C. 205N2

This page is about the Italian fighter C. 205N2. For other versions, see C.205 (Family).

C. 205N2

C. 202EC

C. 205 serie 3

C. 205N2

C. 202EC

C. 205 serie 3

Italy

III Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
5.0	4.7	4.7

Class:

Fighter

Research:26 000

Purchase:76 000

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Description

The C. 205N2 is a rank III Italian fighter with a battle rating of 5.0 (AB) and 4.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica".

The C.205N2, also known as "Orion" ("Orion") was the next development of the C.205V Veltro, during 1942-1943 the Regia Aeronautica requested an upgrade for the C.205, the C.205N1 prototype was created in 1942 with larger wings and a longer fuselage but only armed with 12.7mm, but it was not accepted due to its poor armament, in 1943 the second prototype of the C.205N named C.205N2 with a more powerful engine and the addition in the fuselage of a 20mm cannon inside the crankshaft, thanks to its improved armament the C.205N2 was accepted by the Regia Aeronautica but due to lack of resources and the Armistice, it was abandoned and remained at the prototype stage.

The C.205N2 is an excellent fighter for both turn-fight and energy-fight, introduced with the Italian Tech tree aircraft in the 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" update, the fighter proves to be very manoeuvrable both at high speed and low speed, while if we talk about the armament thanks to the three 20mm and two 12.7mm you can cause in a few shots the destruction of the enemy aircraft thanks to the anti-aircraft belts that contain many incendiary shots.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed

at 6 700 m659 km/h

Turn time20 s

Max altitude10 360 m

EngineDaimler-Benz DB-605A

TypeInline

Cooling systemWater

Take-off weight4 t

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 6,700 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	635	618	10360	21.2	21.9	13.6	13.6	250
Upgraded	685	659		18.9	20.0	20.6	16.7

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear
✓	✓	✓	X	X

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
845	300	535	450	260	~14	~5

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 400	< 270	< 550	> 380

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear300 km/h

• 8 mm Steel plating behind pilot
• 50 mm bullet-proof glass

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB1 058 → 1 346

RB2 376 → 3 024

SB3 532 → 4 496

Total cost of modifications25 200

45 900

Talisman cost1 100

Crew training22 000

Experts76 000

Aces500

Research Aces320 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

60 / 140 / 300 %

142 / 142 / 142 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Fuselage repair Research: 1 700 Cost: 3 100 140 Radiator Research: 1 700 Cost: 3 100 140 Compressor Research: 1 900 Cost: 3 500 155 Wings repair Research: 2 100 Cost: 3 800 170 Engine Research: 2 100 Cost: 3 800 170 Engine injection Research: 2 700 Cost: 4 900 220	Airframe Research: 1 900 Cost: 3 500 155 Cover Research: 2 700 Cost: 4 900 220	safat12_belt_pack Research: 1 700 Cost: 3 100 140 safat12_new_gun Research: 1 900 Cost: 3 500 155 mg15120_belt_pack Research: 2 100 Cost: 3 800 170 mg15120_new_gun Research: 2 700 Cost: 4 900 220

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 13 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon

Ammunition750 rounds

Fire rate700 shots/min

Weapon 22 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun

Ammunition800 rounds

Fire rate700 shots/min

The C. 205N2 is armed with:

• 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (250 rpg)
• 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
• 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

The two of the cannons are each mounted in wing. A single 20 mm cannon is mounted in the nose of the aircraft, firing through the propeller hub. The two machine guns are nose mounted, positioned between the pilot and the engine of the aircraft. If fired continuously, the wing mounted cannons will run out of ammunition before the nose-mounted cannon.

Usage in battles

The C.205N2 belongs to the select few planes who are good for Boom and Zoom as well as turnfighting, it is an extremely balanced multi-role aircraft. It should be played neither at low altitude nor at high altitude, but in-between at medium altitude. It has no problem dealing with all other fighters at its BR, due to its ability to retain energy well. It can hold its own against Bf 109s, Fw 190s and P-51s. It can fight well against Spitfires (with some skill on the pilot's part).

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer	Pitch	Radiator			Supercharger	Turbocharger
		Oil	Water	Type
Not controllable	Controllable Not auto controlled	Controllable Not auto controlled	Controllable Not auto controlled	Separate	Not controllable 1 gear	Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

• High roll rate
• Good firepower
• Good acceleration, top speed and climb rate
• Short turn radius
• Good energy retention in BnZ
• High structural strength
• Lots of ammunition
• Aircraft cooling is very efficient even in hot maps

Cons:

• Roll rate deteriorates and control surfaces stiffen beyond 600 km/h (373 mph)
• Loses its manoeuvrability at low speed

History

The C.205N2 was a further development of the C.205V Veltro, Macchi engineers tried to perfect the C.205V design and they developed the "Orione" variant with 2 different prototypes: the new variants got increased firepower and high-altitude performance. To achieve this, the engineers made the fuselage longer and increased the wingspan of the aircraft and in the second prototype they have adapted the fuselage for a 20 mm cannon within the engine shaft.

C.205N2 (MM.500) on the airfield

The first prototype C.205N1 (MM.499) flew on 1 November 1942 by Guido Carestiato to be later sent to Guidonia Experimental Centre for official evaluation in a fighter competition. After it, the Macchi engineers built the second variant: the C.205N2 (MM.500) was flown 19 May 1943 by Lonate Pozzolo, later also flying to Guidonia for military acceptance testing.

The first prototype C.205N1 was not accepted because the armament was not compliance with official specifications by the Tender Committee, the Macchi C.205N1 armament was armed with one 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon mounted in the fuselage and firing through the hollow hub of the propeller, and four 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns. Meanwhile, the C.205N2 has a pair of wing-mounted 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons instead of the original 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns and a 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon within the engine block.

However, as the war in the Mediterranean was drawing to a close and resources dwindling, the project failed to influence the outcome of the war as it never left prototype stage.

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the C. 205N2 from live.warthunder.com.

Images

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  C.205N2 Destroying an American B-17

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  C.205N2 in formation

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  C.205N2 in formation

Videos

The Shooting Range #111 - War Machines section at 05:25 discusses the C.205N2.

The Shooting Range #78 - Pages of History section at 10:44 discusses the C.205N.

The Shooting Range #49 - Pages of History section at 07:02 discusses the C.205.

See also

Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

• G.55 (Family)

External links

• [Vehicle Profile] Macchi C.205N2 Orione - "Rome's Shooting Star"
• Official data sheet - more details about the performance