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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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| − | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a | + | The Barougan ("battle" in Arabic), was a very minor off-shoot of the M.D.450B Ouragan. The main difference was the new gear design that would allow the Barougan to take off from undeveloped runways. The nose gear stayed the same; however, the main gear in the center of the aircraft was very different. The Barougan had four wheels in the center to help absorb the load from grass runways and it proved to be a good design. A tail parachute was also added to decrease the landing distance and make it more viable. Unfortunately for the Barougan, the program was cut short due to budget constraints and was reconverted back to its original configuration. |
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| + | Introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a decent early jet fighter. It has four chin-mounted 20 mm cannons and access to bombs as well as SNEB type 23 rockets. Although it has four cannons, the ammo belts are less than desirable and greatly hinder the effectiveness of the guns. The Rolls-Royce engine is decent; although if players choose higher fuel settings, the Barougan will greatly struggle with accelerating quickly and overall energy retention will diminish. Overall, the Barougan is a decent aircraft for players progressing through the French tech tree and serves as a good indicator of upcoming native French jets. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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| + | The Barougan flies very similarly to the Ouragan, that means that it is a very capable dogfighter when it sits at low energy states. Its wings allow it to retain energy decently at speeds below 600 km/h; while the top speed and acceleration is not comparable to jets like the Su-11 and Meteor NF.13, its good handling compensates the that lack of performance at higher speeds. | ||
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate in the nose. | * 13.5 mm Steel plate in the nose. | ||
* 13.5 mm Steel plates behind pilot. | * 13.5 mm Steel plates behind pilot. | ||
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| + | The Barougan is a relatively survivable aircraft compared to many early jet fighters. It only has a single engine, this makes it fairly small target compared to many other jets like the MiG-9 and F3D-1. However, it won't survive a direct hit from high calibre cannons, and its vertical control surfaces are especially vulnerable in fights by going over the entire top of the aircraft. All the fuel tanks are self-sealing, and it also has a reinforced landing gear compared to the Ouragan. | ||
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
{{Specs-Economy}} | {{Specs-Economy}} | ||
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| + | The most important upgrades for the Barougan are in the flight performance area, since the standard ammo belts are decent, it's important going for Compressor, Fuselage, Engine and G Suit upgrades, if you plan to use the Barougan for ground attacks, research the Matra SNEB rockets and the 1000lb bombs. | ||
== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
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* 4 x 20 mm M50 cannons, chin-mounted (125 rpg = 500 total) | * 4 x 20 mm M50 cannons, chin-mounted (125 rpg = 500 total) | ||
| − | The four | + | The four 20mm cannons are clustered on the underside of the fuselage, directly below the pilot. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty. An advantage of this chin mounted arrangement is that gun convergence does not play a factor unlike wing-mounted guns. |
=== Suspended armament === | === Suspended armament === | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
| − | + | This aircraft is usually seen as a bad aircraft, however it has alot of potential. | |
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| + | in Air Battles, it can be played in 2 main playstyles. It can either be used as a boom and zoom aircraft, where you should be 1-2km above a low energy target, diving on them, shooting then if you missed your opportunity of taking them down, climb back up and try again, or the energy fighting role. | ||
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| + | Energy fighting is managing your energy correctly while being agressive with an enemy. You are trying to stay alive, while pushing the enemy into making a mistake, For example you could take them into an energy trap spiral, making them overshoot, making them stall. Energy fighting is quite harder to explain and to successfully play as a playstyle, however it feels most rewarding. | ||
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| + | in Ground Battles, the Barougan is okay. you have 38x SNEB rockets, along with 8x T10 rockets, which if used correctly can land you 2-3 ground kills. Due to there being no markers on planes in GRB, you can use this plane in a reverse Boom and Zoom role after you killed ground targets. It implies staying low to the ground, looking up above you for unsuspecting planes. You should be nearly invisible against the ground since there is no marker on you for enemy players to see. | ||
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| + | Overall an average jet compared to its competitors, does not shine in any particular area, but it can do alot of things. | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | * Has stronger landing gear | + | * Has stronger landing gear than the Ouragan |
| − | * Has a drogue chute for stopping quicker. | + | * Has a drogue chute for stopping quicker |
| + | * Can carry a decent amount of rockets for its BR. | ||
| + | * Good energy retention below 600 km/h | ||
| + | * Is on the faster side of early jets, topping at around 940 km/h, putting it close to the F84 | ||
| + | * Good acceleration at higher speeds (above 800 km/h) | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
| − | * Worse than average roll rate. | + | * Worse than average roll rate |
| + | * Compresses heavily at higher speeds | ||
| + | * 20 mm tends to be unreliable, similar to 20mm Hispano MK.V | ||
| + | * Engine can feel underwhelming at times | ||
| + | * Bad performance in vertical manoeuvres | ||
| + | * Relatively low ammo pool | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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| + | The prevalence of makeshift airfields created a need for jet aircraft that could comfortably take off and land on them. The Ouragan, which was relegated to properly developed runways, was selected by Dassault to pursue this need. Serial number 140 was selected to experiment with the use of a new gear that would be able to meet this requirement. Instead of the normal three-wheel landing gear, the plane was fitted with a normal nose gear and four "low pressure" wheels in the center. A tail parachute was also fitted to help reduce the landing distance. The Barougan as it would be called (which stands for battle in Arabic), was able to take off from grass airfields and was a decent competitor to SNCASE's Barouder. Unfortunately, budget cuts ended the program and the Barougan was reconverted back to its normal Ouragan configuration. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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| + | ;Skins | ||
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| + | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=md_450b_barougan Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/385701-md450b-ouragan/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance] | * [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/385701-md450b-ouragan/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance] | ||
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{{France jet aircraft}} | {{France jet aircraft}} | ||
Latest revision as of 04:52, 8 November 2023
| This page is about the French jet fighter M.D.450B Barougan. For the "Ouragan", see M.D.450B Ouragan. |
Contents
Description
The Barougan ("battle" in Arabic), was a very minor off-shoot of the M.D.450B Ouragan. The main difference was the new gear design that would allow the Barougan to take off from undeveloped runways. The nose gear stayed the same; however, the main gear in the center of the aircraft was very different. The Barougan had four wheels in the center to help absorb the load from grass runways and it proved to be a good design. A tail parachute was also added to decrease the landing distance and make it more viable. Unfortunately for the Barougan, the program was cut short due to budget constraints and was reconverted back to its original configuration.
Introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France", the M.D.450B Barougan is a decent early jet fighter. It has four chin-mounted 20 mm cannons and access to bombs as well as SNEB type 23 rockets. Although it has four cannons, the ammo belts are less than desirable and greatly hinder the effectiveness of the guns. The Rolls-Royce engine is decent; although if players choose higher fuel settings, the Barougan will greatly struggle with accelerating quickly and overall energy retention will diminish. Overall, the Barougan is a decent aircraft for players progressing through the French tech tree and serves as a good indicator of upcoming native French jets.
General info
Flight performance
The Barougan flies very similarly to the Ouragan, that means that it is a very capable dogfighter when it sits at low energy states. Its wings allow it to retain energy decently at speeds below 600 km/h; while the top speed and acceleration is not comparable to jets like the Su-11 and Meteor NF.13, its good handling compensates the that lack of performance at higher speeds.
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 898 | 871 | 12000 | 25.4 | 25.9 | 23.1 | 21.9 | 700 |
| Upgraded | 963 | 942 | 23.0 | 24.0 | 33.5 | 28.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | ✓ |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 1030 | 450 | 627 | 598 | 450 | ~10 | ~5 |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 600 | < 700 | < 680 | N/A |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Empty mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
| Rolls-Royce Nene-Mk.104 | 1 | 4,800 kg | 252 kg/m2 | ||||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
| Weight (each) | Type | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 33m fuel | ||
| 930 kg | Centrifugal-flow turbojet | 5,159 kg | 5,518 kg | 5,876 kg | 5,984 kg | 8,420 kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | ||||||
| Condition | 100% | WEP | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 33m fuel | MTOW |
| Stationary | 2,079 kgf | N/A | 0.40 | 0.38 | 0.35 | 0.35 | 0.25 |
| Optimal | 2,079 kgf (0 km/h) |
N/A | 0.40 | 0.38 | 0.35 | 0.35 | 0.25 |
Survivability and armour
- 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
- 13.5 mm Steel plate in the nose.
- 13.5 mm Steel plates behind pilot.
The Barougan is a relatively survivable aircraft compared to many early jet fighters. It only has a single engine, this makes it fairly small target compared to many other jets like the MiG-9 and F3D-1. However, it won't survive a direct hit from high calibre cannons, and its vertical control surfaces are especially vulnerable in fights by going over the entire top of the aircraft. All the fuel tanks are self-sealing, and it also has a reinforced landing gear compared to the Ouragan.
Modifications and economy
| Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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The most important upgrades for the Barougan are in the flight performance area, since the standard ammo belts are decent, it's important going for Compressor, Fuselage, Engine and G Suit upgrades, if you plan to use the Barougan for ground attacks, research the Matra SNEB rockets and the 1000lb bombs.
Armaments
Offensive armament
The M.D.450B Barougan is armed with:
- 4 x 20 mm M50 cannons, chin-mounted (125 rpg = 500 total)
The four 20mm cannons are clustered on the underside of the fuselage, directly below the pilot. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty. An advantage of this chin mounted arrangement is that gun convergence does not play a factor unlike wing-mounted guns.
Suspended armament
The M.D.450B Barougan can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (1,000 lb total)
- 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (2,000 lb total)
- 16 x T10 140 rockets
- 16 x T10 151 rockets
- 38 x SNEB type 23 rockets
Usage in battles
This aircraft is usually seen as a bad aircraft, however it has alot of potential.
in Air Battles, it can be played in 2 main playstyles. It can either be used as a boom and zoom aircraft, where you should be 1-2km above a low energy target, diving on them, shooting then if you missed your opportunity of taking them down, climb back up and try again, or the energy fighting role.
Energy fighting is managing your energy correctly while being agressive with an enemy. You are trying to stay alive, while pushing the enemy into making a mistake, For example you could take them into an energy trap spiral, making them overshoot, making them stall. Energy fighting is quite harder to explain and to successfully play as a playstyle, however it feels most rewarding.
in Ground Battles, the Barougan is okay. you have 38x SNEB rockets, along with 8x T10 rockets, which if used correctly can land you 2-3 ground kills. Due to there being no markers on planes in GRB, you can use this plane in a reverse Boom and Zoom role after you killed ground targets. It implies staying low to the ground, looking up above you for unsuspecting planes. You should be nearly invisible against the ground since there is no marker on you for enemy players to see.
Overall an average jet compared to its competitors, does not shine in any particular area, but it can do alot of things.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Has stronger landing gear than the Ouragan
- Has a drogue chute for stopping quicker
- Can carry a decent amount of rockets for its BR.
- Good energy retention below 600 km/h
- Is on the faster side of early jets, topping at around 940 km/h, putting it close to the F84
- Good acceleration at higher speeds (above 800 km/h)
Cons:
- Worse than average roll rate
- Compresses heavily at higher speeds
- 20 mm tends to be unreliable, similar to 20mm Hispano MK.V
- Engine can feel underwhelming at times
- Bad performance in vertical manoeuvres
- Relatively low ammo pool
History
The prevalence of makeshift airfields created a need for jet aircraft that could comfortably take off and land on them. The Ouragan, which was relegated to properly developed runways, was selected by Dassault to pursue this need. Serial number 140 was selected to experiment with the use of a new gear that would be able to meet this requirement. Instead of the normal three-wheel landing gear, the plane was fitted with a normal nose gear and four "low pressure" wheels in the center. A tail parachute was also fitted to help reduce the landing distance. The Barougan as it would be called (which stands for battle in Arabic), was able to take off from grass airfields and was a decent competitor to SNCASE's Barouder. Unfortunately, budget cuts ended the program and the Barougan was reconverted back to its normal Ouragan configuration.
Media
- Skins
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
| Dassault Aviation | |
|---|---|
| WW2* | |
| Fighters | M.B.152C1 · M.B.157 |
| Bombers | M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T |
| Jet Aircraft | |
| M.D 450 | M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan |
| Mystère | M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA |
| Super Mystère | Super Mystere B2 |
| Étendard | Etendard IVM |
| Super Étendard | Super Etendard |
| Alpha Jet | Alpha Jet E** |
| Mirage | |
| Mirage III | Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan |
| Mirage V | Mirage 5F |
| Mirage F1 | Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT |
| Mirage 2000 | Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV |
| Mirage 4000 | Mirage 4000 |
| Export | |
| M.D 450 | M.D.450B Ouragan |
| Mystere | Mystere IVA |
| Super Mystère | Sambad · Sa'ar*** |
| Mirage | Shahak · ▄Mirage 5BA · ␗Mirage 2000-5Ei |
| *The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947 | |
| **Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke | |
| ***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine | |
| See also | SABCA |
| France jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2 |
| ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN) | |
| Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000 | |
| Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT | |
| Strike aircraft | ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE |
| Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E | |
| Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV | |
| Bombers | S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) |
| Belgium | ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM |
| Netherlands | ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6 |
