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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The Semovente da 90/53 (introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].) was a self propelled gun mainly made to provide support infantry and take out light and medium tanks that were used by the allies. It's main armament was mounted on the rear of a lengthened M14/41 hull and chassis. The [[90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)|90 mm 90/53 mod.41]] was made by modifying an anti-air cannon. It would have its first combat debut during the allied landings in Sicily where it proved itself, however due to the sheer allied power both in the air and ground, the little numbers produced of this platform wouldn't be enough for Italy to defend itself. In game the Semovente 90/53 is one of the early tank-destroyer vehicles availible to players grinding the tree. It has a very potent main armament able to deal with any enemy player vehicle at its battle rating. It mobility isn't the best however, the best playstyle for this vehicle is as a sniper where you won't have to be moving a lot. You can set up ambushes as the vehicle is not too tall or wide to be easily spotted. Reload rates need to be considered when engaging multiple enemies, not only that but the vehicle does not carry a lot of ammunition on the vehicle so you need to pick you targets very carefully and make sure every hit counts. Once spotted the vehicle does not have enough armour to protect itself from the majority of enemy attacks. The crew placement means most shots directed towards your turret will mean a quick trip back to the hangar. One major weakspot that you don't want enemies to take advantage of is your behind, as your ammo and crew are completley exposed, and can be taken out by machine gun fire. Being flanked in this vehicle means you usually wont be able to make it out alive from engagements. Overall, just play smart with the Semovente da 90/53, do not go out in the open and attack only when absolutely needed.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened as '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal fire from the front and the very sloped hull armour can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew can be knocked out by anything and the ammo is also stored there. One artillery shell behind you can one-shot the 90/53.
 
  
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Despite that, it has better survivability than what people may expect from such a thinly-armoured vehicle. Because of its layout, the 90/53 M41M separates the crew into two different areas, the front compartment of the hull and the rear turret, with the engine bay in between. This also gives additional protection from the front side to the ammunition storage area, and so being destroyed by an ammo explosion is not a frequent thing.
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull)
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* Cast homogeneous armour (gun shield)
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The mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the 90/53 can drive diagonally while aiming.
 
  
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| Hull || 30 mm (19-68°) ''Upper glacis - top section'' <br> 25 mm (80°) ''Upper glacis - bottom section'' <br> 30 mm (cylindrical°) ''Lower plate'' || 25 mm (8°) ''Top'' <br> 25 mm ''Bottom'' <br> 30 mm (9-12°) ''MG bulge'' || 25 mm ''Upper part'' <br> 25 mm (16°) ''Lower part'' || 25 mm (10°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 25 mm (10°) ''Driver compartment'' <br> 25 mm (15°) ''Engine compartment'' <br> 5-25 mm (10°) ''Radiator vents'' <br> 15 mm ''Gun platform''
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| Gun shield || 150 mm ''Gun breech'' <br> 30 mm (29°) ''Shield front'' <br> 6 mm (15-27°) ''Overlapping hull shield '' || 15 mm (0-18°) || N/A || 8 mm
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| 38 || rowspan="2" | 15.7 || rowspan="2" | N/A || 227 || 280 || 14.46 || 17.83
 
 
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* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
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* The belly is 14 mm thick.
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* The gun mount is 15 mm thick.
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* Mudguards are 4 mm thick.
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Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal heavy machine gun fire from the front and the sloped hull armour can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew sits unprotected and can be knocked out by anything, including a single artillery shell behind you can disable the {{PAGENAME}}.
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Despite that, it has better survivability than what people may expect from such a thinly-armoured vehicle. Because of its layout, the {{PAGENAME}} separates the crew into two different areas, the front compartment of the hull and the rear turret, with the engine bay in between. This also gives additional protection from the front side to the ammunition storage area, and so being destroyed by an ammo explosion is not a frequent occurence.
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=== Mobility ===
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The mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the {{PAGENAME}} can drive diagonally while aiming.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)}}
 
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| rowspan="2" | 8 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±45° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 9.7 || 13.4 ||16.3||18.0|| 19.2 || rowspan="2" | 10.40 || rowspan="2" |9.20|| rowspan="2" |8.48|| rowspan="2" | 8.00
 
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==== Ammunition ====
 
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| Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC || 132 || 130 || 121 || 110 || 101 || 92
 
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| Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC || 758 || 12.1 || 1.2 || 14.0 || 520 || +4.0° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| Granata Perforante mod.43 || APCBC || 773 || 11.1 || 1.2 || 14.0 || 180 || +4.0° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| Granata da 90 || HE || 850 || 10.1 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,000 || +0.0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
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! 1st<br>rack empty
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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The 90/53 is extremely vulnerable to AA guns as they can typically shred the 90/53's thin armour and should be avoided at all costs. Strafing from planes is also a common annoyance, as its lightly armoured and semi-exposed crew are easy targets from the air. Try to avoid open areas and stick to places with limited visibility from the air, such as forests and towns where planes will have trouble spotting you. If a plane is targeting you it might be wise to back your exposed rear into a solid object, like a wall or a cliffside to prevent the plane from hitting your rear.
 
The 90/53 is extremely vulnerable to AA guns as they can typically shred the 90/53's thin armour and should be avoided at all costs. Strafing from planes is also a common annoyance, as its lightly armoured and semi-exposed crew are easy targets from the air. Try to avoid open areas and stick to places with limited visibility from the air, such as forests and towns where planes will have trouble spotting you. If a plane is targeting you it might be wise to back your exposed rear into a solid object, like a wall or a cliffside to prevent the plane from hitting your rear.
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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[[File:90 53 M41M.jpg|thumb|90/53 M41M fighting at range]]
 
'''Pros:'''
 
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* Acceptable reloading time
 
* Acceptable reloading time
 
* If a shot penetrates the front, the engine and fuel tanks would absorb most of the fragmentation
 
* If a shot penetrates the front, the engine and fuel tanks would absorb most of the fragmentation
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* 4 widely spaced out crew members increases chance of surviving strafing runs  
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
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* Poor gun depression
 
* Poor gun depression
 
* Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds)
 
* Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds)
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* Poor armour & exposed crewmembers in the turret
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* Poor armour & exposed crew members in the turret
 
* Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades
 
* Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades
 
* Mediocre mobility
 
* Mediocre mobility
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Twenty-four surviving vehicles were formed into the 10th Self-Propelled Gun Unit (Raggruppamento Semoventi), divided into 3 gruppi. It was sent to Sicily in June, 1943, and was deployed against the US 7th Army in fighting in the Licata area, losing all but two of its vehicles. These last two vehicles were abandoned and captured in Messina when Sicily fell. The few left behind in Italy were seized and used by Germany.
 
Twenty-four surviving vehicles were formed into the 10th Self-Propelled Gun Unit (Raggruppamento Semoventi), divided into 3 gruppi. It was sent to Sicily in June, 1943, and was deployed against the US 7th Army in fighting in the Licata area, losing all but two of its vehicles. These last two vehicles were abandoned and captured in Messina when Sicily fell. The few left behind in Italy were seized and used by Germany.
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One of these two Semovente was brought to Aberdeen proving ground to be evaluated. In 2012, it was moved to the U.S. Army Field Artillery museum in Fort Sill, Oklahoma where it was restored. It is likely the only surviving example.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|m_4hzeJ0UrY|'''Semovente da {{PAGENAME}}, Italian, Tier-2, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|d_9nBk092jE|'''It has explosives and penetration , but what's the catch? Semovente {{PAGENAME}}''' - ''HowToPlay1337''}}
  
 
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* [[SU-85A]]
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* [[Breda 90/53]] Same cannon but on an unarmored  truck chassis
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* [[Breda 501]] Same cannon but on an armored truck chassis
  
 
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* [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_90/53|[Wikipedia] Semovente da 90/53]]
 
* [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_90/53|[Wikipedia] Semovente da 90/53]]
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* [https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/italy/Semovente_Da_90-53.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> Semovente da 90/53]
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* [https://www.army.mil/article/94484/army_fa_museum_adds_wwii_artillery_pieces <nowiki>[US Army]</nowiki> Army FA museum adds WWII artillery pieces]
  
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Latest revision as of 19:13, 23 January 2024

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90/53 M41M
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GarageImage 90 53 M41M.jpg
90/53 M41M
Italy flag.png Italy
III Rank
Battle rating:
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Description

The Semovente da 90/53 (introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".) was a self propelled gun mainly made to provide support infantry and take out light and medium tanks that were used by the allies. It's main armament was mounted on the rear of a lengthened M14/41 hull and chassis. The 90 mm 90/53 mod.41 was made by modifying an anti-air cannon. It would have its first combat debut during the allied landings in Sicily where it proved itself, however due to the sheer allied power both in the air and ground, the little numbers produced of this platform wouldn't be enough for Italy to defend itself. In game the Semovente 90/53 is one of the early tank-destroyer vehicles availible to players grinding the tree. It has a very potent main armament able to deal with any enemy player vehicle at its battle rating. It mobility isn't the best however, the best playstyle for this vehicle is as a sniper where you won't have to be moving a lot. You can set up ambushes as the vehicle is not too tall or wide to be easily spotted. Reload rates need to be considered when engaging multiple enemies, not only that but the vehicle does not carry a lot of ammunition on the vehicle so you need to pick you targets very carefully and make sure every hit counts. Once spotted the vehicle does not have enough armour to protect itself from the majority of enemy attacks. The crew placement means most shots directed towards your turret will mean a quick trip back to the hangar. One major weakspot that you don't want enemies to take advantage of is your behind, as your ammo and crew are completley exposed, and can be taken out by machine gun fire. Being flanked in this vehicle means you usually wont be able to make it out alive from engagements. Overall, just play smart with the Semovente da 90/53, do not go out in the open and attack only when absolutely needed.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull30 / 25 / 25
Turret30 / 15 / 0
Crew4 people
Visibility79 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (gun shield)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 30 mm (19-68°) Upper glacis - top section
25 mm (80°) Upper glacis - bottom section
30 mm (cylindrical°) Lower plate 		25 mm (8°) Top
25 mm Bottom
30 mm (9-12°) MG bulge 		25 mm Upper part
25 mm (16°) Lower part 		25 mm (10°) Front glacis
25 mm (10°) Driver compartment
25 mm (15°) Engine compartment
5-25 mm (10°) Radiator vents
15 mm Gun platform
Gun shield 150 mm Gun breech
30 mm (29°) Shield front
6 mm (15-27°) Overlapping hull shield 		15 mm (0-18°) N/A 8 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
  • The belly is 14 mm thick.
  • The gun mount is 15 mm thick.
  • Mudguards are 4 mm thick.

Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal heavy machine gun fire from the front and the sloped hull armour can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew sits unprotected and can be knocked out by anything, including a single artillery shell behind you can disable the 90/53 M41M.

Despite that, it has better survivability than what people may expect from such a thinly-armoured vehicle. Because of its layout, the 90/53 M41M separates the crew into two different areas, the front compartment of the hull and the rear turret, with the engine bay in between. This also gives additional protection from the front side to the ammunition storage area, and so being destroyed by an ammo explosion is not a frequent occurence.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB38 / 6 km/h
RB and SB35 / 6 km/h
Number of gears4 forward
1 back
Weight15.7 t
Engine power
AB305 hp
RB and SB160 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB19.4 hp/t
RB and SB10.2 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38 6 15.7 227 305 14.46 19.43
Realistic 35 6 142 160 9.04 10.19

The mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the 90/53 M41M can drive diagonally while aiming.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 010 → 1 249 Sl icon.png
RB1 212 → 1 499 Sl icon.png
SB1 483 → 1 834 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications19 500 Rp icon.png
32 100 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost980 Ge icon.png
Crew training13 000 Sl icon.png
Experts47 000 Sl icon.png
Aces330 Ge icon.png
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Modifications
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Armaments

Main armament

90 mm 90/53 mod.41 cannon
Ammunition8 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Vertical guidance-5° / 19°
Horizontal guidance-45° / 45°
Main article: 90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)
90 mm 90/53 mod.41 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 8 -5°/+19° ±45° N/A 9.7 13.4 16.3 18.0 19.2 10.40 9.20 8.48 8.00
Realistic 6.6 7.7 9.4 10.3 11.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Granata Perforante da 90 APCBC 152 149 139 126 115 105
Granata da 90 HE 20 20 18 17 15 14
Granata Perforante mod.43 APCBC 145 143 134 123 114 105
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante da 90 APCBC 758 12.16 1.2 14 347 48° 63° 71°
Granata da 90 HE 830 10.3 0.2 0.1 871 79° 80° 81°
Granata Perforante mod.43 APCBC 773 11.25 1.2 14 347 48° 63° 71°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the 90/53 M41M
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
8 5 (+3) 1 (+7) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • Pack 8 shells as your ammo capacity is very limited.


Usage in battles

Due to its high penetration at close ranges, excellent turret traverse and surprising survivability, the 90/53 can perform quite well in CQC combat in an urban environment. The 90/53 is quite lethal to most tanks it comes across and can deal quite easily with vehicles other tanks typically struggle with, such as KV-1s. This comes at the sacrifice of an exposed rear, so it is typically advised to make sure that your rear is always secure and not to overextend from your allies. Alternatively, the high calibre of the shell does make the 90/53 viable at range, but the lack of ammunition and machine guns for rangefinding make this task quite difficult. When entering battle, a full load of Granata Preforante mod.43 is typically advised.

The 90/53 is extremely vulnerable to AA guns as they can typically shred the 90/53's thin armour and should be avoided at all costs. Strafing from planes is also a common annoyance, as its lightly armoured and semi-exposed crew are easy targets from the air. Try to avoid open areas and stick to places with limited visibility from the air, such as forests and towns where planes will have trouble spotting you. If a plane is targeting you it might be wise to back your exposed rear into a solid object, like a wall or a cliffside to prevent the plane from hitting your rear.

Pros and cons

90/53 M41M fighting at range

Pros:

  • Wide traverse angle
  • Exceptionally lethal APHE shells with outstanding penetration
  • Acceptable reloading time
  • If a shot penetrates the front, the engine and fuel tanks would absorb most of the fragmentation
  • 4 widely spaced out crew members increases chance of surviving strafing runs

Cons:

  • Poor gun depression
  • Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds)
  • Poor armour & exposed crew members in the turret
  • Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades
  • Mediocre mobility
  • If you have 3 crew members and a plane strafes from behind, you're most likely dead

History

The Semovente M41M da 90/53 consisted of a 90 mm anti-aircraft gun mounted on the rear of a lengthened M14/41 hull and chassis. The engine was moved from the rear of the vehicle to a central position. Conceived and built specifically for anti-tank use on the Eastern Front after it was clear Italian forces had no answer to Russian tanks like the T-34, was hurriedly designed and rushed into production in early 1942. In practice the large gun overstressed the chassis and engine, so production stopped after 30 were produced and none were ever sent to Russia. Only a handful of rounds could be carried on the vehicle; it had to be accompanied by a turretless L6/40 tank used as its ammunition carrier.

Twenty-four surviving vehicles were formed into the 10th Self-Propelled Gun Unit (Raggruppamento Semoventi), divided into 3 gruppi. It was sent to Sicily in June, 1943, and was deployed against the US 7th Army in fighting in the Licata area, losing all but two of its vehicles. These last two vehicles were abandoned and captured in Messina when Sicily fell. The few left behind in Italy were seized and used by Germany.

One of these two Semovente was brought to Aberdeen proving ground to be evaluated. In 2012, it was moved to the U.S. Army Field Artillery museum in Fort Sill, Oklahoma where it was restored. It is likely the only surviving example.

Media

Skins
Videos
Semovente da 90/53 M41M, Italian, Tier-2, Tank Destroyer - Angry Nerd Gaming
It has explosives and penetration , but what's the catch? Semovente 90/53 M41M - HowToPlay1337

See also

Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


FIAT-Ansaldo
Autoblindo  AB 41 · AB 43
Light Tanks  L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.)
Medium Tanks  Celere Sahariano
M11/39  M11/39
M13/40  M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41  M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42  M15/42
P40  P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
Tank Destroyers 
L3/33  L3/33 CC
Semovente L40  47/32 L40
Semovente M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
Semovente M42  75/34 M42
Semovente M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
SPAAs  M42 Contraereo

Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1

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