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Revision as of 22:08, 11 December 2021

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90/53 M41M
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Description

The Semovente 90/53 M41M (shortened as 90/53 M41M) is a rank III Italian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull30 / 25 / 25
Turret30 / 15 / 0
Crew4 people
Visibility79 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (gun shield)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 30 mm (19-68°) Upper glacis - top section
25 mm (80°) Upper glacis - bottom section
30 mm (cylindrical°) Lower plate
25 mm (8°) Top
25 mm Bottom
30 mm (9-12°) MG bulge
25 mm Upper part
25 mm (16°) Lower part
25 mm (10°) Front glacis
25 mm (10°) Driver compartment
25 mm (15°) Engine compartment
5-25 mm (10°) Radiator vents
15 mm Gun platform
Gun shield 150 mm Gun breech
30 mm (29°) Shield front
6 mm (15-27°) Overlapping hull shield
15 mm (0-18°) N/A 8 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
  • The belly is 14 mm thick.
  • The gun mount is 15 mm thick.
  • Mudguards are 4 mm thick.

Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal heavy machine gun fire from the front and the very sloped hull armour can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew sits unproteted and can be knocked out by anything. One artillery shell behind you can disable the 90/53 M41M.

Despite that, it has better survivability than what people may expect from such a thinly-armoured vehicle. Because of its layout, the 90/53 M41M separates the crew into two different areas, the front compartment of the hull and the rear turret, with the engine bay in between. This also gives additional protection from the front side to the ammunition storage area, and so being destroyed by an ammo explosion is not a frequent thing.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB38 / 6 km/h
RB and SB35 / 6 km/h
Number of gears4 forward
1 back
Weight15.7 t
Engine power
AB305 hp
RB and SB160 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB19.4 hp/t
RB and SB10.2 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38 6 15.7 227 305 14.46 19.43
Realistic 35 6 142 160 9.04 10.19

The mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the 90/53 M41M can drive diagonally while aiming.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 010 → 1 249 Sl icon.png
RB1 212 → 1 499 Sl icon.png
SB1 483 → 1 834 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications19 500 Rp icon.png
32 100 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost980 Ge icon.png
Crew training13 000 Sl icon.png
Experts47 000 Sl icon.png
Aces330 Ge icon.png
Research Aces280 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
70 / 100 / 130 % Sl icon.png
136 / 136 / 136 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
1 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
105 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 800 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 800 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 300 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 300 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
1 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
105 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 800 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement it.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
1 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
105 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
1 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 800 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
90mm_Gr_Perforante_APCBC_ammo_pack
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition8 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Vertical guidance-5° / 19°
Horizontal guidance-45° / 45°
Main article: 90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)
90 mm 90/53 mod.41 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 8 -5°/+19° ±45° N/A 9.7 13.4 16.3 18.0 19.2 10.40 9.20 8.48 8.00
Realistic 6.6 7.7 9.4 10.3 11.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Granata Perforante da 90 APCBC 132 130 121 110 101 92
Granata da 90 HE 14 14 14 14 14 14
Granata Perforante mod.43 APCBC 158 156 146 134 124 114
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante da 90 APCBC 758 12.1 1.2 14 520 48° 63° 71°
Granata da 90 HE 850 10.1 0.1 0.5 1,000 79° 80° 81°
Granata Perforante mod.43 APCBC 773 11.1 1.2 14 180 48° 63° 71°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the 90/53 M41M
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
8 (+3) (+7) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • Pack 8 shells as your ammo capacity is very limited.


Usage in battles

Due to its high penetration at close ranges, excellent turret traverse and surprising survivability, the 90/53 can perform quite well in CQC combat in an urban environment. The 90/53 is quite lethal to most tanks it comes across and can deal quite easily with vehicles other tanks typically struggle with, such as KV-1s. This comes at the sacrifice of an exposed rear, so it is typically advised to make sure that your rear is always secure and not to overextend from your allies. Alternatively, the high calibre of the shell does make the 90/53 viable at range, but the lack of ammunition and machine guns for rangefinding make this task quite difficult. When entering battle, a full load of Granata Preforante mod.43 is typically advised.

The 90/53 is extremely vulnerable to AA guns as they can typically shred the 90/53's thin armour and should be avoided at all costs. Strafing from planes is also a common annoyance, as its lightly armoured and semi-exposed crew are easy targets from the air. Try to avoid open areas and stick to places with limited visibility from the air, such as forests and towns where planes will have trouble spotting you. If a plane is targeting you it might be wise to back your exposed rear into a solid object, like a wall or a cliffside to prevent the plane from hitting your rear.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Wide traverse angle
  • Exceptionally lethal APHE shells with outstanding penetration
  • Acceptable reloading time
  • If a shot penetrates the front, the engine and fuel tanks would absorb most of the fragmentation
  • Now, there are 4 crew members, so it's more likely to survive strafing runs.

Cons:

  • Poor gun depression
  • Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds)
  • Poor armour & exposed crewmembers in the turret
  • Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades
  • Mediocre mobility
  • If you have 3 crew members and a plane strafes from behind, you're most likely dead

History

The Semovente M41M da 90/53 consisted of a 90 mm anti-aircraft gun mounted on the rear of a lengthened M14/41 hull and chassis. The engine was moved from the rear of the vehicle to a central position. Conceived and built specifically for anti-tank use on the Eastern Front after it was clear Italian forces had no answer to Russian tanks like the T-34, was hurriedly designed and rushed into production in early 1942. In practice the large gun overstressed the chassis and engine, so production stopped after 30 were produced and none were ever sent to Russia. Only a handful of rounds could be carried on the vehicle; it had to be accompanied by a turretless L6/40 tank used as its ammunition carrier.

Twenty-four surviving vehicles were formed into the 10th Self-Propelled Gun Unit (Raggruppamento Semoventi), divided into 3 gruppi. It was sent to Sicily in June, 1943, and was deployed against the US 7th Army in fighting in the Licata area, losing all but two of its vehicles. These last two vehicles were abandoned and captured in Messina when Sicily fell. The few left behind in Italy were seized and used by Germany.

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See also

Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


FIAT-Ansaldo
Autoblindo  AB 41 · AB 43
Light Tanks  L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.)
Medium Tanks  Celere Sahariano
M11/39  M11/39
M13/40  M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41  M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42  M15/42
P40  P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
Tank Destroyers 
L3/33  L3/33 CC
Semovente L40  47/32 L40
Semovente M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
Semovente M42  75/34 M42
Semovente M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
SPAAs  M42 Contraereo

Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1