Mystere IVA (Israel)

This page is about the jet fighter Mystere IVA (Israel). For other versions, see Mystere (Family).

Mystere IVA

Meteor F.8

Sambad

Mystere IVA

Meteor F.8

Sambad

Israel

VI Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
9.0	8.7	8.7

Class:

Fighter

Jet fighter

Research:160 000

Purchase:450 000

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Description

The first contact between Israel and the Mystere IVA came from an order for 24 units placed in 1955 and 12 were delivered on April of 1956, while the other 12 planes were sent April 23. Another 36 planes would be flown in Operation 'Shaharit'. Israel operated 61 Mystere IVAs in total. During the Suez Crisis, Israeli Mysteres flew 147 sorties, losing only 1 aircraft and claiming several Egyptian MiG-15s and de Havilland Vampires

Introduced in Update "Winged Lions", the Mystere IVA is a strong aircraft for dogfighting if it has enough energy. It deals excellent damage with its 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons that can destroy aircraft in a few shots. As a dogfighter, it bleeds a lot of energy in manoeuvres at low speeds (less than 700 km/h). Pilots should prioritize staying at high speeds above 850 km/h in order to retain good fighting capabilities and have enough speed to dodge missiles if necessary. The lack of acceleration and cruise speed favours a passive styles over a more aggressive style.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Max speed

at 0 m1 109 km/h

Turn time25 s

Max altitude13 000 m

EngineHispano-Suiza Verdon-350

TypeJet

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight10 t

The Mystere IVA, while having decent top speed, suffers from a very poor cruising speed and acceleration. This means that it will be outran and outmanoeuvred by most aircraft of the same BR. However it has great energy retention at speeds over 850 km/h which means that staying at high energy states is more advantageous. Most loadouts wont affect the flight performance too much, except for the 500 kg bombs and the Mk.2 incendiary bombs.

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	1,073	1,039	13000	26.1	27.2	27.2	27.2	800
Upgraded	1,124	1,109		24.2	25.0	48.1	37.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
✓	✓	✓	✓	X	X

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
1,166	447	620	586	408	~12	~4

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 590	< 610	< 635	N/A

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Basic mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
Hispano-Suiza Verdon-350		1	6,028 kg		250 kg/m2
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)				Max Takeoff Weight
Weight (each)	Type		9m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	33m fuel
950 kg	Centrifugal-flow turbojet		6,615 kg	7,204 kg	7,791 kg	7,986 kg	9,600 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition	100%	WEP	9m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	33m fuel	MTOW
Stationary	3,300 kgf	N/A	0.50	0.46	0.42	0.41	0.34
Optimal	3,300 kgf (0 km/h)	N/A	0.50	0.46	0.42	0.41	0.34

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear447 km/h

The Mystere IVA is a relatively large target, compared to other fighters from the same BR bracket. The fuel tanks occupy most of the aircraft, from the wing tips to the center of the aircraft. This layout makes fires easy to be start, so rounds (mainly incendiary) that won't destroy the airframe, could set it on fire with no problem.

Armour Layout:

• 2 x 16 mm steel plate [lower and upper back] of the pilot
• 16 mm steel plate in the lower front of the pilot
• 40 mm windshield in the front of the cockpit

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB3 265 → 4 437

RB9 404 → 12 780

SB10 712 → 14 557

Total cost of modifications142 400

223 400

Talisman cost2 400

Crew training130 000

Experts450 000

Aces2 200

Research Aces890 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

130 / 380 / 600 %

214 / 214 / 214 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Fuselage repair Research: 4 700 Cost: 7 400 195 New boosters Research: 4 700 Cost: 7 400 195 Airframe Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 450 Compressor Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 450 Wings repair Research: 8 800 Cost: 14 000 360 Engine Research: 8 800 Cost: 14 000 360 Cover Research: 23 000 Cost: 36 000 940 G-suit Research: 23 000 Cost: 36 000 940		aden_belt_pack Research: 4 700 Cost: 7 400 195 250/50 G.P. Research: 4 700 Cost: 7 400 195 Matra Type 61 Research: 4 700 Cost: 7 400 195 Mk2 Research: 4 700 Cost: 7 400 195 500/50 G.P. Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 450 aden_new_gun Research: 8 800 Cost: 14 000 360 Matra Type 116 Research: 8 800 Cost: 14 000 360

Pilots should prioritize the engine and other performance areas to combat the lack of power and only then go for ground ordnance.

Recommended modifications for Air RB in order:

1. Fuselage Repair
2. Compressor
3. Engine
4. Airframe
5. Wings Repair
6. Cover

After that, finish up the rest of the performance area and go for ground ordnance. If used in ground RB, go for the desired ground ordnance, belts first and then follow the modifications path mentioned earlier

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Mystere IVA (Israel) is armed with:

• 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)

The twin DEFA cannons are very effective against all sorts of targets, a few well placed shots of Air-Target belts would destroy an aircraft with no problem. While the ground target belts can deal with the roof armour of most medium and light targets that it would encounter.

Suspended armament

The Mystere IVA has a good amount of ground ordnance. The 4 x 500 kg bombs can destroy a full base and kill any ground target with a decent drop. The incendiary bombs work better against SPAA and also against full bases. The rockets offer the opportunity to destroy several ground targets of any kind if used with careful aim.

The Mystere IVA (Israel) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3	4	5
250/50 kg G.P. bombs	1	1		1	1
400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs	1	1		1	1
500/50 kg G.P. bombs	1	1		1	1
Mk.2 incendiary bombs	1	1		1	1
SNEB type 23 rockets	19	19	55	19	19
T10 151 rockets	6	6		6	6
Maximum permissible loadout weight: 1,860 kg Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 850 kg

Default weapon presets
Without load 24 x T10 151 rockets 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets 4 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total) 4 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (1,600 kg total) 4 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,000 kg total) 4 x Mk.2 incendiary bombs

Usage in battles

Arcade Battles

In AB, the Mystere IVA is very capable as a support fighter. The extra speed, climb rate, and acceleration compared to RB makes it so that it is capable of outrunning many of the planes that it face and also makes it more capable to participate in sustained fights where the energy would normally be a problem in RB and Sim. The gun radar helps with the aim at distances over 2 km, principally in head-ons where it helps giving a lead indicator to distances up to 3 km but is more inaccurate than the normal lead indicator present on arcade matches.

Realistic Battles

The Mystere IVA mostly relies on its teammates. The lack of engine power and poor energy retention makes it so that this plane is used better in a support role, picking enemies from the side of the map trying to flee to safety or killing enemies that are slow and vulnerable. It is outclassed by common threats like early MiG-21 variants, the early F-104s, the MiG-17/19 and the Lim-5P. Pilots should do their best job to keep their speed above 850 km/h and do very slight turns in order to not bleed that energy. Having an altitude advantage is also very rewarding, except in downtiers where interceptors such as the MiG-21s and F-104s can easily shoot down the Mystere IVA. In dogfights it can outmanoeuvre most jets as long as it has good energy, so sustained dogfights are not recommended.

Simulator Battles

Like many other planes from the same BR bracket, the Mystere IVA suffers from a lack of radar or missiles. This means that interceptors can easily catch you unnoticed and kill you with a missile. In SB, the Mystere IVA works better with a wingman to provide a couple of extra eyes to look in the sky. This can also be achieved in escort missions, providing valuable protection to bombers or attack aircraft like the A-4 Skyhawk. Flying low is also recommended to avoid radar detection and to use terrain as a cover against faster planes in evasive manoeuvres.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Good energy retention at high speeds (850 km/h+)
• Excellent damage in the cannons
• Good amount of ammo for the cannons
• Excellent manoeuvrability at high speeds
• Good airbrakes and roll rate for making enemies overshoot

Cons:

• Poor manoeuvrability at low speeds
• Inadequate energy retention at speeds below 700 km/h
• Low muzzle velocity for the cannons
• Bad acceleration and cruise speed without upgrades
• Poor vertical performance and manoeuvrability

History

Israeli Mystere IVA in display at the Hatzerim Israel Air Force museum

The Mystere IVA is a single seat fighter-bomber developed by France in the 1950s. The IAF operated a total of 61 units that were used in large scale combat during the Suez Crisis and the 1967 Six-Day War. The Mystere IVA was operated by the 101, 109, and 116 squadrons. While the Mystere IVA was intended to be replaced by the more modern A-4 Skyhawk, squadrons 109 and 116 still operated Mystere fighters at the start of the Six-Day War.

During the Suez Crisis, the Mysteres flew 147 total sorties and claimed several Egyptian aircraft. In the Sinai campaign, the 101 Squadron were used in recon and patrol missions to cover Israeli air operations. They were particularly useful during airborne operations, preventing the takeoff of enemy aircraft that may threaten the planes carrying paratroopers. The total score of the squadrons operating in the Sinai campaign was 7 enemy planes shot down, between MiG-15s, de Havilland Vampires and a single MiG-17. Only one Mystere IV would be lost, being shot down by ground-based AA fire.

These fighters played a significant role as ground attackers in the Six-Day War of 1967 and even claimed some air-to-air kills. Due to their ground attack role, 8 Mysteres would be lost due to AA fire. They were also used in raids deep in Egyptian territory, hindering enemy logistics and supporting ground units in combat. After the Six-Day War, the Mystere would be retired from frontline service and remained only as an advanced trainer aircraft for future pilots. The life of the Mystere in Israeli service ended in 1971 when they were fully retired from service.

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the Mystere IVA (Israel) from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

Underpowered! Mystere IVA - Israel - Review! - Jengar

See also

• Mystere (Family)

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

• [Wikipedia] - Dassault MD.454 Mystère IV
• [IAF Web] - Dassault Mystere in IAF

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