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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]] along with the initial Italian aviation tree. | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]] along with the initial Italian aviation tree. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
| − | === Flight | + | === Flight performance === |
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=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
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| − | *8 mm Steel - | + | * 8 mm Steel - Armoured plate behind the pilot |
| − | *50 mm Bulletproof glass - | + | * 50 mm Bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen |
| − | *Critical components located at the front of aircraft (pilot, engine, controls) | + | * Critical components located at the front of aircraft (pilot, engine, controls) |
| − | *More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage | + | * More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage |
| − | *Fuel tank in the fuselage behind the pilot | + | * Fuel tank in the fuselage behind the pilot |
== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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| − | The C.205 Serie 1 is perhaps the most underrated rank III Italian fighter, most likely due to the underpowered armament which consists of 2x 12.7 mm and 2x 7.62 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns. This can be a serious problem since this fighter is BnZ fighter, meaning even a successful pass will badly cripple the target instead destroying it. Therefore, stick with teammates in order to support them. The C.205 Serie 1 works well when escorting bombers. | + | The C.205 Serie 1 is perhaps the most underrated rank III Italian fighter, most likely due to the underpowered armament which consists of 2x 12.7 mm and 2x 7.62 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns. This can be a serious problem since this fighter is BnZ fighter, meaning even a successful pass will badly cripple the target instead destroying it. Therefore, stick with teammates in order to support them. The C.205 Serie 1 works well when escorting bombers. |
| − | This fighter can climb fast for its rank and battle rating, thanks to DB 605-A which was installed in Bf 109 G-2, even in stock. The {{PAGENAME}} could climb up to 5,000 m in to seek enemy planes, but higher than 6,000-7,000 m is recommended for safest altitude. Use this advantage when retaining energy, to outrun enemies or gain altitude if the first pass failed and make up the second pass. Although the engine provides considerable manoeuvrability, one should not do excess dogfighting toward the target, as it will burn up energy faster. Never attempt to make a contact against well-manoeuvrable fighters, like Spitfires and Yaks, especially at low altitude. Call teammates, then gain some altitude until the enemy cannot pursue. Use this chance to make a counter-attack and destroy the enemy. One thing to note, this plane's propeller pitch can be tweaked to the maximum value without blowing the engine, unlike all Bf 109s with same engine when using MEC. | + | This fighter can climb fast for its rank and battle rating, thanks to DB 605-A which was installed in Bf 109 G-2, even in stock. The {{PAGENAME}} could climb up to 5,000 m in to seek enemy planes, but higher than 6,000-7,000 m is recommended for safest altitude. Use this advantage when retaining energy, to outrun enemies or gain altitude if the first pass failed and make up the second pass. Although the engine provides considerable manoeuvrability, one should not do excess dogfighting toward the target, as it will burn up energy faster. Never attempt to make a contact against well-manoeuvrable fighters, like Spitfires and Yaks, especially at low altitude. Call teammates, then gain some altitude until the enemy cannot pursue. Use this chance to make a counter-attack and destroy the enemy. One thing to note, this plane's propeller pitch can be tweaked to the maximum value without blowing the engine, unlike all Bf 109s with same engine when using MEC. |
| − | When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity and ball ammunition limits the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noticed: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept the bomber without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim at the wing or the engine compartment for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence to 250-300 m for better effectiveness. Also, load Air Targets or Universal belts for .50 cal, along Stealth belts for the .30 cal. | + | When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity and ball ammunition limits the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noticed: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept the bomber without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim at the wing or the engine compartment for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence to 250-300 m for better effectiveness. Also, load Air Targets or Universal belts for .50 cal, along Stealth belts for the .30 cal. |
Overall, C.205 Serie 1 is a support BnZ fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by under performed armament among all the fighters, in the hands of a skilled player this fighter became a bane among all the enemy fighters, even bombers. | Overall, C.205 Serie 1 is a support BnZ fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by under performed armament among all the fighters, in the hands of a skilled player this fighter became a bane among all the enemy fighters, even bombers. | ||
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger | ! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger | ||
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| − | | Not controllable | | + | | Not controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable |
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=== Modules === | === Modules === | ||
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! colspan="2" | Flight performance | ! colspan="2" | Flight performance | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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| − | '''Pros:''' | + | '''Pros:''' |
* Arguably fast and nimble against any opponents at its battle rating, thanks to the engine from Bf 109 G-2 | * Arguably fast and nimble against any opponents at its battle rating, thanks to the engine from Bf 109 G-2 | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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The last Italian fighters of the war (the Serie 5, or "third-generation") all used the new German Daimler Benz 605 engine, putting them on a par with the best mid-war aircraft. The M.C. 205 was the only one of the Serie 5's to see much service with the Italian air force. The prototype, based on the M.C. 202, first flew in April, 1942. The added power allowed it to become the first Italian aircraft with cannon armament in the wings. It was considered extremely maneuverable at middle and low altitudes. About 200 were built and delivered starting in October, 1942, seeing combat service in the Mediterranean and Sicily the next year. Another 112 were built after the armistice and delivered to Fascist Italian forces, who used the plane until summer, 1944. Others continued on in Allied use and after the war remained in service as combat fighters until 1947. | The last Italian fighters of the war (the Serie 5, or "third-generation") all used the new German Daimler Benz 605 engine, putting them on a par with the best mid-war aircraft. The M.C. 205 was the only one of the Serie 5's to see much service with the Italian air force. The prototype, based on the M.C. 202, first flew in April, 1942. The added power allowed it to become the first Italian aircraft with cannon armament in the wings. It was considered extremely maneuverable at middle and low altitudes. About 200 were built and delivered starting in October, 1942, seeing combat service in the Mediterranean and Sicily the next year. Another 112 were built after the armistice and delivered to Fascist Italian forces, who used the plane until summer, 1944. Others continued on in Allied use and after the war remained in service as combat fighters until 1947. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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{{Youtube-gallery|DwbexTKZA-A|'''The Shooting Range #49''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 07:02 discusses the C.205.}} | {{Youtube-gallery|DwbexTKZA-A|'''The Shooting Range #49''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 07:02 discusses the C.205.}} | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
* ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;'' | * ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;'' | ||
Revision as of 09:46, 12 September 2020
Contents
| This page is about the Italian fighter C. 205 serie 1. For other uses, see C.205 (Family). |
Description
The C. 205 serie 1 is a rank II Italian fighter
with a battle rating of 3.3 (AB) and 3.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" along with the initial Italian aviation tree.
General info
Flight performance
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 7,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 659 | 641 | 10360 | 19.0 | 19.7 | 16.8 | 16.8 | 250 |
| Upgraded | 710 | 683 | 17.0 | 18.0 | 25.0 | 20.4 | ||
Details
| Features | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear |
| ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 0 | 300 | 600 | 340 | 260 | ~14 | ~5 |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 400 | < 270 | < 550 | > 380 |
| Compressor (RB/SB) | ||
|---|---|---|
| Setting 1 | ||
| Optimal altitude | 100% Engine power | WEP Engine power |
| 5,800 m | 1,232 hp | 1,387 hp |
Survivability and armour
- 8 mm Steel - Armoured plate behind the pilot
- 50 mm Bulletproof glass - Armoured windscreen
- Critical components located at the front of aircraft (pilot, engine, controls)
- More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage
- Fuel tank in the fuselage behind the pilot
Armaments
Offensive armament
The C. 205 serie 1 is armed with:
- 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
- 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
Usage in battles
The C.205 Serie 1 is perhaps the most underrated rank III Italian fighter, most likely due to the underpowered armament which consists of 2x 12.7 mm and 2x 7.62 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns. This can be a serious problem since this fighter is BnZ fighter, meaning even a successful pass will badly cripple the target instead destroying it. Therefore, stick with teammates in order to support them. The C.205 Serie 1 works well when escorting bombers.
This fighter can climb fast for its rank and battle rating, thanks to DB 605-A which was installed in Bf 109 G-2, even in stock. The C. 205 serie 1 could climb up to 5,000 m in to seek enemy planes, but higher than 6,000-7,000 m is recommended for safest altitude. Use this advantage when retaining energy, to outrun enemies or gain altitude if the first pass failed and make up the second pass. Although the engine provides considerable manoeuvrability, one should not do excess dogfighting toward the target, as it will burn up energy faster. Never attempt to make a contact against well-manoeuvrable fighters, like Spitfires and Yaks, especially at low altitude. Call teammates, then gain some altitude until the enemy cannot pursue. Use this chance to make a counter-attack and destroy the enemy. One thing to note, this plane's propeller pitch can be tweaked to the maximum value without blowing the engine, unlike all Bf 109s with same engine when using MEC.
When in stock, the armament leaves much to be desired: low velocity and ball ammunition limits the effectiveness of the weapon. Never attempt to head-on by any means; chances are the opponent's bullets will reach the C.205 before its own. One thing should be noticed: while the C.205 has a powerful engine at its battle rating, never intercept the bomber without teammates, especially when down-tiered. However, these machine guns quite effective against dive-bombers or low-flying bombers. Try to aim at the wing or the engine compartment for a desirable hit. Adjust the machine gun convergence to 250-300 m for better effectiveness. Also, load Air Targets or Universal belts for .50 cal, along Stealth belts for the .30 cal.
Overall, C.205 Serie 1 is a support BnZ fighter with good climb rate, reasonably fast for its battle rating. While being overshadowed by under performed armament among all the fighters, in the hands of a skilled player this fighter became a bane among all the enemy fighters, even bombers.
Manual Engine Control
| MEC elements | ||||||
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| Mixer | Pitch | Radiator | Supercharger | Turbocharger | ||
| Oil | Water | Type | ||||
| Not controllable | Controllable Not auto controlled |
Not controllable Not auto controlled |
Controllable Not auto controlled |
Separate | Not controllable 1 gear |
Not controllable |
Modules
| Tier | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| I | Fuselage repair | Radiator | Offensive 7 mm | |
| II | Compressor | Airframe | New 7 mm MGs | |
| III | Wings repair | Engine | Offensive 12 mm | |
| IV | Engine injection | Cover | New 12 mm MGs | |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Arguably fast and nimble against any opponents at its battle rating, thanks to the engine from Bf 109 G-2
- Tweaking the propeller pitch in MEC will not blown the engine, unlike the Bf series with same engine
- Excellent energy retention and roll rate
- Reasonable climb rate
- Excellent high altitude performance
- Insane straight-line acceleration
Cons:
- Inadequate armament at its tier, shots tend to only cripple your enemies instead destroy it
- Hard to control during low speed and altitude
- Any damage severely degrades aircraft functionality
History
The last Italian fighters of the war (the Serie 5, or "third-generation") all used the new German Daimler Benz 605 engine, putting them on a par with the best mid-war aircraft. The M.C. 205 was the only one of the Serie 5's to see much service with the Italian air force. The prototype, based on the M.C. 202, first flew in April, 1942. The added power allowed it to become the first Italian aircraft with cannon armament in the wings. It was considered extremely maneuverable at middle and low altitudes. About 200 were built and delivered starting in October, 1942, seeing combat service in the Mediterranean and Sicily the next year. Another 112 were built after the armistice and delivered to Fascist Italian forces, who used the plane until summer, 1944. Others continued on in Allied use and after the war remained in service as combat fighters until 1947.
Media
The Shooting Range #49 - Pages of History section at 07:02 discusses the C.205.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
- other literature.
| Macchi Aeronautics (Macchi Aeronautica) | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | C. 200 serie 3 · C. 200 serie 7 |
| C. 202 · C. 202D · C. 202EC | |
| C. 205 serie 1 · C. 205 serie 3 · C. 205N2 | |
| Captured | ▀C. 200 serie 3 · ▀C. 200 serie 7 · ▀C. 202 |
| Italy fighters | |
|---|---|
| Fiat | CR.32 · CR.32 bis · CR.32 quater · CR.42 · Marcolin's C.R.42 CN |
| G.50 serie 2 · G.50 AS serie 7 | |
| G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55 serie 1 · G.55S · G.56 | |
| Reggiane | Re.2000 G.A. · Re.2000 serie 1 |
| Re.2001 serie 1 · Re.2001 gruppo 22 · Re.2001 CB · Re.2001 CN | |
| Re.2002 Early | |
| Re.2005 serie 0 | |
| Macchi | C. 200 serie 3 · C. 200 serie 7 |
| C. 202 · C. 202D · C. 202EC | |
| C. 205 serie 1 · C. 205 serie 3 · C. 205N2 | |
| IMAM | Ro.44 |
| Foreign: | |
| Germany | ▄Bf 109 G-14/AS |
| USA | ▄P-47D-30 |
| Britain | ▄Spitfire Mk Vb/trop |
| Hungary | ◐Bf 109 F-4 · ◐Bf 109 G-2 · ◔Yak-9P |
| Romania | He 112 B-1/U2 · IAR-81C |
