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* 38 x SNEB Type 23 rockets | * 38 x SNEB Type 23 rockets | ||
| − | The ordinance if the Mystère II.C give it the ability to engage ground targets, but limits greatly it's | + | The ordinance if the Mystère II.C give it the ability to engage ground targets, but limits greatly it's maneuverability and should generally not be used in air RB except as a late game last resort. In mixed battles, the SNEB rockets can be an excellent anti-tank weapon for CAS, and the aircraft inserts well in the french 8.3 line-up. |
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | The Mystère II.C is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed. | + | The Mystère II.C is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighing becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements. Control stiffening doesn't appear under arround 1000-1050 km/h, and devastating armament will take out an enemy target in a single pass. Furthermore, top speed in level flight is slightly below average, justifying even more that tactic. |
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| + | Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and maneuverability parameters. | ||
===Modules=== | ===Modules=== | ||
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* Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon) | * Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon) | ||
* High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed | * High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed | ||
| − | * Good turn rate between 550 kph and | + | * Good turn rate between 550 kph and 800 kph |
* Decent climb rate | * Decent climb rate | ||
* Payloads can include bombs or rockets | * Payloads can include bombs or rockets | ||
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* A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons | * A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons | ||
* Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down | * Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down | ||
| − | * DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with | + | * DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 1 to 3 HE rounds striking |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| − | * | + | * Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft |
* Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors | * Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors | ||
| − | * Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult | + | * Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult, forcing a return to base for repairs |
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== History == | == History == | ||
Revision as of 13:12, 5 February 2020
Contents
| This page is about the French jet fighter M.D.452 IIC. For the other version, see M.D.452 IIA. |
Description
The M.D.452 Mystere IIC pre-production is a rank V French jet fighter
with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/SB) and 8.3 (RB). This aircraft was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".
General info
Flight Performance
At a battle rating of 8.3,the MD.452 IIC is something of a jack of all trades. It's flight performances are balanced, if a bit slow to accelerate. The roll rate is excellent at medium to high speeds (550 - 900 km/h), giving the type many options for evasive manoeuvers, and although energy-bleeding, the turn rate is good, against most enemies.The two fast firing 30 mm DEFA canons also compose a tremendously high firepower, if used with the correct type of ammunition.
| Characteristics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stock | |||||||
| Max Speed (km/h at Sea level) | Max altitude (meters) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (meters/second) |
Take-off run (meters) | |||
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | ||
| 1,036 | 1,027 | 13000 | 26.4 | 27.0 | 33.3 | 31.6 | 800 |
| Upgraded | |||||||
| Max Speed (km/h at Sea level) |
Max altitude (meters) | Turn time (seconds) | Rate of climb (meters/second) |
Take-off run (meters) | |||
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | ||
| ? | ? | 13000 | ??.? | ??.? | ?.? | ?.? | 800 |
Details
| Features | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flap | Take-off flap | Landing flap | Air brakes | Arrestor gear |
| ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X |
| Limits | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wing-break speed (km/h) |
Gear limit (km/h) |
Combat flap (km/h) |
Max Static G | |
| + | - | |||
| ??? | 445 | ??? | 11.5 | 3.7 |
| Optimal velocities | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons (km/h) |
Rudder (km/h) |
Elevators (km/h) |
Radiator (km/h) |
| < ??? | < ??? | < ??? | > ??? |
Survivability and armour
- 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
- 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
- 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot
Armaments
Offensive armament
The M.D.452 IIC is armed with:
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, nose-mounted (150 RPG) = 300 total)
The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just before the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire with each other until empty..
This aircraft is the first of the french jets to use 30mm DEFA canons, wich are as of yet (feb. 2020), the best 30mm guns in the game, with the highest shell velocity, RoF, and gun reliability. While the default ammunition is underwhelming, the air-target ammunition will shred enemy fighters with a single or a couple of shells. Heavier targets might need 3-5 hits to loose a wing.
Suspended armament
The M.D.452 IIC utilize external pylons to carry various configurations of:
- None
- 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
- 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs
- 38 x SNEB Type 23 rockets
The ordinance if the Mystère II.C give it the ability to engage ground targets, but limits greatly it's maneuverability and should generally not be used in air RB except as a late game last resort. In mixed battles, the SNEB rockets can be an excellent anti-tank weapon for CAS, and the aircraft inserts well in the french 8.3 line-up.
Usage in battles
The Mystère II.C is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighing becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements. Control stiffening doesn't appear under arround 1000-1050 km/h, and devastating armament will take out an enemy target in a single pass. Furthermore, top speed in level flight is slightly below average, justifying even more that tactic.
Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and maneuverability parameters.
Modules
| Tier | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry |
|---|---|---|---|
| IA | Fuselage Repair | Offensive 30 mm belts | |
| II | New Boosters/Compressor | Air frame | SBC-17 (500lb bombs) x2 |
| III | Wing Repair/Engine | New 30 mm cannons/ LBC-25 (1000lb bombs x2 | |
| IV | G-suit | Cover | Matra SNEB Rockets x38 |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
- High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
- Good turn rate between 550 kph and 800 kph
- Decent climb rate
- Payloads can include bombs or rockets
- More effective air brake than its predecessors
- A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons
- Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down
- DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 1 to 3 HE rounds striking
Cons:
- Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft
- Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
- Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult, forcing a return to base for repairs
History
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Media
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See also
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- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
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| France fighters | |
|---|---|
| Dewoitine | D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520 |
| Morane-Saulnier | M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410 |
| Arsenal | V.G.33C-1 |
| Bloch | M.B.152C1 · M.B.157 |
| Caudron | C.R.714 |
| Sud-Ouest | S.O.8000 Narval |
| American | H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA |
| ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B | |
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| Belgium | ▄Gladiator Mk I · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe |
| Netherlands | ◘Sea Fury FB 51 |
