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Combining the speed and handling of the Do 217 and the immense payload of the Lancaster along with defensive armament approaching that of the American bombers, the He 177 Greif is an outstanding heavy bomber. Its max payload of 2 x 1,800 kg and 6 x 500 kg bombs is easily the best of its contemporaries when it comes to demolishing bases in AB and airfields in RB/SB. Other payloads are quite useful depending on the bombing objectives in RB/SB : 6 x 500 kg against bases (3 per bases), 4 x 1000 kg and 2 x 1800 kg for aircraft carriers and airfields.
 
Combining the speed and handling of the Do 217 and the immense payload of the Lancaster along with defensive armament approaching that of the American bombers, the He 177 Greif is an outstanding heavy bomber. Its max payload of 2 x 1,800 kg and 6 x 500 kg bombs is easily the best of its contemporaries when it comes to demolishing bases in AB and airfields in RB/SB. Other payloads are quite useful depending on the bombing objectives in RB/SB : 6 x 500 kg against bases (3 per bases), 4 x 1000 kg and 2 x 1800 kg for aircraft carriers and airfields.
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Development of the He 177 began in 1936 as part of the Bomber A specifications issued by the German Air Ministry (RLM). The specifications called for a long range, high speed bomber with a payload of 1,000 kg. Despite the very demanding specifications, Heinkel began working on a mockup which was submitted for review in late 1937, with an order for 12 experimental machines following shortly after in early 1939. However, throughout its development, the He 177 suffered from a range of problems, some of which weren’t even fixed before further development stopped. For example, one of the requirements (which was soon rejected, since it was impossible to implement) from the Air Ministry was the ability to bomb from a dive, that’s why the engineers had to make various workarounds to provide the required flight technical characteristics. To reduce aerodynamic drag and to ensure flight range, two DB 601 engines were installed in pairs on one gondola and worked with a common shaft which rotated one four bladed propeller. Thanks to this it was possible to create the aircraft using a two-engined scheme. But for this reason, the vehicle suffered from severe engine overheating issues and more often than not experienced mid-flight engine failures and frequent fires. In the process of fine tuning the aircraft, the weight was significantly increased, so it became necessary to install a massive frame which could not be hidden - a relatively thin wing or tightly packed nacelles wouldn't fit. As a result, each frame was divided into two racks, each with a single wheel that could be retracted into the wing on opposite sides of the nacelle.
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By 1944, development of the He 177 was considered finished, but by that time, the fortune of war had already turned on Germany and the need for a complex strategic bomber had faded. Nonetheless, over 1,000 He 177s were produced across several variants, with most machines seeing action on the Eastern front. However, despite being made in large numbers, the aircraft ultimately failed to make a difference in the war’s outcome as its design maturity came too late, although some of the built vehicles were also used after war’s end.
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5356-development-heinkel-he-177-a-5-greif-the-flaming-arrow-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Heinkel He 177 A-5 Greif: The Flaming Arrow]
  
 
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He 177 A-5
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He 177 A-5
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Description

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The He 177 A-5 Greif is a Rank IV German heavy bomber with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB/SB) and 5.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" as part of the revenue share program. It was created by Daniil "Joy_Division__ Zaytsev.

The Heinkel He 177 A-5 is a heavy bomber that excels at destroying stationary targets such as pillboxes and bases from altitude. Its speed allows to bomb one base or two before confronting any enemy plane and then withdrawing back in shallow dive. Even if an enemy is trying to intercept you, your defensive armament in manual mode would keep it at bay.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 6,500 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 10,000  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.? 1,600
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 6,500 m) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 10,000  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.? 1,600

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
+ -
 ???  ???  ??? ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m  ??? hp  ?,??? hp

Survivability and armour

  • 9 mm Steel plates in pilot’s seat.
  • 7 mm Steel plate under entire cockpit
  • 9 mm Steel plate in front of front dorsal gunner.
  • 7 mm Steel plates on cockpit roof around front dorsal gunner.
  • 7 mm Steel plates around rear dorsal gunner.
  • 7 mm Steel box in front of rear dorsal gunner.
  • 57 mm Bulletproof glass in front of tail gunner.
  • 9 mm Steel plates around the bottom and front of tail gunner.

Armaments

Suspended armament

Main article: Suspended armaments

The He 177 A-5 can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

  • 48 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (2,400 kg total)
  • 12 x 250 kg SC250JA bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 6 x 500 kg SC500K bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 4 x 1,000 kg SC1000L2 bombs (4,000 kg total)
  • 2 x 1,800 kg SC1800B bombs (2,700 kg total)
  • 2 x 1,800 kg SC1800B bombs + 6 x 500 kg SC500K bombs (4,200 kg total)
  • 3 x 1,400 kg PC 1400 X (Fritz X) bombs (4,200 kg total)

Defensive armament

Main articles: MG 151/20 (20 mm), MG 81 (7.92 mm)

The He 177 A-5 can defend itself with:

  • 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, chin turret (300 rpg)
  • 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, tail turret (800 rpg)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, front dorsal turret (1,000 rpg = 2,000 rpg)
  • 1 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, rear dorsal turret (1,000 rpg)
  • 1 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, ventral turret (1,000 rpg)
  • 1 x 7.92 mm MG 81 machine gun, nose turret (1,000 rpg)

Usage in battles

Combining the speed and handling of the Do 217 and the immense payload of the Lancaster along with defensive armament approaching that of the American bombers, the He 177 Greif is an outstanding heavy bomber. Its max payload of 2 x 1,800 kg and 6 x 500 kg bombs is easily the best of its contemporaries when it comes to demolishing bases in AB and airfields in RB/SB. Other payloads are quite useful depending on the bombing objectives in RB/SB : 6 x 500 kg against bases (3 per bases), 4 x 1000 kg and 2 x 1800 kg for aircraft carriers and airfields.

The He 177 bears some similarities to the Do 217 series. It has an exceptionally high dive speed for a heavy bomber, and is capable of reaching up to 700 km/h in a dive. It is however more maneuverable at high speeds, one has to be careful not to overload the wings. The two engines (which are really two V12 DB 605 engines coupled together to drive one four-bladed propeller, making them essentially 24 cylinder engines) are very powerful, but at the same time more vulnerable to damage.

The defensive armament of the Greif is very good by German standards, consisting primarily of 13 mm MG 131 heavy machine guns, completed with 2 MG 151/20 cannons, one in front and one in tail turret. The large tail fin prevents the dorsal turrets from firing directly to the rear, leaving only the MG 151/20, however.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable Not controllable Not controllable Separate Not ontrollable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Turret 7 mm ETC 250/IV Turret 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs (turret) ETC 500/II
III Wing Repair Engines Turret 13 mm ETC 1000/I New 20 mm cannons (turret)
IV Engine Injection Cover New 13 mm MGs (turret) ETC 1800 FX 1400

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Heavy defensive weaponry
  • Plenty of bomb load options
  • Large bomb bay: can house four 1,000 kg bombs
  • One of only three heavy bombers for Germany, and the only high rank heavy bomber in the tech tree
  • Capable of speeds of up to 530 km/h or 340 mph in level flight
  • Good climb rate
  • Dual engine aerodynamic, make it quite manoevrable for a heavy bomber

Cons:

  • Plane is vulnerable in frontal engagement due to absence of copilot and the glazed nose
  • Engines overheat very quickly when activating WEP rate
  • Landing gear takes a long time to deploy and retract
  • Engines overheat quickly when cooling system is empty
  • Vulnerable on the sides
  • No airbrakes

History

Development of the He 177 began in 1936 as part of the Bomber A specifications issued by the German Air Ministry (RLM). The specifications called for a long range, high speed bomber with a payload of 1,000 kg. Despite the very demanding specifications, Heinkel began working on a mockup which was submitted for review in late 1937, with an order for 12 experimental machines following shortly after in early 1939. However, throughout its development, the He 177 suffered from a range of problems, some of which weren’t even fixed before further development stopped. For example, one of the requirements (which was soon rejected, since it was impossible to implement) from the Air Ministry was the ability to bomb from a dive, that’s why the engineers had to make various workarounds to provide the required flight technical characteristics. To reduce aerodynamic drag and to ensure flight range, two DB 601 engines were installed in pairs on one gondola and worked with a common shaft which rotated one four bladed propeller. Thanks to this it was possible to create the aircraft using a two-engined scheme. But for this reason, the vehicle suffered from severe engine overheating issues and more often than not experienced mid-flight engine failures and frequent fires. In the process of fine tuning the aircraft, the weight was significantly increased, so it became necessary to install a massive frame which could not be hidden - a relatively thin wing or tightly packed nacelles wouldn't fit. As a result, each frame was divided into two racks, each with a single wheel that could be retracted into the wing on opposite sides of the nacelle.

By 1944, development of the He 177 was considered finished, but by that time, the fortune of war had already turned on Germany and the need for a complex strategic bomber had faded. Nonetheless, over 1,000 He 177s were produced across several variants, with most machines seeing action on the Eastern front. However, despite being made in large numbers, the aircraft ultimately failed to make a difference in the war’s outcome as its design maturity came too late, although some of the built vehicles were also used after war’s end.

- From Devblog

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Germany bombers
Arado  Ar 196 A-3
Blohm & Voss  BV 138 C-1 · BV 238
Dornier  Do 17 E-1 · Do 17 Z-2 · Do 217 E-2 · Do 217 E-4 · Do 217 K-1 · Do 217 M-1
Focke-Wulf  Fw 189 A-1 · Fw 200 C-1
Henschel  Hs 123 A-1
Heinkel  He 111 H-3 · He 111 H-6 · He 111 H-16 · He 115 C-1 · He 177 A-3 · He 177 A-5
Junkers  Ju 87 B-2 · Ju 87 R-2 · Ju 87 R-2 Libya · Ju 87 D-3 · Ju 87 D-5 · Ju 88 A-1 · Ju 88 A-4 · Ju 188 A-2 · Ju 288 C
Messerschmitt  Me 264
Savoia-Marchetti  ▀S.M.79 serie 1 · ▀S.M.79 B · ▀S.M.79 serie 4 · ▀S.M.79 serie 8
  ▀S.M.79 AS · ▀S.M.79 bis/N · ▀S.M.79 bis/T.M
Trophies  ▀Wellington Mk Ic

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