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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''', also known as Panhard 178, was a 4x4 French reconnaissance armoured car, usually equipped with a 25 mm autocannon. In 1939, a version of the Panhard was unveiled, featuring a 47 mm SA35 cannon, intended to increase the anti-tank capabilities of the vehicle. Not many vehicles received this modification however, instead most SA35 cannons were intended for the Char B and Char D2 series of tanks. Instead, in 1940, Panhard proposed a version of the vehicle with a rearward-facing 47 mm SA37 gun. Due to the increasingly deteriorating situation on the front, the single prototype had to be abandoned and destroyed by its crew, although it managed to see action with the ''1er RAM'', defending a bridge near Etignie. |
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| + | It was introduced during [[Update "Sky Guardians"]] as a reward for the [[wt:en/news/8186-event-repair-factory-en|"Repair Factory" event]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is very poorly protected, it can be even penetrated by HMG fire from distances above 500 m from the sides. This vehicle uses its mobility as its armour, however, while it has good mobility while on the road, its wheeled design makes it suffer on rough terrain. It has a quite decent gun, with good penetrating power for its BR, it is capable of dealing with most medium and light tanks that are common at rank I, like the [[BT-7]] and the [[Panzer III (Family)|Panzer III]], though it might struggle against heavier opponents in uptiers. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ||
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| − | | Hull || 20 mm (22°) | + | | Hull || 20 mm (22°) ''Upper plate'' <br> 15 mm (66°) ''Upper glacis'' <br> 26 mm ''Lower plate'' <br> 15 mm (38°) ''Lower glacis'' || 15 mm ''Hull side'' <br> 20 mm ''Driver viewport'' || 15 mm (23°) ''Crew compartment'' <br> 15 mm (2°) ''Rear plate'' <br> 15 mm (44°) ''Lower glacis'' || 15 mm (24°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 7 mm ''Crew compartment'' <br> 7 mm (8°) ''Engine compartment'' |
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| − | | Turret || 26 mm (47°) | + | | Turret || 26 mm (47°) ''Turret front'' <br> 45+20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 15 mm (12-21°) || 15 mm (11°) || 7 mm (7°) |
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | The AMD.35 (SA35) is best thought of as an armoured car with | + | The AMD.35 (SA35) is best thought of as an armoured car with an adequate gun. Although it has poor armour protection, like most armoured cars, it is mobile, lethal, and surprisingly survivable. |
| − | Its gun is a 47 mm cannon with adequate penetration values. This weapon will have no problem dealing with | + | Its gun is a 47 mm cannon with adequate penetration values. This weapon will have no problem dealing with most enemies at this rank. Just try to stay under 300 m of range, or else there may be significant deviation in the rounds. However, be aware that the post-penetration damage is quite small so it is advisable to aim for critical components such as the breech or the gunner first. It's also important to note the lack of a machine gun, which can become a problem when facing SPAA and other lightly armoured vehicles, and so bringing a few HE shells is necessary to deal with them in a timely manner. |
| − | The AMD.35 | + | The AMD.35 has a great speed advantage on roads and paved surfaces. However, it has poor mobility on soft terrain, and struggles to go uphill. Even when driving on roads, quick turns cause the vehicle to lose much speed. Finally, the AMD.35 has quite ineffective brakes. It is recommended that the tanker use the AMD.35's great on-road speed to quickly attain a firing position at the beginning of a match, and move quickly around the map to avoid detection. If a good firing position is found, then the AMD.35 will be able to utilise its cannon to great effect. |
'''Enemies worth noting:''' | '''Enemies worth noting:''' | ||
| − | * [[Pz.II (Family)|Pz.II]] | + | * [[Pz.II (Family)|Pz.II]] and other tanks with autocannons can shred your armour and the modules behind it. Generally, it is advised not to engage head on but if you are forced to, then make sure you get off the first shot before they start spraying. |
| − | * [[:Category:Anti-aircraft vehicles|SPAAs]] | + | * [[:Category:Anti-aircraft vehicles|SPAAs]] - Nearly every anti-aircraft vehicle at the rank will be able to penetrate and destroy the AMD.35 with ease. Not to mention that SPAAs guns have high rates of fire. As with any other vehicles, it is advised to shoot first. Certain SPAAs which are commonly underestimated like the French [[P.7.T AA]], and [[CCKW 353 AA]] and the American [[M15 CGMC]], and should be especially noted, as despite not having 20 mm autocannons like their Axis counterparts, they all have weapons capable of efficiently knocking out an AMD.35. |
| − | * | + | * The [[Matilda III]], [[SU-122]], [[T-50]] and some other tanks can have over 50 mm of armour which is is thick enough to stop you from penetrating them from front or even from the sides. It's advised to avoid engaging them from the front and instead marking them on the map for your teammates to deal with or attacking them from the side or back while they are distracted. The [[Matilda (Family)|Matilda]]'s and [[Valentine (Family)|Valentine]]'s should be noted as they are practically invulnerable to your cannon. |
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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* High crew count and good survivability | * High crew count and good survivability | ||
* Adequate gun depression | * Adequate gun depression | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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* Slow turret rotation and gun elevation | * Slow turret rotation and gun elevation | ||
* Lightly armoured flanks and rear | * Lightly armoured flanks and rear | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
Latest revision as of 13:23, 26 February 2024
| This page is about the premium French light tank AMD.35 (SA35). For other versions, see AMD.35 (Family). |
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Contents
Description
The AMD.35 (SA35), also known as Panhard 178, was a 4x4 French reconnaissance armoured car, usually equipped with a 25 mm autocannon. In 1939, a version of the Panhard was unveiled, featuring a 47 mm SA35 cannon, intended to increase the anti-tank capabilities of the vehicle. Not many vehicles received this modification however, instead most SA35 cannons were intended for the Char B and Char D2 series of tanks. Instead, in 1940, Panhard proposed a version of the vehicle with a rearward-facing 47 mm SA37 gun. Due to the increasingly deteriorating situation on the front, the single prototype had to be abandoned and destroyed by its crew, although it managed to see action with the 1er RAM, defending a bridge near Etignie.
It was introduced during Update "Sky Guardians" as a reward for the "Repair Factory" event. The AMD.35 (SA35) is very poorly protected, it can be even penetrated by HMG fire from distances above 500 m from the sides. This vehicle uses its mobility as its armour, however, while it has good mobility while on the road, its wheeled design makes it suffer on rough terrain. It has a quite decent gun, with good penetrating power for its BR, it is capable of dealing with most medium and light tanks that are common at rank I, like the BT-7 and the Panzer III, though it might struggle against heavier opponents in uptiers.
General info
Survivability and armour
Armourfront / side / back
Hull20 / 15 / 15
Turret26 / 15 / 15
Crew4 people
Visibility77 %
Being an armoured car, the AMD.35 (SA35) has poor protection, as the vehicle is only protected against rifle-calibre MG fire. The sides are easily penetrated by heavy MG fire, but unlike most armoured cars the AMD.35 (SA35) has enough frontal armour to survive most heavy MG fire from a distance above 500 m and practically all heavy MG fire to the front of the turret.
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret)
- Wheel (tires)
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | 20 mm (22°) Upper plate 15 mm (66°) Upper glacis 26 mm Lower plate 15 mm (38°) Lower glacis |
15 mm Hull side 20 mm Driver viewport |
15 mm (23°) Crew compartment 15 mm (2°) Rear plate 15 mm (44°) Lower glacis |
15 mm (24°) Front glacis 7 mm Crew compartment 7 mm (8°) Engine compartment |
| Turret | 26 mm (47°) Turret front 45+20 mm Gun mantlet |
15 mm (12-21°) | 15 mm (11°) | 7 mm (7°) |
Notes:
- Wheels are 10 mm thick.
- Storage boxes and mudguards are 5 mm thick
- Belly armour is 7 mm thick.
- The cupola is just a ventilation cupola and 7 mm thick.
- Internal plates (7 mm thick) separate the crew compartment from the engine compartment, as well as the engine compartment in half and cover the commander from the top and the rear.
Mobility
Reverse gearbox
Forward and backward movement is possible at the same maximum speed
Speedforward / back
AB80 / 47 km/h
RB and SB72 / 43 km/h
Number of gears4 forward
4 back
Weight8.2 t
Engine power
AB200 hp
RB and SB105 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB24.4 hp/t
RB and SB12.8 hp/t
The AMD.35 (SA35) can reach really good high speeds on road, but has poor cross-country performance. Notably, its wheeled configuration means the car will not get accurate fire when on the move and it will turn in an arc. Meanwhile, its good reverse speed can possibly save the car from an unfortunate encounter.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 80 | 47 | 8.2 | 163 | 200 | 19.88 | 24.39 |
| Realistic | 72 | 43 | 93 | 105 | 11.34 | 12.8 | |
Modifications and economy
Repair cost
AB438 
RB338
SB691
Crew training450
Experts3 000
Aces45 
Research Aces220 000 
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
2 × 20 / 20 / 30 % 2 × 100 / 100 / 100 % | Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Main armament
Ammunition30 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
3.9 → 3.0 s
Vertical guidance-12° / 20°
| 47 mm SA35 L/32 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 30 | -12°/+20° | ±180° | - | 23.8 | 32.9 | 40.0 | 44.2 | 47.1 | 3.90 | 3.45 | 3.18 | 3.00 |
| Realistic | 14.9 | 17.5 | 21.3 | 23.5 | 25.0 | ||||||||
Ammunition
The AMD.35 (SA35) has a limited choice of ammunition:
- Mle1935: APC; a solid shot with average penetration and no explosive filler. Make sure to target modules and crew positions to maximise the damage. Knowledge of enemy vehicle layouts is essential with this type of ammunition.
- Mle1935 HE: HE; useful for destroying open and very lightly armoured vehicles, pack 3-2 HE shells due to a lack of a coaxial machine gun.
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| Mle1935 | APC | 62 | 59 | 47 | 36 | 27 | 20 |
| Mle1935 HE | HE | 6 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| Mle1935 | APC | 660 | 1.62 | - | - | - | 48° | 63° | 71° | |||
| Mle1935 HE | HE | 590 | 1.41 | 0.1 | 0.1 | 143 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
Ammo racks
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Ammo racks of the AMD.35 (SA35)
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|
| 30 | 1 (+29) | No |
Notes:
- Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
- Recommended ammo load is the full 30 as the ammo capacity is already limited.
Usage in battles
The AMD.35 (SA35) is best thought of as an armoured car with an adequate gun. Although it has poor armour protection, like most armoured cars, it is mobile, lethal, and surprisingly survivable.
Its gun is a 47 mm cannon with adequate penetration values. This weapon will have no problem dealing with most enemies at this rank. Just try to stay under 300 m of range, or else there may be significant deviation in the rounds. However, be aware that the post-penetration damage is quite small so it is advisable to aim for critical components such as the breech or the gunner first. It's also important to note the lack of a machine gun, which can become a problem when facing SPAA and other lightly armoured vehicles, and so bringing a few HE shells is necessary to deal with them in a timely manner.
The AMD.35 has a great speed advantage on roads and paved surfaces. However, it has poor mobility on soft terrain, and struggles to go uphill. Even when driving on roads, quick turns cause the vehicle to lose much speed. Finally, the AMD.35 has quite ineffective brakes. It is recommended that the tanker use the AMD.35's great on-road speed to quickly attain a firing position at the beginning of a match, and move quickly around the map to avoid detection. If a good firing position is found, then the AMD.35 will be able to utilise its cannon to great effect.
Enemies worth noting:
- Pz.II and other tanks with autocannons can shred your armour and the modules behind it. Generally, it is advised not to engage head on but if you are forced to, then make sure you get off the first shot before they start spraying.
- SPAAs - Nearly every anti-aircraft vehicle at the rank will be able to penetrate and destroy the AMD.35 with ease. Not to mention that SPAAs guns have high rates of fire. As with any other vehicles, it is advised to shoot first. Certain SPAAs which are commonly underestimated like the French P.7.T AA, and CCKW 353 AA and the American M15 CGMC, and should be especially noted, as despite not having 20 mm autocannons like their Axis counterparts, they all have weapons capable of efficiently knocking out an AMD.35.
- The Matilda III, SU-122, T-50 and some other tanks can have over 50 mm of armour which is is thick enough to stop you from penetrating them from front or even from the sides. It's advised to avoid engaging them from the front and instead marking them on the map for your teammates to deal with or attacking them from the side or back while they are distracted. The Matilda's and Valentine's should be noted as they are practically invulnerable to your cannon.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- High straight-line top speed on paved surfaces
- Excellent reverse gear
- Adequate penetration and shell velocity
- Quick reload speed
- High crew count and good survivability
- Adequate gun depression
Cons:
- Poor cross-country performance
- Weak brakes
- Slow turret rotation and gun elevation
- Lightly armoured flanks and rear
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).
Media
- Skins
See also
- Related development
External links
| Panhard | |
|---|---|
| Armoured Cars | AML-90 |
| AMD.35 | AMD.35 · AMD.35 (SA35) |
| E.B.R. | E.B.R. (1951) · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) |
| Export | AML-90 |
| France light tanks | |
|---|---|
| AMC.34/35 | AMC.34 YR · AMC.35 (ACG.1) |
| H.35/39 | H.35 · H.39 · H.39 "Cambronne" |
| AMX-13 | AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT) |
| Wheeled | AML-90 · AMX-10RC · Vextra 105 |
| AMD.35 | AMD.35 · AMD.35 (SA35) |
| E.B.R. | E.B.R. (1951) · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) |
| Other | FCM.36 · R.35 (SA38) · Char 25t · MARS 15 · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
| Austria | SK-105A2 |
| Great Britain | ▄Crusader Mk.II |
| Netherlands | CV 9035NL |
| USA | LVT-4/40 · ▄M3A3 Stuart |
| France premium ground vehicles | |
|---|---|
| Light tanks | AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
| Medium tanks | M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930) |
| Heavy tanks | B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM |
| Tank destroyers | Lorraine 155 Mle.50 |
