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=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
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| − | The Mirage IIIC has no | + | The Mirage IIIC has no armour and is very susceptible to damage. Hits that do not outright destroy the aircraft will severely hamper manoeuvrability and performance. A damaged engine will require immediate landing, since the aircraft loses a lot of energy while turning, the loss of power will be very noticeable. Wing or tail/rudder damage will result in flatspins if the aircraft is taken to low speeds or if too many G's are pulled. |
| − | Overall, if damaged, a pilot should seek to land as soon as possible while attempting to make as few | + | Overall, if damaged, a pilot should seek to land as soon as possible while attempting to make as few manoeuvres as possible. |
== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
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* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rpg = 250 total) | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rpg = 250 total) | ||
| − | * 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x AS-30 Nord missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x AS-30 Nord missile + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (500 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (500 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles (500 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets (500 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets (500 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (800 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles (800 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets (800 kg total) | |
| − | + | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets (800 kg total) | |
* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | * 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles | ||
* 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | * 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | The Mirage IIIC is a multirole strike fighter which can be used in a wide variety of roles from air-to-air and a really limited role in air-to-ground | + | The Mirage IIIC is a multirole strike fighter which can be used in a wide variety of roles from air-to-air and a really limited role in air-to-ground. |
'''When in air battles:''' | '''When in air battles:''' | ||
| − | The Mirage IIIC is one of the most feared planes in the sky, not only because of its speed but because of its powerful | + | The Mirage IIIC is one of the most feared planes in the sky, not only because of its speed but because of its powerful air-to-air missiles. The Mirage has a wide range of AAMs featuring both IR seeker and radar-guided missiles: the AIM-9B, Matra R550 Magic 1, Matra R530E and the Matra R530. Each of the missiles has its pros and cons which will be explained. It should be noted that the Mirage '''should not be used as a bomber in Air Realistic battles''' due to its mediocre bomb payload. |
''AIM-9B:'' | ''AIM-9B:'' | ||
| − | This is one of the most universal and basic IR AAM which is available in many nations. Although they are one of the easiest missiles to evade, their speed and range make them deadly | + | This is one of the most universal and basic IR AAM which is available in many nations. Although they are one of the easiest missiles to evade, their speed and range make them deadly against unaware enemies. |
''Matra R550 Magic 1:'' | ''Matra R550 Magic 1:'' | ||
| − | This is a | + | This is a unique French IR AAM which is hard to evade without the use of flares due to its high speed, G-limit and firing range. They are similar to the [[SRAAM]] missiles in terms of use due to its G-limit. The main difference is that the R550 does not have a thrust vectoring system, meaning it has to gain speed when launched in order to make turns which differs from SRAAM which can turn while gaining speed in super short distances (less than 1 km but greater than 200 m) due to the vectoring thrust. |
''Matra R530E:'' | ''Matra R530E:'' | ||
| − | This | + | This IR AAM has a tremendous explosive power, speed, and firing range. Despite not being the most agile AAM in the game, they are the best IR long range AAM. This comes with a cost, the Mirage only has access to 1 carried on the belly pylon. This missile should only be used when chasing enemy planes in a run, not while turning. The main downside is fighting against planes with Infrared Countermeasures (IRCM) and Missile Alert Warning (MAW) which will automatically dump flares upon detecting the missile. |
''Matra R530:'' | ''Matra R530:'' | ||
| − | This is the biggest radar guided AAM in the game, exactly the same as the R530E but radar | + | This is the biggest radar-guided AAM in the game, exactly the same as the R530E but with radar guidance and without a maximum lock-on range in rear aspect, meaning it can be fired at any target locked by the radar no matter the aspect (rear, front, side, etc). The main downsides of this missile are the same as the R530E but this time it loses its "stealth" factor as many planes carry Radar Warning Receivers (RWR). MAW, IRCM and flares will not affect the performance of the missile as the only way to evade a radar lock-on missile is to escape from the radar range and azimuth or by causing interference using the ground (refer to [[Airborne radars#Clutter]]). |
| − | Take the required payload upon | + | Take the required payload upon discretion. |
'''When in ground battles:''' | '''When in ground battles:''' | ||
| − | The Mirage has a decent payload when in GRB. Although limited, the Mirage can do competitive CAS runs with the SNEB rocket pods, | + | The Mirage has a decent payload when in GRB. Although limited, the Mirage can do competitive CAS runs with the SNEB rocket pods, bombs, and Nord AGMs. With the help of the ballistic computer, the Mirage is capable of enhancing the accuracy of this armament in addition to its 30 mm gun pods. It should be noted that the amount of ordnance is really small (only 36 x SNEB rockets, 2 x 400 kg bombs, 2 x 250 kg bombs, or 1 x AS-30 Nord AGM) but can be deadly in a good pilot's hands. |
=== Modules === | === Modules === | ||
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| Nord AS.30 | | Nord AS.30 | ||
| − | |Matra R550 Magic 1 | + | | Matra R550 Magic 1 |
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* Bleeds energy at high angles of attack | * Bleeds energy at high angles of attack | ||
* Relatively low thrust to weight ratio for its battle rating | * Relatively low thrust to weight ratio for its battle rating | ||
| − | * No | + | * No armour |
== History == | == History == | ||
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | ||
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
| − | |||
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
Revision as of 22:55, 21 December 2020
Mirage IIIC
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Contents
Description
The Mirage IIIC is a rank VII French jet fighter
with a battle rating of 10.3 (AB/SB) and 10.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".
General info
Flight performance
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 12,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 2,087 | 2,045 | 16000 | 29.5 | 30.1 | 109.3 | 97.7 | 750 |
| Upgraded | 2,238 | 2,160 | 26.7 | 28.0 | 173.1 | 140.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| X | X | X | ✓ | X | ✓ |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 0 | 426 | N/A | N/A | N/A | ~12 | ~5 |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 920 | < 750 | < 650 | N/A |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Basic Mass | Wing loading (full fuel, no booster) | ||||
| SNECMA Atar 9B | 1 | 6,340 kg | 258 kg/m2 | ||||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load, no booster) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
| Weight (each) | Type | 13m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 44m fuel | ||
| 1,450 kg | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | 6,891 kg | 7,188 kg | 7,612 kg | 8,206 kg | 10,950 kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP, no booster) | ||||||
| Condition | 100% | WEP | 13m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 44m fuel | MTOW |
| Stationary | 4,230 kgf | 6,090 kgf | 0.88 | 0.85 | 0.80 | 0.74 | 0.56 |
| Optimal | 5,118 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
8,105 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
1.18 | 1.13 | 1.06 | 0.99 | 0.74 |
Survivability and armour
The Mirage IIIC has no armour and is very susceptible to damage. Hits that do not outright destroy the aircraft will severely hamper manoeuvrability and performance. A damaged engine will require immediate landing, since the aircraft loses a lot of energy while turning, the loss of power will be very noticeable. Wing or tail/rudder damage will result in flatspins if the aircraft is taken to low speeds or if too many G's are pulled.
Overall, if damaged, a pilot should seek to land as soon as possible while attempting to make as few manoeuvres as possible.
Armaments
Suspended armament
The Mirage IIIC can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons (125 rpg = 250 total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530E missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x Matra R530 missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x AS-30 Nord missile + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 1 x AS-30 Nord missile + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (500 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (500 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles (500 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets (500 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets (500 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (800 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles (800 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets (800 kg total)
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs + 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets (800 kg total)
- 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
- 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
Usage in battles
The Mirage IIIC is a multirole strike fighter which can be used in a wide variety of roles from air-to-air and a really limited role in air-to-ground.
When in air battles:
The Mirage IIIC is one of the most feared planes in the sky, not only because of its speed but because of its powerful air-to-air missiles. The Mirage has a wide range of AAMs featuring both IR seeker and radar-guided missiles: the AIM-9B, Matra R550 Magic 1, Matra R530E and the Matra R530. Each of the missiles has its pros and cons which will be explained. It should be noted that the Mirage should not be used as a bomber in Air Realistic battles due to its mediocre bomb payload.
AIM-9B:
This is one of the most universal and basic IR AAM which is available in many nations. Although they are one of the easiest missiles to evade, their speed and range make them deadly against unaware enemies.
Matra R550 Magic 1:
This is a unique French IR AAM which is hard to evade without the use of flares due to its high speed, G-limit and firing range. They are similar to the SRAAM missiles in terms of use due to its G-limit. The main difference is that the R550 does not have a thrust vectoring system, meaning it has to gain speed when launched in order to make turns which differs from SRAAM which can turn while gaining speed in super short distances (less than 1 km but greater than 200 m) due to the vectoring thrust.
Matra R530E:
This IR AAM has a tremendous explosive power, speed, and firing range. Despite not being the most agile AAM in the game, they are the best IR long range AAM. This comes with a cost, the Mirage only has access to 1 carried on the belly pylon. This missile should only be used when chasing enemy planes in a run, not while turning. The main downside is fighting against planes with Infrared Countermeasures (IRCM) and Missile Alert Warning (MAW) which will automatically dump flares upon detecting the missile.
Matra R530:
This is the biggest radar-guided AAM in the game, exactly the same as the R530E but with radar guidance and without a maximum lock-on range in rear aspect, meaning it can be fired at any target locked by the radar no matter the aspect (rear, front, side, etc). The main downsides of this missile are the same as the R530E but this time it loses its "stealth" factor as many planes carry Radar Warning Receivers (RWR). MAW, IRCM and flares will not affect the performance of the missile as the only way to evade a radar lock-on missile is to escape from the radar range and azimuth or by causing interference using the ground (refer to Airborne radars#Clutter).
Take the required payload upon discretion.
When in ground battles:
The Mirage has a decent payload when in GRB. Although limited, the Mirage can do competitive CAS runs with the SNEB rocket pods, bombs, and Nord AGMs. With the help of the ballistic computer, the Mirage is capable of enhancing the accuracy of this armament in addition to its 30 mm gun pods. It should be noted that the amount of ordnance is really small (only 36 x SNEB rockets, 2 x 400 kg bombs, 2 x 250 kg bombs, or 1 x AS-30 Nord AGM) but can be deadly in a good pilot's hands.
Modules
| Tier | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| I | Compressor | Fuselage repair | Type 25C | AIM-9B | ||
| II | New boosters | Airframe | Offensive 30 mm | Matra JL-100R | Matra R530 | |
| III | Wings repair | G-suit | Type 21B | Matra LR F1 | Matra R530E | |
| IV | Engine | Cover | New 30 mm cannons | Nord AS.30 | Matra R550 Magic 1 | |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Magic missiles have very high probability of kill
- Long range Matra R530E missile allows you to catch pilots by surprise
- 30 mm cannons are nose-mounted, so there is little need for convergence
- Very manoeuvrable
- Variety of suspended armament is vast
Cons:
- Bleeds energy at high angles of attack
- Relatively low thrust to weight ratio for its battle rating
- No armour
History
The Dassault Mirage IIIC is an upgrade of the Mirage IIIA, the IIIC is slightly longer than the IIIA. A notable Mirage III variant is the Mirage IIIV which was VTOL capable and supersonic capable but never in the same flight.
The Mirage III was operated by France, Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Chile, Spain, Israel (they also made their own variants), Lebanon, Portugal (loaned), South Africa, Switzerland, Abu Dhabi and Venezuela.
It is still operated by the Pakistan Air Force and 1 is operated in Switzerland by a civilian company. Pakistan retrofit their Mirage III and Mirage 5 that were in service with the ROSE system, this retrofit refit the fighters with new parts such as the HUD, HOTAS, radar warning receiver and navigation systems.
Media
- Skins
- Videos
The Shooting Range #202 - Pages of History section at 04:40 discusses the Mirage III.
The Shooting Range #214 - Metal Beasts section at 00:27 discusses the Mirage IIIC.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Template:AirManufacturer Bloch
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|---|---|
| Fighters | M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2 |
| ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN) | |
| Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000 | |
| Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT | |
| Strike aircraft | ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE |
| Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E | |
| Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV | |
| Bombers | S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) |
| Belgium | ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM |
| Netherlands | ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6 |
