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* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total) | * 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total) | ||
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+ | The guns, while deadly if they hit, have slow velocity, so it is important to get close to targets to ensure a hit. The armor-piercing shells are also very effective for taking out pillboxes, so while grinding out modifications keep in mind that extra points can be easily gained by shooting down a few light pillboxes. They can also penetrate the roof of most MBT's, so it is possible to destroy high level tanks in mixed battles when attacking from directly above purely with the guns. | ||
=== Suspended armament === | === Suspended armament === | ||
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* 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles | * 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles | ||
* 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles + 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets | * 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles + 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets | ||
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+ | The Mystere has access to incredibly powerful rocket armaments. The heavy duty T10 151 rockets perform similarly to US HVARs, being rather slow, but deadly upon direct hit. They are very effective when attacking heavy tanks, as well as pillboxes, displaying 390 mm of penetration at a 30 degree angle. The other option is the high velocity SNEB type 23, which is effective for attacking medium tanks and MBT's, as well as light pillboxes. There is an option to have the SNEBs be mounted inside the fuselage, which will cause them to be launched 5 at a time just under the nose of the plane, for increased accuracy. | ||
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+ | The AA.20 Nord air-to-air missiles are manually guided and not very agile, so they are best used against slow moving targets with a steady heading like Tu-4s. They are also very effective in head-on engagements with practice from the user. | ||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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In air realistic battles, the Mystere is a very deadly aircraft in the hands of a good pilot. | In air realistic battles, the Mystere is a very deadly aircraft in the hands of a good pilot. | ||
− | Due to | + | Due to its very bad energy retention in maneuvers, it is best used in more of a "boom and zoom" role, where it dives on unsuspecting enemies and delivers a quick death with the lethal 30 mm cannons. If forced to engage another aircraft that the Mystere is unable to escape, it performs best enacting a reversal, as the very good roll rate and poor energy retention will make it easy to make other aircraft overshoot. This is especially effective against MiG-15s and 17s, who will easily win a sustained turn-fight, but will have a hard time getting guns on target. Against more agile American aircraft, it is recommended to lure the plane as close as possible due to the poor speed. The majority of aircraft will easily be able to extend away after overshooting, so it is vital to equalize your energy states as much as possible, and be as close as possible for a firing solution once the enemy overshoots. |
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== History == | == History == | ||
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The Mystere IVA was used extensively by Israel throughout the late 50s, notably during the Suez Crisis of 1956. During combat missions there, the aircraft utilized superior performance to claim multiple MiG fighters, as well as a few De Havilland Vampires. | The Mystere IVA was used extensively by Israel throughout the late 50s, notably during the Suez Crisis of 1956. During combat missions there, the aircraft utilized superior performance to claim multiple MiG fighters, as well as a few De Havilland Vampires. | ||
Revision as of 19:31, 31 December 2021
This page is about the French jet fighter Mystere IVA. For other versions, see Mystere (Family). |
Contents
Description
The M.D.454 Mystere IVA is a rank VI French jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB) and 8.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Red Skies".
General info
Flight performance
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 1,073 | 1,039 | 13000 | 26.1 | 27.2 | 27.2 | 27.2 | 800 |
Upgraded | 1,124 | 1,109 | 24.2 | 25.0 | 48.1 | 37.0 |
Details
Features | |||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
1,166 | 447 | 620 | 586 | 408 | ~12 | ~4 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
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Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 590 | < 610 | < 635 | N/A |
Engine performance
Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
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Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
Hispano-Suiza Verdon-350 | 1 | 6,028 kg | 250 kg/m2 | ||||
Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
Weight (each) | Type | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 33m fuel | ||
950 kg | Centrifugal-flow turbojet | 6,615 kg | 7,204 kg | 7,791 kg | 7,986 kg | 9,600 kg | |
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | ||||||
Condition | 100% | WEP | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 33m fuel | MTOW |
Stationary | 3,300 kgf | N/A | 0.50 | 0.46 | 0.42 | 0.41 | 0.34 |
Optimal | 3,300 kgf (0 km/h) |
N/A | 0.50 | 0.46 | 0.42 | 0.41 | 0.34 |
Survivability and armour
- Armour plates
- 16 mm steel - in front of cockpit
- 16 mm steel - behind pilot
- 40 mm bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Offensive armament
The Mystere IVA is armed with:
- 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
The guns, while deadly if they hit, have slow velocity, so it is important to get close to targets to ensure a hit. The armor-piercing shells are also very effective for taking out pillboxes, so while grinding out modifications keep in mind that extra points can be easily gained by shooting down a few light pillboxes. They can also penetrate the roof of most MBT's, so it is possible to destroy high level tanks in mixed battles when attacking from directly above purely with the guns.
Suspended armament
The Mystere IVA can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total)
- 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
- 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
- 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
- 12 x T10 151 rockets
- 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets
- 93 x SNEB type 23 rockets
- 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 12 x T10 151 rockets
- 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (800 kg total)
- 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
- 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets + 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
- 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles
- 2 x AA-20 Nord missiles + 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets
The Mystere has access to incredibly powerful rocket armaments. The heavy duty T10 151 rockets perform similarly to US HVARs, being rather slow, but deadly upon direct hit. They are very effective when attacking heavy tanks, as well as pillboxes, displaying 390 mm of penetration at a 30 degree angle. The other option is the high velocity SNEB type 23, which is effective for attacking medium tanks and MBT's, as well as light pillboxes. There is an option to have the SNEBs be mounted inside the fuselage, which will cause them to be launched 5 at a time just under the nose of the plane, for increased accuracy.
The AA.20 Nord air-to-air missiles are manually guided and not very agile, so they are best used against slow moving targets with a steady heading like Tu-4s. They are also very effective in head-on engagements with practice from the user.
Usage in battles
In air realistic battles, the Mystere is a very deadly aircraft in the hands of a good pilot.
Due to its very bad energy retention in maneuvers, it is best used in more of a "boom and zoom" role, where it dives on unsuspecting enemies and delivers a quick death with the lethal 30 mm cannons. If forced to engage another aircraft that the Mystere is unable to escape, it performs best enacting a reversal, as the very good roll rate and poor energy retention will make it easy to make other aircraft overshoot. This is especially effective against MiG-15s and 17s, who will easily win a sustained turn-fight, but will have a hard time getting guns on target. Against more agile American aircraft, it is recommended to lure the plane as close as possible due to the poor speed. The majority of aircraft will easily be able to extend away after overshooting, so it is vital to equalize your energy states as much as possible, and be as close as possible for a firing solution once the enemy overshoots.
Radars
The M.D.454 IVa is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar located in the centre of the air intake in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range in cockpit view.
AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar | |||
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Maximum Tracking Range |
Minimum Tracking Range |
Azimuth Tracking Angle |
Elevation Tracking Angle |
2,750 m | 300 m | ±9° | ±9° |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons are fast firing
- Able to execute very high G and angle-of-attack maneuvers
- Excellent roll rate
- Good flaps
- Superb ground attack capabilities
Cons:
- Very bad energy retention and sustained turn
- Relatively slow compared to peers
- Compresses at high speeds
- Slow muzzle velocity for the 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons
History
The Mystere IVA was used extensively by Israel throughout the late 50s, notably during the Suez Crisis of 1956. During combat missions there, the aircraft utilized superior performance to claim multiple MiG fighters, as well as a few De Havilland Vampires.
Media
- Skins
See also
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Dassault Aviation | |
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WW2* | |
Fighters | M.B.152C1 · M.B.157 |
Bombers | M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T |
Jet Aircraft | |
M.D 450 | M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan |
Mystère | M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA |
Super Mystère | Super Mystere B2 |
Étendard | Etendard IVM |
Super Étendard | Super Etendard |
Alpha Jet | Alpha Jet E** |
Mirage | |
Mirage III | Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan |
Mirage V | Mirage 5F |
Mirage F1 | Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT |
Mirage 2000 | Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV |
Mirage 4000 | Mirage 4000 |
Export | |
M.D 450 | M.D.450B Ouragan |
Mystere | Mystere IVA |
Super Mystère | Sambad · Sa'ar*** |
Mirage | Shahak · ▄Mirage 5BA · ␗Mirage 2000-5Ei |
*The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947 | |
**Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke | |
***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine | |
See also | SABCA |
France jet aircraft | |
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Fighters | M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2 |
▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN) | |
Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000 | |
Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT | |
Strike aircraft | ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE |
Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E | |
Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV | |
Bombers | S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) |
Belgium | ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM |
Netherlands | ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6 |