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The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.
 
The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.
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The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an airspawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of play-style. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like an easy 1-vs-1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turnfight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate ammunition count, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have an advantage over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
 
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The aircraft can also be employed in ground strike or destruction of enemy bases with its more than sufficient maximum bomb load of 4 x 1,000 lb Mk.83 bombs and somewhat less impressive selection of 24 HVAR rockets.
 
  
 
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*Gets an airspawn as a strike aircraft
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*Six .50 caliber machine guns as main armament gives plenty of firing time to get a hit in
 
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*Diverse payload options in rockets or bombs
 
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*Top speed matches that of other contemporary aircraft
 
  
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== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 19:30, 19 June 2022

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This page is about the Israeli strike aircraft F-84F (Israel). For other versions, see F-84 (Family).
F-84F
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GarageImage F-84F (Israel).jpg
F-84F
Israel flag.png Israel
VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
8.7 8.3 8.7
Class:
PREMIUM
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Description

The F-84F Thunderstreak is a premium rank VI Israeli strike aircraft with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/SB) and 8.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Wind of Change".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 102 km/h
Turn time28 s
Max altitude12 500 m
EngineWright J65-W-7
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight9 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,090 1,067 12500 29.7 30.9 30.7 28.8 3,000
Upgraded 1,111 1,102 26.5 28.0 45.9 38.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1187 417 533 515 417 ~11 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 630 < 600 < 650 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Wright J65-W-7 1 6,667 kg 279 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 29m fuel
1,260 kg Axial-flow turbojet 7,177 kg 7,838 kg 8,368 kg 8,935 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 8m fuel 20m fuel 29m fuel MTOW
Stationary 3,470 kgf N/A 0.48 0.44 0.41 0.39
Optimal 3,470 kgf
(0 km/h) 		N/A 0.48 0.44 0.41 0.39

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 187 km/h
Gear417 km/h

The F-84F has decent armour surrounding the pilot including bulletproof glass and steel plates. However there is no armour for critical systems and everything is packed together in the middle of the aircraft. A few hits to the middle of the aircraft will most likely destroy it.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB2 046 Sl icon.png
RB5 954 Sl icon.png
SB6 937 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts730 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 780 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 120 / 320 / 600 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 214 / 214 / 214 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods ammo.png
bmg50_belt_pack
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
BLU-1
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk81
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
FRC mk.2
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
bmg50_new_gun
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Aero X-6A
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png

Offensive armament

Main article: M3 Browning (12.7 mm)

The F-84F (Israel) is armed with:

  • 4 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,200 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, wing root-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb), LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb), LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb), LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb), BLU-1 incendiary
Main articles: FFAR Mighty Mouse, HVAR

The F-84F (Israel) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 12 x HVAR rockets (inner pylons)
  • 12 x HVAR rockets (outer pylons)
  • 24 x HVAR rockets
  • 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 12 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 12 x HVAR rockets + 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (6,000 lb total)
  • 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs
  • 2 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs + 12 x HVAR rockets
  • 2 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Radars

The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.

AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar
Maximum
Tracking
Range 		Minimum
Tracking
Range 		Azimuth Tracking
Angle 		Elevation Tracking
Angle
2,750 m 300 m ±9° ±9°

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Gets an airspawn as a strike aircraft
  • Six .50 caliber machine guns as main armament gives plenty of firing time to get a hit in
  • Diverse payload options in rockets or bombs
  • Top speed matches that of other contemporary aircraft

Cons:

  • .50 caliber armament is not very powerful, requires longer hit times to do sufficient damage to enemy aircraft
  • Rate of climb is rather poor
  • Payload restricted to one type of ordnance, rockets or bombs
  • Turn time is worse than other contemporary fighters

History

In the late 1940's, the manufacturer 'Republic' sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.

Following its maiden flight in the early 1950's, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F.

The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960's as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970's before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.

The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.

- From Devblog

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

External links


Republic Aviation Corporation
Fighters  P-43A-1
  P-47D-22-RE · P-47D-25 · P-47D-28 · P-47M-1-RE · ⋠P-47M-1-RE · P-47N-15
Jet Aircraft  F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE
  F-105D
Export  J9 Early*
  ␗P-43A-1
  ▄Thunderbolt Mk.1 · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ␗P-47D-23-RA · ▂P-47D-27 · ␗P-47D-30 · ▄P-47D-30 · ␗F-47N-25-RE
  ◄F-84F · ▄F-84F (Italy) · ▄F-84F (France) · F-84F IAF · F-84F
  ␗F-84G-21-RE · ▄F-84G-21-RE · ▄F-84G-26-RE · ␗F-84G-31-RE
Captured  ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D
  *The company was named "Seversky Aircraft Company" before being renamed in 1939

Israel jet aircraft
  Kfir Canard · Kfir C.2 · Kfir C.7 · Nesher
Britain 
Meteor  Meteor NF.13 · Meteor F.8
France 
Vautour  Vautour IIA · Vautour IIN
Super Mystere  Sambad · Sa'ar
Mirage III  Shahak
Other  M.D.450B Ouragan · Mystere IVA
USA 
F-84  F-84F
A-4  A-4H · A-4E Early (M) · A-4E · Ayit
F-4  Kurnass · Kurnass 2000
F-15  Baz · Baz Meshupar · F-15I Ra’am
F-16  Netz · F-16C Barak II · F-16D Barak II

Israel premium aircraft
Weizman's Spitfire LF Mk.IXe · F-84F · A-4E · Kfir Canard

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