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The ability of the aircraft to do a lot of things well gives the pilot many options when engaging opponents. Side climbing is advised as many of the C.205's adversaries, most notably Spitfires and Yak 3s, can outclimb it. Once at around 5,000 - 6,000 metres Boom and zoom tactics should be used against fighters below you. However the excellent armament means that you can stay at altitude and hunt down any pesky bombers which didn't decide to climb. While not a dedicated turn fighter, the C.205 can still compete in dogfights with good flap and throttle control.
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C.205 Serie 3 is not just a mere upgrade from [[C.205 serie 1]], now it features 2 pairs of 20mm MG 151 which executing Boom-and-Zoom and bomber intercepting is now very possible with greater chance of success. The flight performance still remains competitive for its BR thanks to DB 605-A.
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Remember, altitude equals advantage. Keep climbing at 20 degree. Once you've reached 4000m, lower the climbing angle to 15 degree to increase its speed. Make sure to watch your speed as you climb, you might not want to risk yourself being hit or destroyed by enemy fighter who has speed advantage than you. Until reaching 8000m out of the sky, the engine still perform well without any problem. Use this oppoturnity to scour enemy planes, or dive down toward bombers and enemy fighters. If you spotted the enemy at your altitude, stop climbing or climb a little to regain your speed. A DB 605A engine still provide exceptional speed at higher altitude, which helpful for 1-on-1 engagement.
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If you getting tailed by enemy fighters, do an Immelmann turn, and scissor maneuvering to drain enemy fighters energy. Once your enemy loses its energy to pursue and began to stalling, use your flaps when pitching up to your enemy, and you can proceed to shoot it down when the time is right. Rolling rate in C.205 serie 3 also good in both medium and high speed, use this to make your enemy overshoot you and running out of their ammo. C.205 also has exceptional maneuverability in higher speed even carrying a pairs of 20mm MG 151, but don't expect to outturn Spitfires and Yaks as you'll bleed your energy and became their easy feast. The combat flaps is strong, as long as you can keep your speed at 600 km/h while dogfighting.  
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While the 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT still remain on this aircraft, the most prominent feature of the C.205 serie 3 is an additional pairs of the 20m MG 151 on the wing, replacing the 7.7mm Breda-SAFAT Machinegun. Here, with the total of 500 round for the 20mm, you should be able to destroy a fighter with single burst or a bomber with good shot placement at their wings or fuselage once loaded with Air Targets belt which contain mostly of deadly Minengeschoss. While the 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT loses its effective firepower beyond 300-400m, you can load them with tracers belt which helpful to ignite plane component, although not as easy as .50 M2 does. You can set gun targeting distance at 400m, which is best for intense dogfighting, or pursue your enemy.
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===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===

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This page is about the Italian fighter C. 205 serie 3. For other versions, see C.205 serie 1 and C.205N2.

Description

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The C. 205 serie 3 is a rank IV Italian fighter with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB), 4.7 (RB), and 4.0 (SB). This fighter was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" along with the initial Italian aviation tree.

The C.205 serie 3 is a refinement of the C.205 serie 1, which was a development of the C.202. The serie 3 addresses the main issue of the serie 1, which is its highly underwhelming firepower. The wings now each hold a 20 mm MG151/20 cannon which accompany what used to be the primary armament, 2 x 12.7 mm machine guns mounted above the engine cowling. The extra weight on the Daimler-Benz 605 engine marginally reduces flight performance.

General info

Flight Performance

The aircraft has a very good roll rate and generally good acceleration both in level flight and when diving. Overall handling is good and energy retention in level flight and in the vertical is very good. Control lock up starts with the rudder past 500 - 550 kph with the test of the control surfaces steadily locking up past 600 - 650 kph. Players should make sure to leave enough altitude to pull out of a steep dive. The control lockup prevents the wings from tearing due to excessive G-force. The engine maintains a lot of power even past 5,000 metres and takes a while to overheat.

For full real control pilots, the left wing is slightly longer than the right to counter the torque of the engine. This can cause the aircraft to roll to the side even when making a slight change in pitch.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
648 629 10360 20.1 20.8 15.6 15.6 250
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
699 672 10360 18.0 19.0 23.3 19 250

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flaps
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
600 ~14 ~5
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 400 < 270 < 550 > 380
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,800 m 1,250 hp 1,407 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 50 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
  • 8 mm Steel - Behind pilot
  • Decent build quality, can take some punishment.

Armaments

Offensive armament

The C. 205 serie 3 is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, Mounted above the engine cowling (400 rpg = 800 total)

Usage in battles

C.205 Serie 3 is not just a mere upgrade from C.205 serie 1, now it features 2 pairs of 20mm MG 151 which executing Boom-and-Zoom and bomber intercepting is now very possible with greater chance of success. The flight performance still remains competitive for its BR thanks to DB 605-A.

Remember, altitude equals advantage. Keep climbing at 20 degree. Once you've reached 4000m, lower the climbing angle to 15 degree to increase its speed. Make sure to watch your speed as you climb, you might not want to risk yourself being hit or destroyed by enemy fighter who has speed advantage than you. Until reaching 8000m out of the sky, the engine still perform well without any problem. Use this oppoturnity to scour enemy planes, or dive down toward bombers and enemy fighters. If you spotted the enemy at your altitude, stop climbing or climb a little to regain your speed. A DB 605A engine still provide exceptional speed at higher altitude, which helpful for 1-on-1 engagement.

If you getting tailed by enemy fighters, do an Immelmann turn, and scissor maneuvering to drain enemy fighters energy. Once your enemy loses its energy to pursue and began to stalling, use your flaps when pitching up to your enemy, and you can proceed to shoot it down when the time is right. Rolling rate in C.205 serie 3 also good in both medium and high speed, use this to make your enemy overshoot you and running out of their ammo. C.205 also has exceptional maneuverability in higher speed even carrying a pairs of 20mm MG 151, but don't expect to outturn Spitfires and Yaks as you'll bleed your energy and became their easy feast. The combat flaps is strong, as long as you can keep your speed at 600 km/h while dogfighting.

While the 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT still remain on this aircraft, the most prominent feature of the C.205 serie 3 is an additional pairs of the 20m MG 151 on the wing, replacing the 7.7mm Breda-SAFAT Machinegun. Here, with the total of 500 round for the 20mm, you should be able to destroy a fighter with single burst or a bomber with good shot placement at their wings or fuselage once loaded with Air Targets belt which contain mostly of deadly Minengeschoss. While the 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT loses its effective firepower beyond 300-400m, you can load them with tracers belt which helpful to ignite plane component, although not as easy as .50 M2 does. You can set gun targeting distance at 400m, which is best for intense dogfighting, or pursue your enemy.

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Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 12 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 12 mm MGs
III Wings repair Engine Offensive 20 mm
IV Engine injection Cover New 20 mm cannons

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good for BnZ
  • Good performance above 4,000 m (13,000 ft)
  • Good armament (especially when using air targets belt)
  • Great ammunition pool
  • Can be used as interceptor against bombers
  • Relatively tough

Cons:

  • Average climb rate means it can find itself below or at equal altitude to the enemy
  • Very sluggish at low speed
  • When stock, the cannons are surprisingly inaccurate and tend to "shotgun" a bit
  • Breda-SAFAT machine guns have a low muzzle velocity, and don't hit very hard

History

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See also

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Macchi Aeronautics (Macchi Aeronautica)
Fighters  C. 200 serie 3 · C. 200 serie 7
  C. 202 · C. 202D · C. 202EC
  C. 205 serie 1 · C. 205 serie 3 · C. 205N2
Captured  ▀C. 200 serie 3 · ▀C. 200 serie 7 · ▀C. 202

Italy fighters
Fiat  CR.32 · CR.32 bis · CR.32 quater · CR.42 · Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
  G.50 serie 2 · G.50 AS serie 7
  G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55 serie 1 · G.55S · G.56
Reggiane  Re.2000 G.A. · Re.2000 serie 1
  Re.2001 serie 1 · Re.2001 gruppo 22 · Re.2001 CB · Re.2001 CN
  Re.2002 Early
  Re.2005 serie 0
Macchi  C. 200 serie 3 · C. 200 serie 7
  C. 202 · C. 202D · C. 202EC
  C. 205 serie 1 · C. 205 serie 3 · C. 205N2
IMAM  Ro.44
  Foreign:
Germany  ▄Bf 109 G-14/AS
USA  ▄P-47D-30
Britain  ▄Spitfire Mk Vb/trop
Hungary  ◐Bf 109 F-4 · ◐Bf 109 G-2 · ◔Yak-9P
Romania  He 112 B-1/U2 · IAR-81C