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+ | | link = Su-2 (Family) | ||
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+ | |code=su-2_tss1 | ||
+ | |images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}} | ||
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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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+ | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. | ||
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== General info == | == General info == | ||
− | === Flight | + | === Flight performance === |
− | <!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. | + | {{Specs-Avia-Flight}} |
− | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | + | <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' --> |
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− | + | ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics | |
− | ! | + | ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,100 m) |
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− | ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>( | ||
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ||
− | ! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>( | + | ! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second) |
− | ! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>( | + | ! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres) |
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− | ! AB | + | ! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB |
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+ | | 493 || 477 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 25.9 || 26.6 || 6.7 || 6.7 || rowspan="2" | 369 | ||
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− | ====Details==== | + | ==== Details ==== |
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! colspan="5" | Features | ! colspan="5" | Features | ||
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− | ! Combat | + | ! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear |
− | ! Take-off | ||
− | ! Landing | ||
− | ! Air brakes | ||
− | ! Arrestor gear | ||
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− | | | + | | ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X <!-- ✓ --> |
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− | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | + | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%" |
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− | ! colspan=" | + | ! colspan="7" | Limits |
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− | ! rowspan="2" | | + | ! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h) |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Gear | + | ! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h) |
− | ! | + | ! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h) |
! colspan="2" | Max Static G | ! colspan="2" | Max Static G | ||
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− | ! + | + | ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - |
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− | | {{Specs| | + | | {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 394 || 340 || 340 || ~8 || ~4 |
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− | ! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities | + | ! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h) |
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− | ! Ailerons | + | ! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator |
− | ! Rudder | ||
− | ! Elevators | ||
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− | | < | + | | < 280 || < 240 || < 500 || > 190 |
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− | + | === Survivability and armour === | |
− | + | {{Specs-Avia-Armour}} | |
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− | + | * No armour protection | |
− | + | * Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 in each wing, 1 in front of the pilot) | |
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− | === | + | === Modifications and economy === |
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== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
+ | {{Specs-Avia-Armaments}} | ||
=== Offensive armament === | === Offensive armament === | ||
− | <!--''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' | + | {{Specs-Avia-Offensive}} |
− | {{main| | + | <!-- ''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.'' --> |
+ | {{main|ShKAS (7.62 mm)}} | ||
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | ||
− | * | + | * 2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns, wing-mounted (850 rpg = 1,700 total) |
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− | + | === Suspended armament === | |
− | ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''--> | + | {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} |
− | + | <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' --> | |
− | + | {{main|FAB-50sv (50 kg)|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|BRAB-220 (1930) (220 kg)|FAB-250sv (250 kg)}} | |
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+ | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | ||
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+ | * Without load | ||
+ | * 4 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (200 kg total) | ||
+ | * 12 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (600 kg total) | ||
+ | * 4 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (400 kg total) | ||
+ | * 6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (600 kg total) | ||
+ | * 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total) | ||
+ | * 2 x 220 kg BRAB-220 (1930) bombs (440 kg total) | ||
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=== Defensive armament === | === Defensive armament === | ||
− | ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' | + | {{Specs-Avia-Defensive}} |
− | --> | + | <!-- ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' --> |
− | + | {{main|ShKAS (7.62 mm)}} | |
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+ | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by: | ||
− | ===Manual Engine Control=== | + | * 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, dorsal turret (1,000 rpg) |
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+ | == Usage in battles == | ||
+ | <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' --> | ||
+ | The Su-2 TSS-1 is an interesting aircraft compared to its brethren. On one hand, you now have improved speed and agility (not to Chaika levels though, so don't go dogfighting). On the other hand, however, you now have half the machine gun firepower when strafing enemy aircraft or ground units. Additionnally, you still retain the exact same payload as other Su-2 series aircraft, so ground-pounding ordnance isn't affected. Whether or not such a gain and loss of attributes compared to the previous MV-5 model is worth it is up to you. | ||
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+ | Of special mention is the TSS turret, the most obvious change compared to the MB-5 turret. The TSS being a scarff ring mount means that it loses the ability to traverse directly to the starboard and port of the aircraft, but you now have increased traverse under the elevators which makes for improved overall defensive coverage of the rear ShKAS machine gun. The gunner is now fully exposed to rear shots, however, so an unfortunate spray of even rifle-calibre bullets can end your sole ability to return fire against pursuers, compared to the MB-5 which requires the rear turret to be destroyed before incoming bullets have a chance to reach the gunner without interference. | ||
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+ | === Manual Engine Control === | ||
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− | ! rowspan="2" |Pitch | + | ! rowspan="2" | Pitch |
− | ! colspan="3" |Radiator | + | ! colspan="3" | Radiator |
− | ! rowspan="2" |Supercharger | + | ! rowspan="2" | Supercharger |
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
− | <!--''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle | + | <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' --> |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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+ | * Agile ground attacker | ||
+ | * Fast top speed | ||
+ | * Can serve as emergency fighter if needed | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * | + | |
+ | * The speed was gained in exchange of losses in offensive and defensive capabilities (halved offensive weaponry, and armour removed) | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
− | ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too | + | <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' --> |
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+ | {{break}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Start|{{Annotation|Archive of the in-game description|An archive of the historical description of the vehicle that was presented in-game prior to Update 1.55 'Royal Armour'}}|expand=true}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}} | ||
+ | OKB Sukhoi BB-1 (Su-2) "Ivanov" Short-Range Bomber with M-88 engine | ||
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+ | In December of 1940, the BB-1 was renamed the Su-2, after designer Pavel Osipovich Sukhoi, and began to be constructed with the M-88 engine. | ||
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+ | This engine, developed in the Tumansky OKB, was an upgrade of the M-87. The M-88 retained the original design scheme (air-cooled, radial, 14-cylinder) and had a takeoff power capacity of 1,100 hp. | ||
+ | |||
+ | However, unreliable operation caused serious problems. The M-88 was continually suffering from piston burnouts, shaking, and increased oil consumption. Oil splatters leaking from the engine would splash on the cabin's transparent bottom, under the navigator, making it more difficult to aim bombs. In addition, the decision to replace the plexiglass canopy with celluloid was a mistake, as the new material quickly lost its transparency, reducing visibility. Nevertheless, the crew did appreciate the warm, closed cabin. | ||
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+ | Some of the Su-2s were equipped with rockets. Instead of bombs under the wings, five unguided PC-82 or PC-132 rockets could be installed in each location. | ||
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+ | A new variant of the Su-2 was released in early 1941, featuring the M-88B engine. This modification improved the aircraft's performance. The oil cooler was moved to the midsection and the shape of the hood and suction pipe were changed. The plane's armament was somewhat reduced to facilitate construction. Instead of four ShKAS guns in the winds, two guns were installed, with 850 rounds of ammunition per gun. The bulky MB-5 tail turret was replaced with a TSS-1 turret, with a ShKas 7.62 mm machine gun and 900 rounds of ammunition. However, the turret suffered from a number of problems, including a limited angle of fire and difficulty firing when in an air stream. In the spring of 1941, 250 aircraft were produced with the TSS-1. Afterwards, the MB-5 was used. Bomb and rocket payloads remained unchanged. | ||
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+ | The Red Army Air Force began to use the Su-2 in combat during the second half of 1940. By the beginning of World War II on June 22, 1941, 213 Su-2s were in service. | ||
+ | {{Navigation-End}} | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
− | '' | + | <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' --> |
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+ | ;Skins | ||
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+ | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su-2_tss1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
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+ | ;Videos | ||
+ | {{Youtube-gallery|UDvzWT2BSg4|'''The Shooting Range #28''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 03:22 discusses the Sukhoi Su-2.}} | ||
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+ | == See also == | ||
+ | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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− | == | + | == External links == |
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
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* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' | ||
− | {{USSR | + | {{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}} |
+ | {{USSR strike aircraft}} |
Latest revision as of 22:06, 15 December 2023
This page is about the Soviet strike aircraft Su-2 TSS-1. For other variants, see Su-2 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The Su-2 TSS-1 is a rank I Soviet strike aircraft with a battle rating of 1.7 (AB/SB) and 2.0 (RB). It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
General info
Flight performance
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 7,100 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 493 | 477 | 9120 | 25.9 | 26.6 | 6.7 | 6.7 | 369 |
Upgraded | 533 | 512 | 24.2 | 25.0 | 11.7 | 8.9 |
Details
Features | ||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear |
✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
620 | 350 | 394 | 340 | 340 | ~8 | ~4 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
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Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 280 | < 240 | < 500 | > 190 |
Survivability and armour
- No armour protection
- Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 in each wing, 1 in front of the pilot)
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Offensive armament
The Su-2 TSS-1 is armed with:
- 2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns, wing-mounted (850 rpg = 1,700 total)
Suspended armament
The Su-2 TSS-1 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 4 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (200 kg total)
- 12 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (600 kg total)
- 4 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (400 kg total)
- 6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (600 kg total)
- 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
- 2 x 220 kg BRAB-220 (1930) bombs (440 kg total)
Defensive armament
The Su-2 TSS-1 is defended by:
- 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, dorsal turret (1,000 rpg)
Usage in battles
The Su-2 TSS-1 is an interesting aircraft compared to its brethren. On one hand, you now have improved speed and agility (not to Chaika levels though, so don't go dogfighting). On the other hand, however, you now have half the machine gun firepower when strafing enemy aircraft or ground units. Additionnally, you still retain the exact same payload as other Su-2 series aircraft, so ground-pounding ordnance isn't affected. Whether or not such a gain and loss of attributes compared to the previous MV-5 model is worth it is up to you.
Of special mention is the TSS turret, the most obvious change compared to the MB-5 turret. The TSS being a scarff ring mount means that it loses the ability to traverse directly to the starboard and port of the aircraft, but you now have increased traverse under the elevators which makes for improved overall defensive coverage of the rear ShKAS machine gun. The gunner is now fully exposed to rear shots, however, so an unfortunate spray of even rifle-calibre bullets can end your sole ability to return fire against pursuers, compared to the MB-5 which requires the rear turret to be destroyed before incoming bullets have a chance to reach the gunner without interference.
Manual Engine Control
MEC elements | ||||||
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Mixer | Pitch | Radiator | Supercharger | Turbocharger | ||
Oil | Water | Type | ||||
Controllable | Controllable Not auto controlled |
Controllable Not auto controlled |
Controllable Not auto controlled |
Separate | Controllable 2 gears |
Not controllable |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Agile ground attacker
- Fast top speed
- Can serve as emergency fighter if needed
Cons:
- The speed was gained in exchange of losses in offensive and defensive capabilities (halved offensive weaponry, and armour removed)
History
Archive of the in-game description | |
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OKB Sukhoi BB-1 (Su-2) "Ivanov" Short-Range Bomber with M-88 engine In December of 1940, the BB-1 was renamed the Su-2, after designer Pavel Osipovich Sukhoi, and began to be constructed with the M-88 engine. This engine, developed in the Tumansky OKB, was an upgrade of the M-87. The M-88 retained the original design scheme (air-cooled, radial, 14-cylinder) and had a takeoff power capacity of 1,100 hp. However, unreliable operation caused serious problems. The M-88 was continually suffering from piston burnouts, shaking, and increased oil consumption. Oil splatters leaking from the engine would splash on the cabin's transparent bottom, under the navigator, making it more difficult to aim bombs. In addition, the decision to replace the plexiglass canopy with celluloid was a mistake, as the new material quickly lost its transparency, reducing visibility. Nevertheless, the crew did appreciate the warm, closed cabin. Some of the Su-2s were equipped with rockets. Instead of bombs under the wings, five unguided PC-82 or PC-132 rockets could be installed in each location. A new variant of the Su-2 was released in early 1941, featuring the M-88B engine. This modification improved the aircraft's performance. The oil cooler was moved to the midsection and the shape of the hood and suction pipe were changed. The plane's armament was somewhat reduced to facilitate construction. Instead of four ShKAS guns in the winds, two guns were installed, with 850 rounds of ammunition per gun. The bulky MB-5 tail turret was replaced with a TSS-1 turret, with a ShKas 7.62 mm machine gun and 900 rounds of ammunition. However, the turret suffered from a number of problems, including a limited angle of fire and difficulty firing when in an air stream. In the spring of 1941, 250 aircraft were produced with the TSS-1. Afterwards, the MB-5 was used. Bomb and rocket payloads remained unchanged. The Red Army Air Force began to use the Su-2 in combat during the second half of 1940. By the beginning of World War II on June 22, 1941, 213 Su-2s were in service. |
Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
Sukhoi Design Bureau (Сухого Опытное конструкторское бюро) | |
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