

  • Shells may struggle against heavily-armoured tanks
  • Flat upper front armour plates are noticeable weak points

History

Devblog

Toldi IIA, lateral photo
Toldi IIA, frontal photo

After defeat in World War I, Hungary, like Germany, was prohibited from having its own army and armoured vehicles. However, like Germany, this ban didn't hold Hungary back for long. After purchasing small batches of Italian and German tanks, the Hungarian government announced its intention to select a foreign tank design to be deployed at domestic facilities. As a result of tests, preference was given to the Swedish light tank Landsverk L-60, which later entered service with Sweden under the designation Strv m/38. The tank was adapted to the types of guns and sights available to Hungary, the turret was slightly modified and launched into series under the name 38.M Toldi. The first series of Hungarian light tanks, built before April 1940, actively participated in combat - including heavy battles on the Eastern Front, where it showed itself completely indefensible against Soviet medium and heavily armoured vehicles. After two modernizations, the protection on the gun mantlet and the frontal projection of the hull was strengthened, and the 40 mm cannon became the main weapon. Now the tank was completely produced from Hungarian components, but with the increased protection and increased calibre, the weight of the vehicle also increased, which subsequently affected its movement performance. Despite all efforts, the upgraded Toldi II and IIA tanks could no longer compete with the Soviet tanks of the second half of the war. Almost all tanks in the series were lost in battles or by technical failures, the last Toldis were destroyed in the battles for Budapest. The only surviving Toldi IIA tank is currently on display in the Patriot park near Kubinka, Moscow region.

Media

Skins
Videos
Battle Pass: Strength Athletics discusses the Toldi IIA at 00:33 - War Thunder Official Channel

See also

Related development/Similar vehicles

Other Hungarian vehicles

External links


Italy light tanks
  Italy
L6/40  L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.)
M11/39  M11/39
Autoblindo  AB 41 · AB 43
Fiat 6614/6616  FIAT 6614 · AUBL/74 · AUBL/74 HVG
R3 Capraia  R3 T106 FA
Centauro  Centauro I 105 · Centauro I 105 R · Centauro I 120 · Centauro RGO · VRCC
Freccia  VBC (PT2) · Freccia
Dardo  Dardo · VCC-80/60 · VCC-80/30
Other  C13 T90
USA  ▄M3A3 · ▄M24 · ▄M18
  Hungary
WWII  Csaba · Toldi IIA
Post  ◔BTR-80A · KF41

Italy premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  L6/40 (31 Rgt.) · Toldi IIA · AUBL/74 HVG · VRCC · Centauro RGO
Medium tanks  M13/40 (II) · Turan II · M14/41 (47/40) · Celere Sahariano · P40 "G.C. Leoncello" · ▄Sherman I Composito · ▄Pz.IV G
  M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete" · OF-40 (MTCA)
Heavy tanks  Tigris
Tank destroyers  Breda 90/53 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · Zrinyi I

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