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The Su-2 TSS-1 is an interesting aircraft compared to its brethren. On one hand you now have improved speed and agility (not to Chaika levels though, so don't go dogfighting). On the other hand, however, you now have half the machine-gun firepower when strafing or showering lead upon the enemy aircraft or ground units. On the third hand, though, you still retain the exact same payload as other Su-2 series aircraft, so ground-pounding ordnance isn't affected. Whether or not such a gain and loss of attributes compared to the previous MV-5 model is worth it is up to you.
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Of special mention is the TSS turret, the most obvious change compared to the MB-5 turret. The TSS being a scarff ring mount means that it loses the ability to traverse directly to the starboard and port of the aircraft (Not exactly a loss when you aren't supposed to roleplay the Bolton Paul Defiant), but you now have increased traverse under the elevators which makes for improved overall defensive coverage of the rear ShKAS machine gun. The gunner is now fully exposed from rear shots, however, so an unfortunate spray of even rifle-calibre bullets can end your sole ability to return fire against pursuers, compared to the MB-5 which requires the rear turret to be destroyed before incoming bullets have a chance to reach the gunner without interference.
  
 
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Revision as of 10:30, 25 January 2023

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This page is about the Soviet strike aircraft Su-2 TSS-1. For other variants, see Su-2 (Family).
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Su-2 TSS-1
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Description

The Su-2 TSS-1 is a rank I Soviet strike aircraft with a battle rating of 1.7 (AB/SB) and 2.0 (RB). It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 7 100 m512 km/h
Turn time25 s
Max altitude9 120 m
EngineTumansky M-88
TypeRadial
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight4 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 7,100 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 493 477 9120 25.9 26.6 6.7 6.7 369
Upgraded 533 512 24.2 25.0 11.7 8.9

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
620 350 394 340 340 ~8 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 280 < 240 < 500 > 190

Survivability and armour

Crew2 people
Speed of destruction
Structural620 km/h
Gear350 km/h
  • No armour protection
  • Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 in each wing, 1 in front of the pilot)

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB238 → 321 Sl icon.png
RB308 → 416 Sl icon.png
SB578 → 780 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications5 950 Rp icon.png
4 500 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost410 Ge icon.png
Crew training1 800 Sl icon.png
Experts6 300 Sl icon.png
Aces80 Ge icon.png
Research Aces135 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 40 / 100 % Sl icon.png
106 / 106 / 106 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
450 Rp icon.png
Cost:
340 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
450 Rp icon.png
Cost:
340 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
shkas_belt_pack
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
KD-2
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods weapon.png
shkas_new_gun
Research:
450 Rp icon.png
Cost:
340 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
shkas_turret_belt_pack
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Der-19
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods turret gun.png
shkas_turret_new_gun
Research:
480 Rp icon.png
Cost:
360 Sl icon.png
95 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: ShKAS (7.62 mm)

The Su-2 TSS-1 is armed with:

  • 2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns, wing-mounted (850 rpg = 1,700 total)

Suspended armament

The Su-2 TSS-1 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (200 kg total)
  • 12 x 50 kg FAB-50sv bombs (600 kg total)
  • 4 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (400 kg total)
  • 6 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (600 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)

Defensive armament

Main article: ShKAS (7.62 mm)

The Su-2 TSS-1 is defended by:

  • 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, dorsal turret (1,000 rpg)

Usage in battles

The Su-2 TSS-1 is an interesting aircraft compared to its brethren. On one hand you now have improved speed and agility (not to Chaika levels though, so don't go dogfighting). On the other hand, however, you now have half the machine-gun firepower when strafing or showering lead upon the enemy aircraft or ground units. On the third hand, though, you still retain the exact same payload as other Su-2 series aircraft, so ground-pounding ordnance isn't affected. Whether or not such a gain and loss of attributes compared to the previous MV-5 model is worth it is up to you.

Of special mention is the TSS turret, the most obvious change compared to the MB-5 turret. The TSS being a scarff ring mount means that it loses the ability to traverse directly to the starboard and port of the aircraft (Not exactly a loss when you aren't supposed to roleplay the Bolton Paul Defiant), but you now have increased traverse under the elevators which makes for improved overall defensive coverage of the rear ShKAS machine gun. The gunner is now fully exposed from rear shots, however, so an unfortunate spray of even rifle-calibre bullets can end your sole ability to return fire against pursuers, compared to the MB-5 which requires the rear turret to be destroyed before incoming bullets have a chance to reach the gunner without interference.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Controllable
2 gears
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Agile ground attacker
  • Fast top speed
  • Can serve as emergency fighter if needed

Cons:

  • The speed was gained in exchange of losses in offensive and defensive capabilities (halved offensive weaponry, and armour removed)

History


Archive of the in-game description

OKB Sukhoi BB-1 (Su-2) "Ivanov" Short-Range Bomber with M-88 engine

In December of 1940, the BB-1 was renamed the Su-2, after designer Pavel Osipovich Sukhoi, and began to be constructed with the M-88 engine.

This engine, developed in the Tumansky OKB, was an upgrade of the M-87. The M-88 retained the original design scheme (air-cooled, radial, 14-cylinder) and had a takeoff power capacity of 1,100 hp.

However, unreliable operation caused serious problems. The M-88 was continually suffering from piston burnouts, shaking, and increased oil consumption. Oil splatters leaking from the engine would splash on the cabin's transparent bottom, under the navigator, making it more difficult to aim bombs. In addition, the decision to replace the plexiglass canopy with celluloid was a mistake, as the new material quickly lost its transparency, reducing visibility. Nevertheless, the crew did appreciate the warm, closed cabin.

Some of the Su-2s were equipped with rockets. Instead of bombs under the wings, five unguided PC-82 or PC-132 rockets could be installed in each location.

A new variant of the Su-2 was released in early 1941, featuring the M-88B engine. This modification improved the aircraft's performance. The oil cooler was moved to the midsection and the shape of the hood and suction pipe were changed. The plane's armament was somewhat reduced to facilitate construction. Instead of four ShKAS guns in the winds, two guns were installed, with 850 rounds of ammunition per gun. The bulky MB-5 tail turret was replaced with a TSS-1 turret, with a ShKas 7.62 mm machine gun and 900 rounds of ammunition. However, the turret suffered from a number of problems, including a limited angle of fire and difficulty firing when in an air stream. In the spring of 1941, 250 aircraft were produced with the TSS-1. Afterwards, the MB-5 was used. Bomb and rocket payloads remained unchanged.

The Red Army Air Force began to use the Su-2 in combat during the second half of 1940. By the beginning of World War II on June 22, 1941, 213 Su-2s were in service.


Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Sukhoi Design Bureau (Сухого Опытное конструкторское бюро)
Jet fighters  Su-9 · Su-11
Su-27  Su-27 · Su-27SM
Strike aircraft 
Su-2  BB-1 · Su-2 (M-82) · Su-2 MV-5 · Su-2 TSS-1
Su-6  Su-6 · Su-6 (AM-42) · Su-6 (M-71F)
Su-7  Su-7B · Su-7BKL · Su-7BMK
Su-8  Su-8
Su-17  Su-17M2 · Su-17M4 · Su-22M3
Su-24  Su-24M
Su-25  Su-25 · Su-25BM · Su-25K · Su-25T · Su-25SM3 · Su-39
Su-34  Su-34
Export  ◊Su-22UM3K · ◔Su-22M3 · ◊Su-22M4 · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61
  J-11*
  *CKD and SKD kits assembled by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation

USSR strike aircraft
IL-2  IL-2 (1941) · IL-2 (1942) · IL-2M (1943) · IL-2M type 3 · IL-2M "Avenger" · IL-2-37 · IL-2 M-82
IL-8  IL-8 (1944)
IL-10  IL-10 · IL-10 (1946)
Pe-3  Pe-3 (e) · Pe-3 · Pe-3bis
Su-2  BB-1 · Su-2 MV-5 · Su-2 TSS-1 · Su-2 (M-82)
Su-6  Su-6 · Su-6 (AM-42) · Su-6 (M-71F)
Su-8  Su-8
Tandem MAI  Tandem MAI
TIS MA  TIS MA
Tu-1  Tu-1
Yak-2  Yak-2 KABB