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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | The '''AMX-30 Super''' is the third upgraded subvariant of the [[AMX-30 (1972)|AMX-30B | + | The '''AMX-30 Super''' is the third upgraded subvariant of the [[AMX-30 (1972)|AMX-30B]], which is the second variant of the [[AMX-30 (Family)|AMX-30 main battle tank family]]. A consortium of West German companies designed the AMX-30 Super modernisation package for the AMX-30B (Model 1972) in the late 1980s. AEG, Krupp Atlas Elektronik, MTU, Wegmann & Co., Diehl, ZF Friedrichshafen, and GLS formed the consortium. The power packs were upgraded with a new MTU MB833 Ka501 diesel engine with 850 horsepower, a ZF LSG-3000 automatic transmission, a new engine cooling system, and a fuel capacity increase to 1,028 litres. Upgraded torsion bars, hydraulic shock absorbers, new somewhat wider road wheels, and Diehl Type 234 tracks are also part of the mobility upgrade. The fire control systems have been upgraded with Krupp Atlas Elektronik's MOLF-30 modular laser FCS, a two-plane fully automatic stabilization system, and modern gunner thermal imaging equipment. Additional turret armour is also available per buyer request. A single prototype was created, publicly displayed, and tested in Saudi Arabia. The upgrade was unable to find a customer. |
| − | Introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]], the AMX-30 Super is the third and final upgrade of the base variant AMX-30B. The AMX-30 Super is equipped with a much-needed two-plane fully automatic stabilization system. Players can now take part in urban fights and lead assaults, which were previously impossible in practically all older variants of the AMX-30 main battle tanks. The familiar coaxial armament, the dual-purpose 20 mm GIAT M693 autocannon, has been removed, and the original M2HB Browning heavy machine gun has replaced it. | + | Introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]] as a [[wt:en/news/6198-development-super-amx-30-the-stabilizer-is-ready-to-go-en|premium pack]], the AMX-30 Super is the third and final upgrade of the base variant AMX-30B. The AMX-30 Super is equipped with a much-needed two-plane fully automatic stabilization system. Players can now take part in urban fights and lead assaults, which were previously impossible in practically all older variants of the AMX-30 main battle tanks. The familiar coaxial armament, the dual-purpose 20 mm GIAT M693 autocannon, has been removed, and the original M2HB Browning heavy machine gun has replaced it. |
| + | It was removed from the Gaijin store after the [[wt:en/news/8677-shop-the-new-year-sale-in-the-gaijinnet-store-en|2023 New Year sale]] and returned as a permanent premium vehicle you can buy with GE {{GE}} at the end of [[wt:en/news/8715-special-the-amx-30-super-is-returning-and-is-here-to-stay-en|January 2024]]. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
Latest revision as of 13:17, 26 February 2024
| This page is about the premium French medium tank AMX-30 Super. For other versions, see AMX-30 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The AMX-30 Super is the third upgraded subvariant of the AMX-30B, which is the second variant of the AMX-30 main battle tank family. A consortium of West German companies designed the AMX-30 Super modernisation package for the AMX-30B (Model 1972) in the late 1980s. AEG, Krupp Atlas Elektronik, MTU, Wegmann & Co., Diehl, ZF Friedrichshafen, and GLS formed the consortium. The power packs were upgraded with a new MTU MB833 Ka501 diesel engine with 850 horsepower, a ZF LSG-3000 automatic transmission, a new engine cooling system, and a fuel capacity increase to 1,028 litres. Upgraded torsion bars, hydraulic shock absorbers, new somewhat wider road wheels, and Diehl Type 234 tracks are also part of the mobility upgrade. The fire control systems have been upgraded with Krupp Atlas Elektronik's MOLF-30 modular laser FCS, a two-plane fully automatic stabilization system, and modern gunner thermal imaging equipment. Additional turret armour is also available per buyer request. A single prototype was created, publicly displayed, and tested in Saudi Arabia. The upgrade was unable to find a customer.
Introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy" as a premium pack, the AMX-30 Super is the third and final upgrade of the base variant AMX-30B. The AMX-30 Super is equipped with a much-needed two-plane fully automatic stabilization system. Players can now take part in urban fights and lead assaults, which were previously impossible in practically all older variants of the AMX-30 main battle tanks. The familiar coaxial armament, the dual-purpose 20 mm GIAT M693 autocannon, has been removed, and the original M2HB Browning heavy machine gun has replaced it.
It was removed from the Gaijin store after the 2023 New Year sale and returned as a permanent premium vehicle you can buy with GE 
at the end of January 2024.
General info
Survivability and armour
Armour type:
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | ___ mm | ___ mm Top ___ mm Bottom |
___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Turret | ___ - ___ mm Turret front ___ mm Gun mantlet |
___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Cupola | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm |
Notes:
The armour protection, as common in many European MBTs such as the Leopard I, isn't enough to stop anything apart from heavy machine guns and 30 mm shells (although the sides and the rear are vulnerable even to 20 mm autocannon such as those on the AMX-30 and MBT-70), but sometimes the angles of the hull will bounce some shells. The turret is not great as most shells will penetrate it, often killing the gunner and detonating the ammunition in the rear of the turret. Unlike the Leopard I, the AMX-30 Super is capable of carrying enough ammunition in the turret to fight, leaving the hull relatively safe, but this comes with a price: whenever the tank is hit in the turret, there's a high chance that the ammunition will catch fire.
The fuel tank in the hull can stop some heat shells, but it's not something to rely on. Given the high mobility of the tank and the two-plane stabilizer, the vehicle gives his best when moving fast and hitting the enemy from the distance.
Mobility
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 73 | 52 | 36.5 | 1,317 | 1,622 | 36.08 | 44.44 |
| Realistic | 66 | 47 | 752 | 850 | 20.6 | 23.29 | |
The AMX-30 Super is fast and nimble. Its engine gives a specific power of 1,622 hp in AB and 850 hp in RB/SB. With a power-to-ton ratio of 23.2 hp/ton in RB/SB and 44.4 hp/ton in AB, this tank can certainly traverse the terrains smoothly. Being about 36.5 tons, this tank is relatively lighter than its competitors of similar BR. This tank can go up to 72 km/h in AB and 65 km/h in RB/SB forwards and it goes up to -30 km/h in AB and -27 km/h in RB/SB reverse.
Modifications and economy
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Armaments
Main armament
The main armament of the AMX-30 Super is the 105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon, which is very similar to the likes of the 105 mm L7A3. The gun takes about 6.7 seconds to reload with an aced crew with max leadership and weapon reloading skill which is fairly standard among its competitors. This cannon fires APFSDS, HEAT, smoke and HE. It is recommended to at most keep 23 shells in the tank when playing Realistic Battles as its ready rack can carry 22 shells and this effectively removes all of the ammunition rack in the hull behind the fuel tanks (except 4 shells around the turret ring). It is recommended to take a loadout of mostly APFSDS with a few HEAT and Smoke shells just in case.
| 105 mm CN-105-F1 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 50 | -8°/+20° | ±180° | Two-plane | 28.6 | 39.5 | 48.0 | 53.1 | 56.5 | 8.71 | 7.70 | 7.10 | 6.70 |
| Realistic | 17.9 | 21.0 | 25.5 | 28.2 | 30.0 | ||||||||
Ammunition
The main shell, the OFL 105 F1 APFSDS, is very capable of penetrating most of what it sees with a frontal shot as it has 350 mm of penetration at 0 degrees from 500 m away. The OCC 105 F1 HEATFS may be very useful against light targets such as SPAAG or light tanks. The OFPH 105 F1 smoke shell provides extra ranged covering smoke in order to mask you or your team (possibly even blinding the enemy) in combat.
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| OCC 105 F1 | HEAT | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 |
| OE 105 F1 Mle.60 | HE | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 |
| OFL 105 F1 | APFSDS | 361 | 358 | 350 | 341 | 332 | 322 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Ricochet | |||||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
| OCC 105 F1 | HEAT | 1,000 | 10.95 | 0.05 | 0.1 | 1.02 | 62° | 69° | 73° | |||
| OE 105 F1 Mle.60 | HE | 700 | 12.1 | 0 | 0.1 | 2 | 79° | 80° | 81° | |||
| OFL 105 F1 | APFSDS | 1,525 | 3.8 | - | - | - | 78° | 80° | 81° | |||
| Smoke shell characteristics | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Screen radius (m) |
Screen deploy time (s) |
Screen hold time (s) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
| OFPH 105 F1 | 700 | 11.4 | 20 | 5 | 25 | 50 |
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 50 | 23 (+27) | 22 (+28) | 19 (+31) | 9 (+41) | 1 (+49) | No |
Notes:
- Shells are modeled individually and disappear from the rack after having been shot or loaded.
- Racks 2 to 5 are first order ammo racks (ready racks). They total 22 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
- These racks are also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1.
- To go into battle with the frontal ammo rack empty, pack 23 (+27) shells.
Optics and night vision
| AMX-30 Super Optics | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Type of optic | Magnification | Night Vision Devices | ||||
| Image Intensifier | Thermal Imager Resolution |
Notes | ||||
| Resolution | Light Mult | Noise Level | ||||
| Gunner's Sight | X8.0 - X12 | - | - | - | 500 x 300 | - |
| Commander's View | X6 | 1600 x 1200 | 9.0 | High | Not Fitted | - |
| Driver's View | X1 | 800 x 600 | 5.0 | High | Not Fitted | - |
Machine guns
The AMX-30 Super is armed with a coaxial 12.7 mm (.50 cal) inside its turret right beside the cannon and a lighter 7.62 mm (.30 cal) mounted on the roof near the commander's hatch. Although ditching the 20 mm typically found on other AMX-30s, the machine guns equipped can still deal fair damage to very lightly armoured vehicles.
| 12.7 mm M2HB | ||||
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| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| Coaxial | 800 (200) | 577 | 0°/+20° | N/A |
| 7.62 mm MG3A1 | ||||
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| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| Pintle | 3,000 (200) | 1,200 | -10°/+45° | ±120° |
Usage in battles
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Pros and cons
Pros:
- Great mobility
- Has stabilizer so it can shoot on the move unlike other AMX-30s
- Good survivability due to crew placement, as such it is difficult to knock it out with a single shot
- Has access to a variety of ammunition rounds
Cons:
- Commander's turret machine gun found on the French AMX-30s is replaced with MG3A1 which cannot deal very well with air targets
- The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank
- Most of the times, the shots that penetrate the tank will take out the engine
- Missing commander optics and commander fire control compared to other AMX-30s
History
During the second half of the 80s, a group of companies in West Germany developed an extensive program to modernize certain outdated tanks, including the French AMX-30B. A number of improvements were made to the French tank in order to enhance its firepower, increase its dynamic characteristics, and (optionally) enhance its armour to a certain extent.
The tank's firing potential was improved thanks to the installation of a MOLF fire control system with a stabilized sight and a stabilizer for the main gun. The tank's mobility was enhanced with a new 850-horsepower diesel engine, a German automatic transmission, and new torsion bars and hydraulic shock absorbers. The new tank was demonstrated to the public under the name "Super AMX-30" during testing in Saudi Arabia, but no buyers were found for the upgraded French tank, and only one Super AMX-30 was ever made.
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Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
- Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
- Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
External links
| Ateliers de construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX) | |
|---|---|
| Light tanks | |
| AMX-13 | AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT) |
| Armoured cars | AMX-10RC |
| Medium tanks | AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100) |
| MBTs | |
| AMX-30 | AMX-30 · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 Super |
| AMX-32/40 | AMX-32 (105) · AMX-32 · AMX-40 |
| Heavy tanks | AMX-50 Surbaissé · AMX-50 Surblindé |
| Tank destroyers | ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch |
| SPAAGs | AMX-13 DCA 40 · AMX-30 S DCA |
| Export | AMX-13 |
| France medium tanks | |
|---|---|
| M4 Derivatives | M4A1 (FL10) · M4A4 (SA50) |
| AMX-50 | AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100) · AMX-50 (TO90/930) |
| AMX-30 | AMX-30 · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 Super |
| AMX-32/40 | AMX-32 · AMX-32 (105) · AMX-40 |
| Leclerc | Leclerc · Leclerc S2 · Leclerc SXXI · Leclerc AZUR |
| Other | D2 · S.35 · Lorraine 40t |
| Germany | Panther "Dauphiné" |
| USA | ▄M4A1 · ▄M4A3 (105) · ▄M4A4 · ▄M26 |
| France premium ground vehicles | |
|---|---|
| Light tanks | AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
| Medium tanks | M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930) |
| Heavy tanks | B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM |
| Tank destroyers | Lorraine 155 Mle.50 |
