C.205 serie 3

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RANK 5 SWEDEN
SAAB J-29D PACK
C.205 serie 3
mc-205_serie3.png
Cockpit
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
3.7/4.0/4.3BR
Class
1 personCrew
3.5 tTake-off weight
3.54 kg/sBurst mass
Flight characteristics
10 360 mCeiling
Daimler-Benz DB-605AEngine
InlineType
waterCooling system
Speed of destruction
845 km/hStructural
300 km/hGear
Offensive armament
2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannonWeapon 1
500 roundsAmmunition
750 shots/minFire rate
2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gunWeapon 2
800 roundsAmmunition
701 shots/minFire rate
Economy
26 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
100 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png4 240 / 5 393/6 530 / 8 306/1 700 / 2 162Repair
29 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
100 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
500 Ge icon.pngAces
142 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
250 % Sl icon.png280 % Sl icon.png70 % Sl icon.png
This page is about the Italian fighter C.205 serie 3. For other versions, see C.205 serie 1 and C.205N2.

Description

GarageImage C.205 serie 3.jpg


The C.205 serie 3 is a rank III Italian fighter with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB), 4.0 (RB), and 3.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" along with the initial Italian aviation tree.

The C.205 serie 3 is a refinement of the C.205 serie 1, which was a development of the C.202. The serie 3 addresses the main issue of the serie 1, which is its highly underwhelming firepower. The wings now each hold a 20 mm MG151/20 cannon which accompany what used to be the primary armament, 2 x 12.7 mm machine guns mounted above the engine cowling. The extra weight on the Daimler-Benz 605 engine marginally reduces flight performance.

General info

Flight performance

The aircraft has a very good roll rate and generally good acceleration both in level flight and when diving. Overall handling is good and energy retention in level flight and in the vertical is very good. Control lock up starts with the rudder past 500 - 550 km/h with the test of the control surfaces steadily locking up past 600 - 650 km/h. Players should make sure to leave enough altitude to pull out of a steep dive. The control lockup prevents the wings from tearing due to excessive G-force. The engine maintains a lot of power even past 5,000 metres and takes a while to overheat.

For full real control pilots, the left wing is slightly longer than the right to counter the torque of the engine. This can cause the aircraft to roll to the side even when making a slight change in pitch.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 648 629 10 360 20.1 20.8 15.6 15.6 250
Upgraded 699 672 18.0 19.0 23.3 19.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
845 300 600 340 260 ~14 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 400 < 270 < 550 > 380
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,800 m 1,250 hp 1,407 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 50 mm Bulletproof glass - Windscreen
  • 8 mm Steel - Behind pilot
  • Decent build quality, can take some punishment

Armaments

Offensive armament

The C.205 serie 3 is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

Usage in battles

C.205 Serie 3 is not just a mere upgrade from C.205 serie 1, now it features a pair of 20 mm MG 151 cannons which mean that executing Boom-and-Zoom and bomber intercepting is now very possible with greater chance of success. The flight performance still remains competitive for its BR thanks to the powerful DB-605A engine.

Remember, altitude equals advantage. Keep climbing at 20 degrees. Once you've reached 4,000 m, lower the climbing angle to 15 degree to increase speed. Make sure to watch your speed as you climb, you might not want to risk yourself being hit or destroyed by enemy fighter who has a speed advantage over you. The engine will still perform well up to 8,000 m. Use this opportunity to scour for enemy planes, or dive down toward bombers and enemy fighters. If you spot the enemy at your altitude, stop climbing or climb a little to regain your speed. The DB-605A engine provides exceptional speed at higher altitude, which is helpful for 1-on-1 engagements.

If you're getting tailed by enemy fighters, do an Immelmann turn, and scissor to drain enemy fighters' energy. Once your enemy has lost its energy to pursue and begun to stall, use your flaps when pitching up to your enemy, and you can proceed to shoot it down when the time is right. Roll rate in C.205 serie 3 is also good at both medium and high speed, use this to make your enemy overshoot you and run out of their ammo. C.205 also has exceptional manoeuvrability in higher speeds even carrying a pair of 20 mm MG 151, but don't expect to outturn Spitfires and Yaks as you'll bleed your energy and become an easy target. The combat flaps are strong, as long as you can keep your speed at 600 km/h while dogfighting.

While the 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT still remain on this aircraft, the most prominent feature of the C.205 serie 3 is an additional pair of 20 mm MG 151 on the wings, replacing the 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns. Here, with a total of 500 rounds for the 20 mm, you should be able to destroy a fighter with a single burst or a bomber with good shot placement at their wings or fuselage once equipped with the Air targets belt which consists mostly of deadly Minengeschoss shells. While the 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT loses its effective firepower beyond 300-400 m, you can load them with the Tracers belt which is helpful to ignite plane component, although not as easily as the American M2 Browning does. You can set gun targeting distance at 400 m, which is best for intense dogfighting, or pursuing your enemy.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 12 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 12 mm MGs
III Wings repair Engine Offensive 20 mm
IV Engine injection Cover New 20 mm cannons

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good for BnZ
  • Good performance above 4,000 m (13,000 ft)
  • Good armament (especially when using air targets belt)
  • Great ammunition pool
  • Can be used as interceptor against bombers
  • Relatively tough

Cons:

  • Average climb rate means it can find itself below or at equal altitude to the enemy
  • Very sluggish at low speed
  • When stock, the cannons are surprisingly inaccurate and tend to "shotgun" a bit
  • Breda-SAFAT machine guns have a low muzzle velocity, and don't hit very hard

History

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Media

The Shooting Range #49 - Pages of History section at 07:02 discusses the C.205.

See also

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Macchi Aeronautics (Macchi Aeronautica)
Fighters  C.200 serie 3 · C.200 serie 7
  C.202 · C.202EC
  C.205 serie 1 · C.205 serie 3 · C.205N2
Captured  ▀C.200 serie 3 · ▀C.200 serie 7 · ▀C.202

Italy fighters
Fiat  CR.32 · CR.32 bis · CR.32 quater · CR.42 · Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
  G.50 serie 2 · G.50 AS serie 7 · G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55 serie 1 · G.55S · G.56
Reggiane  Re.2000 G.A. · Re.2000 serie 1 · Re.2001 serie 1 · Re.2001 gruppo 22 · Re.2001 CB · Re.2001 CN · Re.2002 Early · Re.2005 serie 0
Macchi  C.200 serie 3 · C.200 serie 7 · C.202 · C.202EC · C.205 serie 1 · C.205 serie 3 · C.205N2
  Foreign:
Germany  ▄Bf 109 G-2 · ▄Bf 109 G-14/AS
Britain  ▄Spitfire Mk Vb/trop
Romania  IAR-81C