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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | Autoloader, 1 round every 2 seconds | + | * Autoloader, 1 round every 2 seconds |
| − | + | * Thermals for gunner | |
| − | Thermals for gunner | + | * Commander sight |
| − | + | * Effective turret armor, can withstand some KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire | |
| − | Commander sight | + | * Proximity fuze rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft |
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| − | Effective turret armor, can withstand some KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire | ||
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| − | Proximity fuze rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| − | Hull isn't very well protected, unless covered you will not withstand much | + | * Hull isn't very well protected, unless covered you will not withstand much |
| − | + | * Crew placement is inadequate, you can get taken out if shot in the middle of turret | |
| − | Crew placement is inadequate, you can get taken out if shot in the middle of turret | + | * Poor mobility when stock |
| − | + | * APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of the round | |
| − | Poor mobility when stock | ||
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| − | APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of the round | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different set of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in Italy or outside it, but eventually during the 80's OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army. Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 'Dardo' would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25mm 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGM's. OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the 'VCC-80' to get where we are now. The general configuration of the VCC-80 would be conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it out is the design, it being very well self proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valueable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't. One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short both countries had disagreements which lead to them going seperate ways when developing the cannon. Out of Italy, many different variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the T60A would be a special version which would mount a special armor kit at the front of the turret, this would surpisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced apfsds used on MBT's of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not exactly meant to go fight tanks 1:1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adeqately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60mm could use proxy,HE and apfsds rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The Vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian army and instead opted for the variant armed with a 25mm, it is unknown what happened to the 60mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'. | During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different set of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in Italy or outside it, but eventually during the 80's OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army. Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 'Dardo' would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25mm 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGM's. OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the 'VCC-80' to get where we are now. The general configuration of the VCC-80 would be conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it out is the design, it being very well self proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valueable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't. One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short both countries had disagreements which lead to them going seperate ways when developing the cannon. Out of Italy, many different variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the T60A would be a special version which would mount a special armor kit at the front of the turret, this would surpisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced apfsds used on MBT's of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not exactly meant to go fight tanks 1:1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adeqately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60mm could use proxy,HE and apfsds rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The Vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian army and instead opted for the variant armed with a 25mm, it is unknown what happened to the 60mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/ | * https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/ | ||
* https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/ | * https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/ | ||
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Revision as of 11:23, 31 December 2021
| This page is about the Italian light tank VCC-80/60. For other versions, see VCC-80 Dardo (Family). |
Contents
Description
The VCC-80 (HITFIST 60/70) is a rank VI Italian light tank with a battle rating of 9.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Winged Lions".
General info
Survivability and armour
Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.
Armour type:
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | ___ mm | ___ mm Top ___ mm Bottom |
___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Turret | ___ - ___ mm Turret front ___ mm Gun mantlet |
___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm | ___ - ___ mm |
| Cupola | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm | ___ mm |
Notes:
Mobility
Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 78 | 36 | 25.2 | 806 | 992 | 31.98 | 39.37 |
| Realistic | 70 | 32 | 460 | 520 | 18.25 | 20.63 | |
Modifications and economy
| Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
Main armament
Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: {{main|Name of the weapon}}. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.
| 60 mm Cannone da 60/70 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 32 | -6°/+40° | ±180° | Two-plane | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00 | 2.00 |
| Realistic | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | ||||||||
Ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| M300 | APFSDS | __ | __ | __ | __ | __ | __ |
| OTO HE | HE | __ | __ | __ | __ | __ | __ |
| OTO HE-VT | HE-VT* | __ | __ | __ | __ | __ | __ |
| Shell details | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile Mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||
| M300 | APFSDS | ___ | _.__ | __ | _._ | ___ | __° | __° | __° |
| OTO HE | HE | ___ | _.__ | __ | _._ | ___ | __° | __° | __° |
| OTO HE-VT | HE-VT* | ___ | _.__ | __ | _._ | ___ | __° | __° | __° |
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 32 | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ |
Machine guns
Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.
| 7.62 mm Beretta MG42/59 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| ___ (___) | ___ | __° | __° | |
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Autoloader, 1 round every 2 seconds
- Thermals for gunner
- Commander sight
- Effective turret armor, can withstand some KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire
- Proximity fuze rounds, good for dealing with enemy aircraft
Cons:
- Hull isn't very well protected, unless covered you will not withstand much
- Crew placement is inadequate, you can get taken out if shot in the middle of turret
- Poor mobility when stock
- APFSDS round does not penetrate much, you will need to know every opponents weak spots to make the best out out of the round
History
During the late stages of the Cold War, OTO Melara, assisted by IVECO, had been designing a set of new multi-role armoured fighting vehicles in the hopes that enough interest would be generated to get the vehicles picked up either by the Italian army or by possible foreign customers. Multiple different types of unique designs, with vastly different set of armaments would arise during that era. These vehicles would however not generate much success in Italy or outside it, but eventually during the 80's OTO Melara would finally come out with a design which would finally be picked up by the Italian army. Despite a troubled development cycle, the VCC-80 'Dardo' would enter service and would continue to serve inside of the Italian army even till this day. Although the base version which is being used is comprised of the OTO TC-25 turret armed with a 25mm 25 mm Oerlikon-Buhrle cannon and TOW ATGM's. OTO Melara would heavily experiment on the previous versions known as the 'VCC-80' to get where we are now. The general configuration of the VCC-80 would be conventional, being similar to other contemporary infantry fighting vehicles. What sets it out is the design, it being very well self proportioned and well executed. The hull as well as the turret of the VCC-80 is welded from plates of aluminium alloys (5083 and 7020 type). These vehicles would be extremely useful in gaining valueable know-how, and allowed OTO Melara to see what worked and what didn't. One of these cases would be the VCC-80/60, a one-off prototype which would utilize a very special weapon system known as the OTO T60A. The OTO T60A was a further development of the joint Italian-Israeli collaboration of the 60mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) weapon system. In short both countries had disagreements which lead to them going seperate ways when developing the cannon. Out of Italy, many different variants would come out, such as the OTO T60M which would be manually loaded and tested unto a Fiat 6616 vehicle, and then the OTO T60A which would be autoloaded and installed on various different vehicles such as the OTO Melara AV-90, B1 Centauro and of course, the VCC-80. The T60A would come in different versions however the one installed on the T60A would be a special version which would mount a special armor kit at the front of the turret, this would surpisingly protect the crew quite a bit from KE munitions and low level auto-cannon fire. However the turret was not invincible, advanced apfsds used on MBT's of the time would easily be able to penetrate the vehicle, same goes for the hull which was even less protected than the turret. It is important to note that this vehicle variant was primarily advertised to be a troop support vehicle, and was not exactly meant to go fight tanks 1:1, instead the idea was to keep it close to infantry where it could adeqately provide support while also being able to be a platform which could repel any enemy helicopter attacks thanks to its special munitions. The 60mm could use proxy,HE and apfsds rounds, which as previously mentioned would be autoloaded, specifically it could fire 1 round every 2 seconds. The Vehicle sadly did not generate interest with the Italian army and instead opted for the variant armed with a 25mm, it is unknown what happened to the 60mm variant, however it is good to note that Poland at one point showed interest and decided to utilize the same weapon system for a vehicle called the 'BWP 2000'.
Media
- Videos
See also
External links
- https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/434464-vcc-dardo/
- https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/393556-variants-dardo-ifv-italian/
| OTO Melara | |
|---|---|
| Light Tanks/IFVs | |
| Centauro | Centauro I 105 · Centauro I 105 R · Centauro I 120 · VRCC |
| Dardo | Dardo · VCC-80/30 · VCC-80/60 |
| Other | C13 T90 · R3 T106 FA |
| MBTs | |
| OF-40 | OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA) |
| Ariete | Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV |
| Other | M47 (105/55) |
| Tank Destroyers | M113A1 (TOW) |
| SPAA | R3 T20 FA-HS · SIDAM 25 · SIDAM 25 (Mistral) · OTOMATIC |
| Patrol Boats | |
| Sparviero-class | Sparviero* |
| See Also | OTO |
| *Built by OTO Melara in La Spezia under the Alinavi S.p.A. consortium | |
| Italy light tanks | |
|---|---|
| Italy | |
| L6/40 | L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.) |
| M11/39 | M11/39 |
| Autoblindo | AB 41 · AB 43 |
| Fiat 6614/6616 | FIAT 6614 · AUBL/74 · AUBL/74 HVG |
| R3 Capraia | R3 T106 FA |
| Centauro | Centauro I 105 · Centauro I 105 R · Centauro I 120 · Centauro RGO · VRCC |
| Freccia | VBC (PT2) · Freccia |
| Dardo | Dardo · VCC-80/60 · VCC-80/30 |
| Other | C13 T90 |
| USA | ▄M3A3 · ▄M24 · ▄M18 |
| Hungary | |
| WWII | Csaba · Toldi IIA |
| Post | ◔BTR-80A · KF41 |
