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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}'''(Chinese: 歼-7D, previously J-7IIIA; unified NATO codename: Fishcan) is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (Chinese: 歼-7D, previously J-7IIIA; unified NATO codename: Fishcan) is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Apex Predators"]].
  
The reverse-engineered version of MiG-21MF from Egypt for all-weather operations; J-7D offers very similar performance to late MiG-21 series with better engine and higher fuel capacity. While it lacks SARH missiles for head-on/interception missions and large-caliber rockets like S-24, the overall combat capabilities can be still ensured by its IR AAMs and varieties of Chinese ground-attack weaponries.
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The reverse-engineered version of the MiG-21MF from Egypt for all-weather operations, J-7D offers very similar performance to the late MiG-21 series with better engine and higher fuel capacity. While it lacks SARH missiles for head-on/interception missions and large-calibre rockets like S-24s, the overall combat capabilities can be still ensured by its IR AAMs and variety of Chinese ground-attack weaponries.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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Taking a look at J-7D, other than its default grey-tone camo and the PLAAF roundel onboard, the jet itself looks extremely similar to late MiG-21 series with R-13F-300 engines. This is indeed true as J-7III series (C and D) were both based on MiG-21MFs exchanged from Egypt; in short words, J-7D flies very similarly to MiG-21MF in LSK (East Germany) service. In a more detailed manner, the later variants of Fishbed featured higher fuel capacity (the “spine” are installed with fuel tanks) and higher engine thrust, as well as featuring a new RP-22 radar; J-7D featured all the aforementioned upgrades. The lighter weight and higher thrust of the WP-13F1 engine also ensure a faster speed even against a MiG-21Bis while having slightly better maneuverability to it as well; do remember that J-7D is still an interceptor after all, so in most cases utilize its speed is more than enough to take out enemies at its tier. But do beware light fighters or tailless delta jets in one-on-one dogfight, it's better to quit the fight and wait for better chance to take them down in one-take.
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Taking a look at J-7D, other than its default grey-tone camo and the PLAAF roundel onboard, the jet itself looks extremely similar to the late MiG-21 series with R-13F-300 engines. This is indeed true as J-7III series (C and D) were both based on MiG-21MFs exchanged from Egypt; in short, J-7D flies very similarly to the [[MiG-21MF (Germany)|MiG-21MF]] in LSK (East German) service. The later variants of the Fishbed feature higher fuel capacity (the "spine" is filled with fuel tanks) and higher engine thrust, as well as featuring a new RP-22 radar; the J-7D exhibits all of the aforementioned upgrades. The lighter weight and higher thrust of the WP-13F1 engine also ensures a faster speed even against a [[MiG-21bis]] while having slightly better manoeuvrability as well; do remember that the J-7D is still an interceptor after all, so in most cases utilising its speed is more than enough to take out enemies at its tier. But do beware of light fighters or tailless delta-wing jets in one-on-one dogfights, it's better to quit the fight and wait for better chance to take them down in one pass.
  
 
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A bad news for players who fly J-7D is that, other than the airframe and aluminum alloy skin, the jet has no additional protection at any given spots; any hits from enemy weapons are very likely to either severely damage the jet or take out the pilot straight away. But EFS system and self-sealing tanks do present onboard, giving it some chance to return to airfield if it survived subsequence assaults from enemies.  
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Other than the airframe and aluminium alloy skin, the J-7D has no additional protection; any hits from enemy weapons are very likely to either severely damage the jet or take out the pilot straight away. However, an EFS system and self-sealing tanks are present onboard, giving it some chance to return to the airfield if it survives subsequent assaults from enemies.
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
  
 
* Better engine thrust than most previous J-7/MiG-21 series thanks to the WP-13F1 engine
 
* Better engine thrust than most previous J-7/MiG-21 series thanks to the WP-13F1 engine
 
* Access to search radar
 
* Access to search radar
* Relatively better rocket options to Soviet MiG-21MF/S series
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* Relatively better light rocket options than Soviet MiG-21MF/S series
* Devastating PL-5B or PL-7 missiles at its disposal for different playstyle
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* Devastating PL-5B or PL-7 missiles at its disposal
 
* Built-in countermeasures with 72 salvos, unlike its Soviet cousins
 
* Built-in countermeasures with 72 salvos, unlike its Soviet cousins
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Bleeds severely at maneuvers due to delta wing design
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* Bleeds energy severely during manoeuvres due to delta wing design
* Heavier than J-7E, players have to adopt different doctrine
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* Heavier than J-7E
* Lacks all-aspect missiles and SARH missiles unlike its Soviet cousins
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* Lacks all-aspect IR missiles and SARH missiles
* Below average pylon counts for its tier  
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* Below average pylon counts for its tier
 
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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As the Type 62 and the subsequence J-7I/II series went into commission with PLAAF in late 1960s, PLAAF has already sought for a new fighter for all-weather interception and replacing earlier jets in service; although the [https://wiki.warthunder.com/User:U4656018#J-8I_.28J-8_.22Daytime.22.3B_J-8A_and_J-8E.29 J-8 program] has also been started by the same time, it was until 1979 when J-7II was finalized and J-8I was passed for certification. This also called for a back-up for the J-8I series. During the late 1970s economy reform and increasing international arms trade with foreign countries, Chinese engineers visited countries with MiG-21MF in-service and took the design for future use; CATIC also exchanged some Soviet equipment from Egypt including MiG-23SM and MiG-21MF as the reverse-engineer subject for new interceptors.
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By the time the Type 62 and subsequent J-7I/II series went into commission with the PLAAF in the late 1960s, the PLAAF was already seeking a new fighter for all-weather interception and to replace earlier jets in service. Although the J-8 program was also started around the same time, it was only until 1979 when J-7II was finalized and J-8I was passed for certification. This also called for a back-up for the J-8I series. During the late 1970s economy reform and increasing international arms trade with foreign countries, Chinese engineers visited countries with MiG-21MFs in service and took the design for future use; CATIC also exchanged some Soviet equipment from Egypt including MiG-23SM and MiG-21MF as the reverse-engineer subject for new interceptors.
  
The new J-7III started its development in March 1979 by CAC and after 5 years of repairing MiG-21MF while building domestic prototypes, J-7III took its first flight on 1984/4/26 and subsequence flight tests continued until 1988 when the first batches rolled-off the production line; the reverse-engineered jet featured new engine and a domestic JL-7 radar based from Type 317A radar from the failed Q-5 Yi ''(强-5乙, perhaps the very last torpedo bomber ever developed)'' but engine production issues hindered the further production of J-7III ''(now called J-7C under new designation)'' with only 17 of them built. Meanwhile, as the J-7III continued to develop, CAC and GAIC worked on new electronical, countermeasure systems as well as new WP-13F1 engine for the new jet. The new jet, developed in 1988, featured a new JL-7A radar capable of launching the latest PL-8 missiles, reverse-engineered Marconi Type 956 HUD, as well as Type 930-4 countermeasure system. J-7IIIA ''(now called J-7D under new designation)'' took its first flight in mid-1991 and joined PLAAF in 1995.
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The new J-7III started its development in March 1979 by CAC and after 5 years of repairing MiG-21MFs while building domestic prototypes, the J-7III took its first flight on 26th April 1984 and subsequent flight tests continued until 1988 when the first batches rolled off the production line. The reverse-engineered jet featured a new engine and a domestic JL-7 radar based from Type 317A radar from the failed Q-5 Yi (强-5乙, perhaps the very last torpedo bomber ever developed), but engine production issues hindered the further production of J-7III (now called J-7C under new designation) with only 17 of them built. Meanwhile, as the J-7III continued to be developed, CAC and GAIC worked on new electronics and countermeasure systems as well as a new WP-13F1 engine for the new jet. The new jet, developed in 1988, featured a new JL-7A radar capable of launching the latest PL-8 missiles, reverse-engineered Marconi Type 956 HUD, as well as Type 930-4 countermeasure system. J-7IIIA (now called J-7D) took its first flight in mid-1991 and joined the PLAAF in 1995.
  
Due to the different in combat doctrine, introduction of more advanced Su-27SK Flanker-B and J-7E, as well as J-8II series being combat-capable in 1990s and the successful development of Project No. 10 (J-10), the need for J-7D deemed unnecessary and only 39 of them were built until 1999 as the placeholder for new jets; these jets made it into its first and only appearance in National Day parade of 1999, alongside with Flankers and air-refuel-capable J-8D.
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Due to changes in combat doctrine, introduction of more advanced Su-27SK Flanker-B and J-7E, as well as J-8II series becoming combat-capable in 1990s and the successful development of Project No. 10 (J-10), the J-7D was deemed unnecessary and only 39 of them were built by 1999 as the placeholder for new jets; these jets made it into their first and only appearance in the National Day Parade of 1999, alongside with Flankers and air-refuel-capable J-8D.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==

Revision as of 20:49, 21 December 2022

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Description

The J-7D (Chinese: 歼-7D, previously J-7IIIA; unified NATO codename: Fishcan) is a premium gift rank VII Chinese jet fighter with a battle rating of 10.7 (AB), 11.0 (RB), and 11.3 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Apex Predators".

The reverse-engineered version of the MiG-21MF from Egypt for all-weather operations, J-7D offers very similar performance to the late MiG-21 series with better engine and higher fuel capacity. While it lacks SARH missiles for head-on/interception missions and large-calibre rockets like S-24s, the overall combat capabilities can be still ensured by its IR AAMs and variety of Chinese ground-attack weaponries.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 12 000 m2 419 km/h
Turn time26 s
Max altitude16 000 m
EngineShenyang Liming WP-13FI
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight10 t

Taking a look at J-7D, other than its default grey-tone camo and the PLAAF roundel onboard, the jet itself looks extremely similar to the late MiG-21 series with R-13F-300 engines. This is indeed true as J-7III series (C and D) were both based on MiG-21MFs exchanged from Egypt; in short, J-7D flies very similarly to the MiG-21MF in LSK (East German) service. The later variants of the Fishbed feature higher fuel capacity (the "spine" is filled with fuel tanks) and higher engine thrust, as well as featuring a new RP-22 radar; the J-7D exhibits all of the aforementioned upgrades. The lighter weight and higher thrust of the WP-13F1 engine also ensures a faster speed even against a MiG-21bis while having slightly better manoeuvrability as well; do remember that the J-7D is still an interceptor after all, so in most cases utilising its speed is more than enough to take out enemies at its tier. But do beware of light fighters or tailless delta-wing jets in one-on-one dogfights, it's better to quit the fight and wait for better chance to take them down in one pass.

Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at _,___ m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 16000 __._ __._ __._ __._ ___
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
_ _ _ _ _ _
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1365 700 ___ ___ ___ ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< ___ < ___ < ___ N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
_____ _ _,___ kg ___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Gross
Weight
Weight (each) Type _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel
___ kg ___ _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
Condition 100% ___%/WEP _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel MGW
Stationary ___ kgf ___ kgf _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Optimal ___ kgf
(_ km/h)
___ kgf
(_ km/h)
_.__ _.__ _.__ _.__

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 365 km/h
Gear700 km/h

Other than the airframe and aluminium alloy skin, the J-7D has no additional protection; any hits from enemy weapons are very likely to either severely damage the jet or take out the pilot straight away. However, an EFS system and self-sealing tanks are present onboard, giving it some chance to return to the airfield if it survives subsequent assaults from enemies.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB1 942 Sl icon.png
RB5 812 Sl icon.png
SB5 828 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 160 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces2 150 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 100 / 300 / 600 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Mods heli false thermal targets.png
Flares/Chaff
Mods ammo.png
ns23_belt_pack
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
HF-6
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Mods pilon block rocket large.png
HF-14
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
PL-2
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
ns23_new_gun
Mods pilon bomb.png
Type 250
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
PL-5B
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Type 500
Mods air to air missile.png
PL-7

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: Type 23-3 (23 mm)

The J-7D is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • 1 x 23 mm Type 23-3 cannon, belly-mounted (200 rpg)
    • 1 x 23 mm Type 23-3 cannon + 72 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Better engine thrust than most previous J-7/MiG-21 series thanks to the WP-13F1 engine
  • Access to search radar
  • Relatively better light rocket options than Soviet MiG-21MF/S series
  • Devastating PL-5B or PL-7 missiles at its disposal
  • Built-in countermeasures with 72 salvos, unlike its Soviet cousins

Cons:

  • Bleeds energy severely during manoeuvres due to delta wing design
  • Heavier than J-7E
  • Lacks all-aspect IR missiles and SARH missiles
  • Below average pylon counts for its tier

History

By the time the Type 62 and subsequent J-7I/II series went into commission with the PLAAF in the late 1960s, the PLAAF was already seeking a new fighter for all-weather interception and to replace earlier jets in service. Although the J-8 program was also started around the same time, it was only until 1979 when J-7II was finalized and J-8I was passed for certification. This also called for a back-up for the J-8I series. During the late 1970s economy reform and increasing international arms trade with foreign countries, Chinese engineers visited countries with MiG-21MFs in service and took the design for future use; CATIC also exchanged some Soviet equipment from Egypt including MiG-23SM and MiG-21MF as the reverse-engineer subject for new interceptors.

The new J-7III started its development in March 1979 by CAC and after 5 years of repairing MiG-21MFs while building domestic prototypes, the J-7III took its first flight on 26th April 1984 and subsequent flight tests continued until 1988 when the first batches rolled off the production line. The reverse-engineered jet featured a new engine and a domestic JL-7 radar based from Type 317A radar from the failed Q-5 Yi (强-5乙, perhaps the very last torpedo bomber ever developed), but engine production issues hindered the further production of J-7III (now called J-7C under new designation) with only 17 of them built. Meanwhile, as the J-7III continued to be developed, CAC and GAIC worked on new electronics and countermeasure systems as well as a new WP-13F1 engine for the new jet. The new jet, developed in 1988, featured a new JL-7A radar capable of launching the latest PL-8 missiles, reverse-engineered Marconi Type 956 HUD, as well as Type 930-4 countermeasure system. J-7IIIA (now called J-7D) took its first flight in mid-1991 and joined the PLAAF in 1995.

Due to changes in combat doctrine, introduction of more advanced Su-27SK Flanker-B and J-7E, as well as J-8II series becoming combat-capable in 1990s and the successful development of Project No. 10 (J-10), the J-7D was deemed unnecessary and only 39 of them were built by 1999 as the placeholder for new jets; these jets made it into their first and only appearance in the National Day Parade of 1999, alongside with Flankers and air-refuel-capable J-8D.

Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • other literature.


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