AMX-30 Super

This page is about the premium French medium tank AMX-30 Super. For other versions, see AMX-30 (Family).

AMX-30 Super

AMX-30 Super

France

VI Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
9.3	9.3	9.3

Class:

PREMIUM

Medium tank

Purchase:8 910

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Description

The AMX-30 Super is the third upgraded subvariant of the AMX-30B, which is the second variant of the AMX-30 main battle tank family. A consortium of West German companies designed the AMX-30 Super modernisation package for the AMX-30B (Model 1972) in the late 1980s. AEG, Krupp Atlas Elektronik, MTU, Wegmann & Co., Diehl, ZF Friedrichshafen, and GLS formed the consortium. The power packs were upgraded with a new MTU MB833 Ka501 diesel engine with 850 horsepower, a ZF LSG-3000 automatic transmission, a new engine cooling system, and a fuel capacity increase to 1,028 litres. Upgraded torsion bars, hydraulic shock absorbers, new somewhat wider road wheels, and Diehl Type 234 tracks are also part of the mobility upgrade. The fire control systems have been upgraded with Krupp Atlas Elektronik's MOLF-30 modular laser FCS, a two-plane fully automatic stabilization system, and modern gunner thermal imaging equipment. Additional turret armour is also available per buyer request. A single prototype was created, publicly displayed, and tested in Saudi Arabia. The upgrade was unable to find a customer.

Introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy" as a premium pack, the AMX-30 Super is the third and final upgrade of the base variant AMX-30B. The AMX-30 Super is equipped with a much-needed two-plane fully automatic stabilization system. Players can now take part in urban fights and lead assaults, which were previously impossible in practically all older variants of the AMX-30 main battle tanks. The familiar coaxial armament, the dual-purpose 20 mm GIAT M693 autocannon, has been removed, and the original M2HB Browning heavy machine gun has replaced it. It was removed from the Gaijin store after the 2023 New Year sale and returned as a permanent premium vehicle you can buy with GE at the end of January 2024.

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades

Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle

Armourfront / side / back

Hull79 / 35 / 30

Turret63 / 42 / 30

Crew4 people

Visibility88 %

Armour type:

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	___ mm	___ mm Top ___ mm Bottom	___ mm	___ - ___ mm
Turret	___ - ___ mm Turret front ___ mm Gun mantlet	___ - ___ mm	___ - ___ mm	___ - ___ mm
Cupola	___ mm	___ mm	___ mm	___ mm

Notes:

The armour protection, as common in many European MBTs such as the Leopard I, isn't enough to stop anything apart from heavy machine guns and 30 mm shells (although the sides and the rear are vulnerable even to 20 mm autocannon such as those on the AMX-30 and MBT-70), but sometimes the angles of the hull will bounce some shells. The turret is not great as most shells will penetrate it, often killing the gunner and detonating the ammunition in the rear of the turret. Unlike the Leopard I, the AMX-30 Super is capable of carrying enough ammunition in the turret to fight, leaving the hull relatively safe, but this comes with a price: whenever the tank is hit in the turret, there's a high chance that the ammunition will catch fire.

The fuel tank in the hull can stop some heat shells, but it's not something to rely on. Given the high mobility of the tank and the two-plane stabilizer, the vehicle gives his best when moving fast and hitting the enemy from the distance.

Mobility

Speedforward / back

AB73 / 52 km/h

RB and SB66 / 47 km/h

Number of gears8 forward

4 back

Weight36.5 t

Engine power

AB1 622 hp

RB and SB850 hp

Power-to-weight ratio

AB44.4 hp/t

RB and SB23.3 hp/t

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
	Forward	Reverse		Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	73	52	36.5	1,317	1,622	36.08	44.44
Realistic	66	47		752	850	20.6	23.29

The AMX-30 Super is fast and nimble. Its engine gives a specific power of 1,622 hp in AB and 850 hp in RB/SB. With a power-to-ton ratio of 23.2 hp/ton in RB/SB and 44.4 hp/ton in AB, this tank can certainly traverse the terrains smoothly. Being about 36.5 tons, this tank is relatively lighter than its competitors of similar BR. This tank can go up to 72 km/h in AB and 65 km/h in RB/SB forwards and it goes up to -30 km/h in AB and -27 km/h in RB/SB reverse.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost

AB3 085

RB3 148

SB3 887

Crew training10 000

Experts850 000

Aces2 100

Research Aces1 900 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

2 × 150 / 200 / 230 %

2 × 220 / 220 / 220 %

Modifications

Mobility	Protection	Firepower
Tracks Suspension Brake System Filters Transmission Engine	Improved Parts Improved FPE Crew Replenishment	Horizontal Drive 105mm_fr_CN105_Smoke_ammo_pack Adjustment of Fire 105mm_fr_CN105_APDSFS_ammo_pack Elevation Mechanism Smoke grenade Artillery Support Laser rangefinder NVD

Armaments

Laser rangefinder

Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder

Night vision device

Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination.

Thermal imager

Allows to see thermal radiation in the infrared range day and night

Main armament

105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon

Two-plane stabilizer

Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving

Ammunition50 rounds

First-order22 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

8.7 → 6.7 s

Vertical guidance-8° / 20°

The main armament of the AMX-30 Super is the 105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon, which is very similar to the likes of the 105 mm L7A3. The gun takes about 6.7 seconds to reload with an aced crew with max leadership and weapon reloading skill which is fairly standard among its competitors. This cannon fires APFSDS, HEAT, smoke and HE. It is recommended to at most keep 23 shells in the tank when playing Realistic Battles as its ready rack can carry 22 shells and this effectively removes all of the ammunition rack in the hull behind the fuel tanks (except 4 shells around the turret ring). It is recommended to take a loadout of mostly APFSDS with a few HEAT and Smoke shells just in case.

105 mm CN-105-F1					Turret rotation speed (°/s)					Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode	Capacity	Vertical	Horizontal	Stabilizer	Stock	Upgraded	Full	Expert	Aced	Stock	Full	Expert	Aced
Arcade	50	-8°/+20°	±180°	Two-plane	28.6	39.5	48.0	53.1	56.5	8.71	7.70	7.10	6.70
Realistic					17.9	21.0	25.5	28.2	30.0

Ammunition

The main shell, the OFL 105 F1 APFSDS, is very capable of penetrating most of what it sees with a frontal shot as it has 350 mm of penetration at 0 degrees from 500 m away. The OCC 105 F1 HEATFS may be very useful against light targets such as SPAAG or light tanks. The OFPH 105 F1 smoke shell provides extra ranged covering smoke in order to mask you or your team (possibly even blinding the enemy) in combat.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
OCC 105 F1	HEAT	400	400	400	400	400	400
OE 105 F1 Mle.60	HE	25	25	25	25	25	25
OFL 105 F1	APFSDS	361	358	350	341	332	322

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg)	Ricochet
							0%	50%	100%
OCC 105 F1	HEAT	1,000	10.95	0.05	0.1	1.02	62°	69°	73°
OE 105 F1 Mle.60	HE	700	12.1	0	0.1	2	79°	80°	81°
OFL 105 F1	APFSDS	1,525	3.8	-	-	-	78°	80°	81°

Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Screen radius (m)	Screen deploy time (s)	Screen hold time (s)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
OFPH 105 F1	700	11.4	20	5	25	50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMX-30 Super

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	5th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
50	23 (+27)	22 (+28)	19 (+31)	9 (+41)	1 (+49)	No

Notes:

• Shells are modeled individually and disappear from the rack after having been shot or loaded.
• Racks 2 to 5 are first order ammo racks (ready racks). They total 22 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
• These racks are also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1.
• To go into battle with the frontal ammo rack empty, pack 23 (+27) shells.

Optics and night vision

AMX-30 Super Optics
Type of optic	Magnification	Night Vision Devices
		Image Intensifier			Thermal Imager Resolution	Notes
		Resolution	Light Mult	Noise Level
Gunner's Sight	X8.0 - X12	-	-	-	500 x 300	-
Commander's View	X6	1600 x 1200	9.0	High	Not Fitted	-
Driver's View	X1	800 x 600	5.0	High	Not Fitted	-

Machine guns

12.7 mm M2HB machine gun (coaxial)

Ammunition800 rounds

Belt capacity200 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

10.4 → 8.0 s

Fire rate575 shots/min

Vertical guidance0° / 20°

7.62 mm MG3A1 machine gun

Ammunition2 200 rounds

Belt capacity200 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

10.4 → 8.0 s

Fire rate1 200 shots/min

The AMX-30 Super is armed with a coaxial 12.7 mm (.50 cal) inside its turret right beside the cannon and a lighter 7.62 mm (.30 cal) mounted on the roof near the commander's hatch. Although ditching the 20 mm typically found on other AMX-30s, the machine guns equipped can still deal fair damage to very lightly armoured vehicles.

12.7 mm M2HB
Mount	Capacity (Belt)	Fire rate	Vertical	Horizontal
Coaxial	800 (200)	577	0°/+20°	N/A

7.62 mm MG3A1
Mount	Capacity (Belt)	Fire rate	Vertical	Horizontal
Pintle	3,000 (200)	1,200	-10°/+45°	±120°

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

Pros:

• Great mobility
• Has stabilizer so it can shoot on the move unlike other AMX-30s
• Good survivability due to crew placement, as such it is difficult to knock it out with a single shot
• Has access to a variety of ammunition rounds

Cons:

• Commander's turret machine gun found on the French AMX-30s is replaced with MG3A1 which cannot deal very well with air targets
• The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank
• Most of the times, the shots that penetrate the tank will take out the engine
• Missing commander optics and commander fire control compared to other AMX-30s

History

During the second half of the 80s, a group of companies in West Germany developed an extensive program to modernize certain outdated tanks, including the French AMX-30B. A number of improvements were made to the French tank in order to enhance its firepower, increase its dynamic characteristics, and (optionally) enhance its armour to a certain extent.

The tank's firing potential was improved thanks to the installation of a MOLF fire control system with a stabilized sight and a stabilizer for the main gun. The tank's mobility was enhanced with a new 850-horsepower diesel engine, a German automatic transmission, and new torsion bars and hydraulic shock absorbers. The new tank was demonstrated to the public under the name "Super AMX-30" during testing in Saudi Arabia, but no buyers were found for the upgraded French tank, and only one Super AMX-30 was ever made.

- From Devblog

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the AMX-30 Super from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

French MBTs discusses the AMX-30 Super at 4:21 - War Thunder Official Channel

Premium Vehicles: AMX-30 Super - War Thunder Wiki

The Shooting Range #153 - Metal Beasts section at 00:35 discusses the AMX-30 Super.

AMX-30 Super Tank Review - Napalmratte

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis

• AMX-30 (Family)

Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

• Leopard A1A1
• Type 74

External links

• [Devblog] Super AMX-30: The Stabilizer Is Ready to Go!

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