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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
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[[File:GarageImage_M.D.452IIC.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Flight performance ===
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=== Flight Performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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The MD.452 IIC is something of a jack of all trades. Its flight performance is balanced, if a bit slow to accelerate. The roll rate is excellent at medium to high speeds (550 - 900 km/h), giving the aircraft many options for evasive manoeuvres, and although energy-bleeding, the turn rate is good against most enemies. The two fast-firing 30 mm DEFA canons also compose tremendous firepower, if used with suitable ammunition.
 
  
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
 
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! Stock
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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| 1,035 || 1,027 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 26.3 || 26.9 || 32.9 || 31.1 || rowspan="2" | 800
 
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at Sea level)
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| 1,051 || 1,044 || 23.4 || 24.8 || 48.1 || 40.0
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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==== Details ====
 
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! RB
 
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
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| 1,036 || 1,027 || {{Specs|ceiling}} ||26.4|| 27.0 ||33.3||31.6|| 800
 
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at Sea level)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
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! colspan="7" | Limits
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! AB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || 800
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
 
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 627 || 598 || 450 || ~11 || ~4
 
 
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====Details====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
 
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| < 620 || < 700 || < 740 || N/A
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| X || X || X || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
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==== Engine performance ====
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
 
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101D3 ||  1
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| colspan="2" | 5,900 kg || colspan="2" | 241 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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! -
 
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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| ??? ||445|| ??? || 11.5 ||3.7
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
 
 
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| 6,308 kg || 7,067 kg || 7,300 kg || 10,500 kg
 
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 
 
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 7m fuel || 20m fuel || 24m fuel || MTOW
 
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 2,911 kgf || N/A
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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| 0.46 || 0.41 || 0.40 || 0.28
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,178 kgf<br />(1,100 km/h) || N/A
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| < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ???
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| 0.50 || 0.45 || 0.44 || 0.30
 
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
 
* 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
 
* 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
 
* 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
 
* 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot
 
* 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot
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=== Modifications and economy ===
 
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|DEFA 541 (30 mm)}}
 
{{main|DEFA 541 (30 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
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* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, belly-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
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* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, nose-mounted (150 RPG) = 300 total)
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The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just behind the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire together until empty.
 
  
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This aircraft is the first of the French jets to use 30 mm DEFA canons, which are (as of Update 1.95) the best 30 mm guns in the game, with the highest shell velocity, rate of fire, and gun reliability. While the default ammunition is underwhelming, the "air targets" ammunition will shred enemy fighters with a single or a couple of shells. Heavier targets might need 3-5 hits to lose a wing.
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The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just before the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire with each other until empty.
  
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=== Suspended armament===
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|SNEB type 23}}
 
  
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' utilize external pylons to carry various configurations of:
  
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* None
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* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
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* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs
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* 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
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* 38 x SNEB Type 23 rockets
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The ordnance of the {{PAGENAME}} gives it the ability to engage ground targets, but limits its manoeuvrability greatly and should generally not be used in Air RB except as a late game last resort. In mixed battles, the SNEB rockets can be an excellent anti-tank weapon for CAS, and the aircraft inserts well in the French BR 8.3 line-up.
 
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The {{PAGENAME}} is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, the option of turnfighting becomes available, although speed will be bled at a relatively high rate. Still, like the predecessors of the Mystère II, boom & zooming should remain the first choice in engagements. Control stiffening doesn't appear under around 1,000-1,050 km/h, and devastating armament will take out an enemy target in a single pass. Furthermore, top speed in level flight is slightly below average, justifying even more that tactic.
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The M.D.452 IIC offers better ordinance than it's an earlier in-game variant, the IIA. This makes it more effective in Tank RB and allows use as a fighter-bomber in Air RB. It is generally more manoeuvrable than most other 8.7 aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this BR would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, it opens up the playing field a bit more.
  
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Overall, the Mystère IIC should be considered as buffed Ouragan/Barougan, increasing drastically the top speed, armament, and manoeuvrability parameters.
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
 
* Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
 
* High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
 
* High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
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* Good turn rate between 550 km/h and 800 km/h
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* Good turn rate between 550kmh and 700kmh
 
* Decent climb rate
 
* Decent climb rate
 
* Payloads can include bombs or rockets
 
* Payloads can include bombs or rockets
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* More effective air brake than its predecessors
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* More effective airbrake than its predecessors
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* A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons
 
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* Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down
 
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* DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 1 to 3 HE rounds striking
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Slightly slower to other contemporary aircraft
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* Slow compared to other contemporary aircraft
 
* Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
 
* Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
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* Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult, forcing a return to base for repairs
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* Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult
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* Low ammo amount; ammo trigger discipline is required
  
 
== History ==
 
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[[File:M.D.452 'Mystere'.jpg|thumb]]
 
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The M.D.452 Mystère was a swept-wing air superiority fighter developed by Dassault Aviation, derived from the M.D.450 Ouragan. The aircraft combined the fuselage of the Ouragan with a new swept-wing, enabling it to reach much faster speeds than its predecessor. In 1951, the Mystère IIA became the first French-designed plane to break the sound barrier, in a controlled dive.<ref name=":0">http://www.airvectors.net/avmyst.html ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210428191744/http://www.airvectors.net/avmyst.html Archive])</ref> Later on, the M.D.452 IIC would enter service with the French Air force, and serve until 1957, when it was relegated to training duties.<ref name=":1">https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/md-452-mystere-ii/# ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210504192518/https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/md-452-mystere-ii/ Archive])</ref>
 
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====== Design and Development ======
 
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The M.D.452 Mystère was originally designed as an advanced variant of the preceding M.D.450 Ouragan, with a new wing section and engine. In 1950, Marcel Dassault, the head of the Dassault aviation firm, signed a contract to produce an M.D.450 Ouragan with a new thinner wing section.<ref name=":1" /> The aircraft had a wing swept back at 30 degrees compared to the Ouragan's 14 degrees, and was powered by a license-built version of the Rolls-Royce Nene. During tests, the aircraft showed significantly better climb rate and top speed, being capable of reaching transonic speeds. After four prototypes, the M.D.452 IIA was developed, carrying four 20 mm M50 (Hispano-derived) cannons and the Rolls-Royce Tay engine. On October 28th 1951, a Mystère IIA Became the first French aircraft to break the sound barrier, in a controlled dive.<ref name=":0" />
 
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However, the M.D.452 IIA failed to enter service, as it was rapidly replaced by the M.D.452 IIB and IIC. The IIB and IIC retained the wing and fuselage of the IIA, while featuring a new intake design and a pair of 30 mm DEFA cannons in place of the IIA's four M50s.<ref name=":0" /> The new IIC was re-engined with a SNECMA Atar turbojet, capable of producing 25 kN of thrust. The M.D.452 IIC would later go on to enter service, serving between 1954 and 1963.
 
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In 1954, the French Air service placed an order for 150 M.D.452 IIC aircraft, which were delivered between 1954 and 1957.<ref name=":1" /> These aircraft carried a SNECMA Atar 101-D (producing 29 kN thrust),<ref>https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/md-452/ ([https://web.archive.org/save/https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/md-452/ Archive])</ref> but were otherwise identical to the IIC prototypes. In total, 171 Dassault Mystères were built, including prototypes of the IIA, IIB and IIC variants. By the time of the last deliveries, the aircraft was already being relegated to advanced training duties; the rapid pace of aviation technology during the 1950s led to the aircraft rapidly becoming obsolete.<ref name=":0" /> The last M.D. 452 IIC was retired from training duties in 1963, after 9 years of service with the French Air Force.
 
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
  
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{{Youtube-gallery|fa1_8SqJcT0|'''The Shooting Range #97''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 06:04 discusses the Dassault Mystère II.}}
 
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* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/402783-dassault-md452a-mystere-iic-atar-101/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
 
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Revision as of 10:17, 13 July 2019

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M.D.452 IIC
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M.D.452 IIC
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Battle rating:
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This page is about the French jet fighter M.D.452 IIC. For the other version, see M.D.452 IIA.

Description

GarageImage M.D.452 IIC.jpg


The M.D.452 Mystere IIC pre-production is a Rank V French jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/SB) and 8.3 (RB). This aircraft was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed (km/h at Sea level) Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,036 1,027 13000 26.4 27.0 33.3 31.6 800
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at Sea level) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 13000  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.? 800

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
+ -
 ??? 445  ??? 11.5 3.7
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???

Survivability and armour

  • 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 541 (30 mm)

The M.D.452 IIC is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, nose-mounted (150 RPG) = 300 total)

The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just before the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire with each other until empty.

Suspended armament

Main articles: AN-M64A1 (500 lb), AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb), SNEB Type 23

The M.D.452 IIC utilize external pylons to carry various configurations of:

  • None
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs
  • 38 x SNEB Type 23 rockets

Usage in battles

The M.D.452 IIC offers better ordinance than it's an earlier in-game variant, the IIA. This makes it more effective in Tank RB and allows use as a fighter-bomber in Air RB. It is generally more manoeuvrable than most other 8.7 aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this BR would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, it opens up the playing field a bit more.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
IA
II
III
IV

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
  • High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
  • Good turn rate between 550kmh and 700kmh
  • Decent climb rate
  • Payloads can include bombs or rockets
  • More effective airbrake than its predecessors

Cons:

  • Slow compared to other contemporary aircraft
  • Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
  • Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult
  • Low ammo amount; ammo trigger discipline is required

History

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Media

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See also

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France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900

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