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The Mystere IVA is a single seat fighter-bomber developed by France in the 1950s. The IAF operated a total of 61 units that were used in large scale combat during the Suez Crisis and the 1967 Six Day War. The Mystere IVA was operated by the 101, 109 and 116 squadron. While the Mystere IVA was intended to be replaced by the more modern A-4 Skyhawk squadrons 109 and 116 still operated Mystere fighters when the Six Days War started.
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[[File:Mystere IVA.jpg|thumb|403x403px|Israeli Mystere IVA in display at the Hatzerim Israel Air Force museum]]
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The Mystere IVA is a single seat fighter-bomber developed by France in the 1950s. The IAF operated a total of 61 units that were used in large scale combat during the Suez Crisis and the 1967 Six-Day War. The Mystere IVA was operated by the 101, 109, and 116 squadrons. While the Mystere IVA was intended to be replaced by the more modern A-4 Skyhawk, squadrons 109 and 116 still operated Mystere fighters at the start of the Six-Day War.
  
During the Suez Crisis, the Mysteres flew 147 total sorties and claimed several Egyptian aircrafts. In the Sinai campaign the 101 Squadron were used in recon and patrol missions to cover Israeli air operations. They were particularly useful during airborne operations, preventing the takeoff of enemy aircrafts that may threat the planes carrying the paratroopers. The total kill score of the squadron operating in the Sinai campaign was 7 enemy planes shot down, between Mig-15s, De Havilland Vampires and a single Mig-17. Only one Mystere IV will be lost and it was due to ground based AA fire.  
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During the Suez Crisis, the Mysteres flew 147 total sorties and claimed several Egyptian aircraft. In the Sinai campaign, the 101 Squadron were used in recon and patrol missions to cover Israeli air operations. They were particularly useful during airborne operations, preventing the takeoff of enemy aircraft that may threaten the planes carrying paratroopers. The total score of the squadrons operating in the Sinai campaign was 7 enemy planes shot down, between MiG-15s, de Havilland Vampires and a single MiG-17. Only one Mystere IV would be lost, being shot down by ground-based AA fire.
  
These fighters played a significant role as ground attacker in the Six Day War of 1967 and even claimed some air to air kills. Due to their ground attack role, 8 Mysteres will be lost due to AA fire. They were used to in raids deep in Egyptian territory, hindering enemy logistics and supporting ground units in combat. After the Six Days War the Mystere will be retired from frontline service and remained only as an advanced trainer aircraft for future pilots. The life of the Mystere in Israeli service will end in 1971 when they were fully retired from service.
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These fighters played a significant role as ground attackers in the Six-Day War of 1967 and even claimed some air-to-air kills. Due to their ground attack role, 8 Mysteres would be lost due to AA fire. They were also used in raids deep in Egyptian territory, hindering enemy logistics and supporting ground units in combat. After the Six-Day War, the Mystere would be retired from frontline service and remained only as an advanced trainer aircraft for future pilots. The life of the Mystere in Israeli service ended in 1971 when they were fully retired from service.
  
 
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Description

The first contact between Israel and the Mystere IVA came from an order for 24 units placed in 1955 and 12 were delivered on April of 1956, while the other 12 planes were sent April 23. Another 36 planes would be flown in Operation 'Shaharit'. Israel operated 61 Mystere IVAs in total. During the Suez Crisis, Israeli Mysteres flew 147 sorties, losing only 1 aircraft and claiming several Egyptian MiG-15s and de Havilland Vampires

Introduced in Update "Winged Lions", the Mystere IVA is a strong aircraft for dogfighting if it has enough energy. It deals excellent damage with its 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons that can destroy aircraft in a few shots. As a dogfighter, it bleeds a lot of energy in manoeuvres at low speeds (less than 700 km/h). Pilots should prioritize staying at high speeds above 850 km/h in order to retain good fighting capabilities and have enough speed to dodge missiles if necessary. The lack of acceleration and cruise speed favours a passive styles over a more aggressive style.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 0 m1 109 km/h
Turn time25 s
Max altitude13 000 m
EngineHispano-Suiza Verdon-350
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight10 t

The Mystere IVA, while having decent top speed, suffers from a very poor cruising speed and acceleration. This means that it will be outran and outmanoeuvred by most aircraft of the same BR. However it has great energy retention at speeds over 850 km/h which means that staying at high energy states is more advantageous. Most loadouts wont affect the flight performance too much, except for the 500 kg bombs and the Mk.2 incendiary bombs.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,073 1,039 13000 26.1 27.2 27.2 27.2 800
Upgraded 1,124 1,109 24.2 25.0 48.1 37.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,166 447 620 586 408 ~12 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 590 < 610 < 635 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Hispano-Suiza Verdon-350 1 6,028 kg 250 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel
950 kg Centrifugal-flow turbojet 6,615 kg 7,204 kg 7,791 kg 7,986 kg 9,600 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel MTOW
Stationary 3,300 kgf N/A 0.50 0.46 0.42 0.41 0.34
Optimal 3,300 kgf
(0 km/h)
N/A 0.50 0.46 0.42 0.41 0.34

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear447 km/h

The Mystere IVA is a relatively large target, compared to other fighters from the same BR bracket. The fuel tanks occupy most of the aircraft, from the wing tips to the center of the aircraft. This layout makes fires easy to be start, so rounds (mainly incendiary) that won't destroy the airframe, could set it on fire with no problem.

Armour Layout:

  • 2 x 16 mm steel plate [lower and upper back] of the pilot
  • 16 mm steel plate in the lower front of the pilot
  • 40 mm windshield in the front of the cockpit

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 265 → 4 437 Sl icon.png
RB9 404 → 12 780 Sl icon.png
SB10 712 → 14 557 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications142 400 Rp icon.png
223 400 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training130 000 Sl icon.png
Experts450 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces890 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
214 / 214 / 214 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
4 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 400 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
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New boosters
Research:
4 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 400 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
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Compressor
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
23 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
940 Ge icon.png
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G-suit
Research:
23 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
940 Ge icon.png
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Research:
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Cost:
7 400 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
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250/50 G.P.
Research:
4 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 400 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
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Mods pilon rocket.png
Matra Type 61
Research:
4 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 400 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
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Mods napalm fire bomb.png
Mk2
Research:
4 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 400 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
500/50 G.P.
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
450 Ge icon.png
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aden_new_gun
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
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Matra Type 116
Research:
8 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png

Pilots should prioritize the engine and other performance areas to combat the lack of power and only then go for ground ordnance.

Recommended modifications for Air RB in order:

  1. Fuselage Repair
  2. Compressor
  3. Engine
  4. Airframe
  5. Wings Repair
  6. Cover

After that, finish up the rest of the performance area and go for ground ordnance. If used in ground RB, go for the desired ground ordnance, belts first and then follow the modifications path mentioned earlier

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 552 (30 mm)

The Mystere IVA (Israel) is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, chin-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)

The twin DEFA cannons are very effective against all sorts of targets, a few well placed shots of Air-Target belts would destroy an aircraft with no problem. While the ground target belts can deal with the roof armour of most medium and light targets that it would encounter.

Suspended armament

The Mystere IVA has a good amount of ground ordnance. The 4 x 500 kg bombs can destroy a full base and kill any ground target with a decent drop. The incendiary bombs work better against SPAA and also against full bases. The rockets offer the opportunity to destroy several ground targets of any kind if used with careful aim.

The Mystere IVA (Israel) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3 4 5
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250/50 kg G.P. bombs 1 1 1 1
400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs 1 1 1 1
500/50 kg G.P. bombs 1 1 1 1
Mk.2 incendiary bombs 1 1 1 1
SNEB type 23 rockets 19 19 55 19 19
T10 151 rockets 6 6 6 6
Maximum permissible loadout weight: 1,860 kg
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 850 kg
Default weapon presets
  • Without load
  • 24 x T10 151 rockets
  • 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 55 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 4 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
  • 4 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (1,600 kg total)
  • 4 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,000 kg total)
  • 4 x Mk.2 incendiary bombs

Usage in battles

Arcade Battles

In AB, the Mystere IVA is very capable as a support fighter. The extra speed, climb rate, and acceleration compared to RB makes it so that it is capable of outrunning many of the planes that it face and also makes it more capable to participate in sustained fights where the energy would normally be a problem in RB and Sim. The gun radar helps with the aim at distances over 2 km, principally in head-ons where it helps giving a lead indicator to distances up to 3 km but is more inaccurate than the normal lead indicator present on arcade matches.

Realistic Battles

The Mystere IVA mostly relies on its teammates. The lack of engine power and poor energy retention makes it so that this plane is used better in a support role, picking enemies from the side of the map trying to flee to safety or killing enemies that are slow and vulnerable. It is outclassed by common threats like early MiG-21 variants, the early F-104s, the MiG-17/19 and the Lim-5P. Pilots should do their best job to keep their speed above 850 km/h and do very slight turns in order to not bleed that energy. Having an altitude advantage is also very rewarding, except in downtiers where interceptors such as the MiG-21s and F-104s can easily shoot down the Mystere IVA. In dogfights it can outmanoeuvre most jets as long as it has good energy, so sustained dogfights are not recommended.

Simulator Battles

Like many other planes from the same BR bracket, the Mystere IVA suffers from a lack of radar or missiles. This means that interceptors can easily catch you unnoticed and kill you with a missile. In SB, the Mystere IVA works better with a wingman to provide a couple of extra eyes to look in the sky. This can also be achieved in escort missions, providing valuable protection to bombers or attack aircraft like the A-4 Skyhawk. Flying low is also recommended to avoid radar detection and to use terrain as a cover against faster planes in evasive manoeuvres.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good energy retention at high speeds (850 km/h+)
  • Excellent damage in the cannons
  • Good amount of ammo for the cannons
  • Excellent manoeuvrability at high speeds
  • Good airbrakes and roll rate for making enemies overshoot

Cons:

  • Poor manoeuvrability at low speeds
  • Inadequate energy retention at speeds below 700 km/h
  • Low muzzle velocity for the cannons
  • Bad acceleration and cruise speed without upgrades
  • Poor vertical performance and manoeuvrability

History

Israeli Mystere IVA in display at the Hatzerim Israel Air Force museum

The Mystere IVA is a single seat fighter-bomber developed by France in the 1950s. The IAF operated a total of 61 units that were used in large scale combat during the Suez Crisis and the 1967 Six-Day War. The Mystere IVA was operated by the 101, 109, and 116 squadrons. While the Mystere IVA was intended to be replaced by the more modern A-4 Skyhawk, squadrons 109 and 116 still operated Mystere fighters at the start of the Six-Day War.

During the Suez Crisis, the Mysteres flew 147 total sorties and claimed several Egyptian aircraft. In the Sinai campaign, the 101 Squadron were used in recon and patrol missions to cover Israeli air operations. They were particularly useful during airborne operations, preventing the takeoff of enemy aircraft that may threaten the planes carrying paratroopers. The total score of the squadrons operating in the Sinai campaign was 7 enemy planes shot down, between MiG-15s, de Havilland Vampires and a single MiG-17. Only one Mystere IV would be lost, being shot down by ground-based AA fire.

These fighters played a significant role as ground attackers in the Six-Day War of 1967 and even claimed some air-to-air kills. Due to their ground attack role, 8 Mysteres would be lost due to AA fire. They were also used in raids deep in Egyptian territory, hindering enemy logistics and supporting ground units in combat. After the Six-Day War, the Mystere would be retired from frontline service and remained only as an advanced trainer aircraft for future pilots. The life of the Mystere in Israeli service ended in 1971 when they were fully retired from service.

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Mystère  M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA
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Export 
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Mystere  Mystere IVA
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  *The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947
  **Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke
  ***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine
See also  SABCA

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Super Mystere  Sambad · Sa'ar
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