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== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German heavy tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was made available during [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]] through the "Flying Serpent, Crouching Tiger" event which spanned from 31 March to 3 April 2018.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
 
 
The Tiger is a famous heavy tank made by the Germans during WWII. It first saw combat in North Africa during 1942 against both American and British tanks like the M3 Lee. The Tiger is most commonly known for its blocky structure and 88-millimetre cannon. Used until the end of the war, it was fantastic in regards to its front armour, but had weaker armour on its sides and back.
 
 
 
This Tiger, often referred to as the "furry Tiger," is a Tiger H1 with a special orange, white and black Tiger stripe camouflage. It is considered a premium tank and as such comes with higher boosters, 30 free repairs and modifications unlocked.  
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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[[File:TigerIHTank Armour Angling.png|right|thumbnail|The ideal angling of hull armour on Tiger I for maximum effective armour all-around|300px]]
 
'''Armour type:'''
 
  
*Rolled homogeneous armour
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*Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)
 
  
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'''Armour type:'''
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* Rolled homogeneous armour
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* Structural steel
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear (Slope angle) !! Roof
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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| Hull || 102 mm (9°) ''Front plate'' <br> 62 mm (80°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 102 mm (25°) ''Lower glacis''|| 82 mm ''Top'' <br /> 62 mm ''Bottom''|| 82 mm (9°)|| 26 mm
 
 
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| Turret || 100 mm ''Turret front'' <br> 90 - 200 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 82 mm || 82 mm || 26 mm
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| Hull || 50 mm (45°), 30 mm (78°), 45 mm (45°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 50 mm (38°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 74 mm (45°) ''Driver's hatch'' || 45 mm (35°) ''Top'' <br> 40 mm ''Bottom'' || 40 mm ''Fighting compartment rear'' <br> 40 mm (10-40°) || 45 mm ''Front'' <br> 15 mm ''Rear''
 
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
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| Turret || 50 mm (20°) ''Turret front'' <br> 48 + 48 mm (1-78°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 45 mm (25-26°) || 45 mm ''Top'' <br> 23 + 50 + 45 mm ''Turret bustle'' || 20 mm
 
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| Cupola || 80 mm || 26 mm
 
 
|}
 
|}
 
'''Notes:'''
 
'''Notes:'''
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* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick, and tracks are 20 mm thick.
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* 4 mm side skirts line up parts of the bottom side hull.
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* Belly armour is 14 mm thick.
  
* Turret front covered by gun mantlet has variable thickness depending on exact place, ranging from 90 to 200 mm of armour.
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Its protection is enough for most medium-ranged engagements but is able to be easily penetrated by most guns at close range. The front plate is a 50 mm plate sloped at 45° allowing for 65-67 mm of total protection, and the drivers hatch on the left side is 76 mm also sloped at 45° allowing for nearly 100 mm of protection. Most shots to the upper glacis won't penetrate thanks to the radical sloping angle of the plate offering 95 mm of armour, but it is possible for it to deflect a shot into the UFP. The gun mantlet is very well protected, with two rounded plates, which each offer roughly 50 mm of protection, stacked on top of each other allowing for a total of 100 mm. Be wary that the turret is a very vulnerable spot due to the nearly flat plate that only has 50 mm of armour.
* Turret side (about 1/3) is covered by attached tracks, adding additional 30 mm of armour.
 
* While the hull side of the tank is 82 mm, the side where the suspension is located is only 62 mm thick so be aware of this weak point.
 
* On paper, the best angle is roughly 38.8° with armour all-round being from the front 130 mm.
 
 
 
One may feel the need to charge head-on into battle, blaring that 88 mm gun as shells bounce off the front armour while the ''Schachtellaufwerk'' suspension system runs over the ground; this is a short-lived strategy.
 
 
 
The Tiger I should be played more like a bulky medium tank rather than a heavy tank despite its status, supporting allies from the sideline or from a distance rather than leading directly from the front. This is due to the poor armour arrangement with its "boxy" features, providing no sloping benefits alone. One must remain a distance, exploit the 88 mm long-distance power, and maintain a diamond-shape compound angling to maximize armour thickness against the trailing enemy shells that will inevitably come towards the Tiger's way.
 
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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Mobility is below average for the rank but is faster than some common tanks like the early Sherman's and Chi-Nu. However, almost every other tank in the rank will easily outrun the {{PAGENAME}} (Such as the early T-34's, [[Cromwell (Family)|Cromwell's]], [[Pz.III M|Pz.III]] and the [[Pz.IV F2]]). The tank's offroad speed is quite good, able to reach 43 kmh / 27 mph on dirt and get to that speed quite quickly. The hull traverse is also very good and the tank is very responsive while in motion, allowing for a very mobile playstyle.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
 
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{{main|KwK 36 (88 mm)}}
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{{main|Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)}}
  
 
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! colspan="6" | [[KwK 36 (88 mm)|88 mm KwK 36]]
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! colspan="6" | [[Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)|75 mm Ansaldo 75 L/34]]
 
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
 
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| colspan="3" | 92 || -/+16° || ±180° || N/A
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| colspan="4" | 63 || -10°/+23° || ±180°  
 
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|-
 
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 7.10 || 9.90 ||16.30||18.00||19.20
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| ''Arcade'' || 8.3 || 11.5 ||22.4||24.8||56.4
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 7.10 || 8.40 ||10.20||11.30||12.00
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| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || 9.8 ||11.9||13.2||14.0
 
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| 9.60 ||8.50||7.90||7.40
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| 6.5 ||5.8||5.3||5.0
 
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The P40 is armed with a [[Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)]], able to hold a total of 63 shells. combining a decent reload with flexible munitions. The P40 has access to a 75 mm APHE round with 79 mm of penetration and a HEAT round with 100 mm of penetration. It is worth noting, either ammunition is usable, but a mix is preferable. Most enemies will easily fall prey to the APHE round, but T-34's, M4 Sherman's, KV1's, are all enemies that require heavier hitting rounds, like the HEAT round. Note turret rotation is mediocre, and traversing the hull is necessary during close range engagements. The average round velocity will make longer-range combat difficult and the penetration drop off of the APHE round becomes quite noticeable.
  
 
===== Ammunition =====
 
===== Ammunition =====
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! 2000m
 
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| PzGr 39 || APCBC ||164|| 162 || 151 ||139||127||117
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| Granata Perforante 75/32 || APCBC || 75 || 72 || 66 || 59 || 53 || 48
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| Pzgr. || APCBC ||153||151||140||128||116||106
 
 
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| Sprgr. L/4,5 || HE || 13 || 13 ||12||12||12||12
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| EPS M42 || HEAT || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100 || 100
 
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| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110 || 110
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| Granata 75/32|| HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
 
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
 
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! 100%
 
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| PzGr 39 || APCBC || 773 || 10 || 0.8 || 28 || 108.8 || +4° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| Granata Perforante 75/32 || 624 || 6.2 || 1.3 || 15 || 270 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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| Pzgr. || APCBC || 810 || 9.5 || 0.8 || 28 || 285.6 || +|| 48° || 63° || 71°
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| EPS M42 || 552 || 5.3 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 656.64 || +|| 62° || 69° || 73°
 
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| Sprgr. L/4,5 || HE || 820 || 9 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 698 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| Granata 75/32|| 552 || 6.4 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 600 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| Hl.Gr 39 || HEAT || 600 || 7.6 || 0.0 || 0.3 || 1,100 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
 
 
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* '''PzGr 39''' <br> The go-to shell for all Tiger H1 drivers as this is arguably the best. It will do incredible damage to any tank shot by it, except SPAA, or any extremely thin armoured vehicles. Heavier tanks like the IS-1, IS-2, or American heavy tanks are able to resist the round at longer ranges, but well-placed shots from close range or sides will do the job. All other medium and light tanks will be history as soon as this shell make contact with them. This shell, however, will almost always over-penetrate all but the most armoured SPAA vehicles, so it is best to use HE or machine gun fire on thin-skinned vehicles.
 
* '''PzGr ''' <br> This shell is also very useful. It has very similar characteristics as PzGr 39, but sacrifices some penetration for about 50% more Explosive Filler, meaning even more damage than already powerful PzGr 39. It is recommended to carry some of these shells and use them regularly, as the penetration is still enough to deal with most targets (at least when being down-tiered), and switch to PzGr 39 when shooting targets far away, or those that are heavily armoured.
 
* '''Sprgr. 39''' <br>The HE shell is completely ineffective against all but SPAA or the AI artillery on the Kursk and Ash River maps, and the machine gun mounted on the Tiger has proven quite capable of dealing with these. Keep a small supply of this shell on hand if planning to flank the enemy and take out their SPAA or artillery, but avoid them for everything else.
 
* '''Hl.Gr. 39''' <br>On paper the HEAT rounds don't bring anything new to the table, however they can be used as a substitute for the HE shells due to the greater explosive mass and still gives a fighting chance if caught with pants down.
 
  
 
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
 
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
[[File:Ammoracks TigerH1.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Tiger I.]]
 
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />  rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br />  rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br />  rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th<br />  rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |8th<br />  rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |9th<br />  rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |10th<br />  rack empty
 
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
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|| '''92''' || 77&nbsp;''(+15)'' || 61&nbsp;''(+31)'' || 45&nbsp;''(+47)'' || 29&nbsp;''(+63)'' || 25&nbsp;''(+67)'' || 21&nbsp;''(+71)'' || 17&nbsp;''(+75)'' || 13&nbsp;''(+79)'' || 7&nbsp;''(+85)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+91)'' || style="text-align:center" | No  
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|| '''63''' || 58&nbsp;''(+5)'' || 53&nbsp;''(+10)'' || 48&nbsp;''(+15)'' || 43&nbsp;''(+20)'' || 22&nbsp;''(+41)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+62)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
 
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Large sides empty: 29&nbsp;''(+63)''
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Recommendations: Sponsons empty: 43 ''(+20)''
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=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)}}
  
 
=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}
 
  
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* [[Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)]] x 2 (One pintle-mounted and one mounted co-axially, 576 rounds total)
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! colspan="7" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
 
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! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
 
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
 
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
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| colspan="4" | 4,350 (150) || 900 || N/A || N/A
 
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== Usage in the battles ==
 
== Usage in the battles ==
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The P40 is a tank that excels in medium-ranged engagements thanks to its decent armour and adequate gun. Due to the relatively small size and good mobility, it can, however, be played as an ambush tank that can sneak around and plant a shot in the enemy's sides, allowing for an easy elimination because of the large explosive filler in the APCBC shell. Be wary that while the tank's armour may protect against many lower-rank cannons, cannons at equivalent BR (Namely the Pz.IV's long-barrelled cannon) are easily capable of destroying the tank.  
The main role of the ''Tiger'' tank was to eliminate enemy tanks at a far range, similar to behaving like a sniping tank, or a Tank Destroyer. Nonetheless, the Tiger can excel at brawling with other tanks at medium, even possibly against two [[Panther D|Panther]] tanks to close range and escape undamaged. It's recommended to not stay in one place for too long or risk getting outflanked, spotted, or bombed.
 
  
While guns like the Soviet [[D-5T (85 mm)|85 mm]] cannon can easily penetrate the Tiger at close range, the Tiger can stay nearly invulnerable at long range. The 88 can take out any tank on Rank 3 at any combat range but may have problems with the [[IS-1]]'s 120 mm front amour at some ranges. When having to close in a bit, it is generally advisable to angle the hull to the sides by about 30°, improving the armour rating enough that it can keep away 85mm shells very well, even at closer ranges. The Tiger is still vulnerable to the [[SU-152|SU-152s]] howitzer and its HE shell at any range. So whenever encountering these heavy-calibre vehicles, it should be prioritized and eliminated first.
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Players in the P40 should always be with teammates, as the P40 is easy prey when separated from its team. Stick with the heavier tanks such as the KV-1's, Churchill's and Matilda's, as they can soak up shots and draw attention away from the weak little P40, allowing the player to sneak around and hit a few tanks. If there are no heavy tanks, the P40's best bet is to support a Sherman or Pz.IV, as both of them can deal with enemies that the P40 can't.
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=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
  
'''Mobility'''-wise the Tiger is pretty good for a heavy tank. It is much faster than a [[KV-1 (ZiS-5)|KV-1]] and about as equally fast as the [[IS-1]], although medium tanks like the [[T-34-85]] can easily outmanoeuvre all three at close range. Try to use the Tiger's mobility to keep a distance rather than for closing in on a target. Don't be afraid to use the speed to fall back if necessary as the Tiger cannot survive close range engagements on open terrain vs. mediums, due to the slow turret and the vulnerability to the 85mm guns on Soviet medium tanks.
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* Decent frontal armour
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* The gun possesses satisfactory performance at its rank
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* Has access to HEAT shells with 100 mm of penetration
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* Stock shell has a lot of explosive filler, making one-shot very common
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* Relatively small for a medium tank
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* Very good in medium-ranged performance
  
The Tiger has a very bad '''turret traverse''', it is recommended to get the ''Turret Drive'' traverse modification as fast as possible. Even then, the Tiger will have to turn the tank in the direction of the traverse to make the most of the time to quickly engage a target. This, together with very exposed ammo racks on both sides (though one side can be emptied by reducing the ammo stowage) means that facing multiple enemies at once is almost a certain end to the Tiger tank. The best option is to take cover from one tank and fire on the other.
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'''Cons:'''
  
As far as ammo is concerned, the default ''PzGr 39'' will be the standard AP rounds many players will use. The second AP round available, the ''Pzgr.'', is also a good round to use against the enemy as the shell contains more explosive filler than the default, but suffers from a lower penetration value compared to the ''PzGr 39''. The HEAT rounds offer consistent penetration at all ranges including more than 2000m. However, they provide less damage upon penetration. HEAT rounds usually are usually not used as the primary ammunition type for this sole reason. Upgrading the tank should mainly be dedicated to turret traverse, hull traverse (as this is needed even with the turret traverse upgrade) and engine upgrades. The Tiger's 88 has massive destructive power. Unlike the other German tank of its rank, all armed with 75 mm guns, the Tiger can easily one-shot all the mediums like the T-34s, M4 Shermans, and still be a threat against heavy tanks like the IS-1s. If it doesn't destroy a tank in one hit, most of the enemy crew will be wounded or incapacitated. The best place to aim with the 88 is either at the gunner's side of the enemy turret to incapacitate an enemy's firepower, or between the driver and the gunner which would usually wound or knock out most of the enemy crew at once. Attacking from the side also presents a good shot opportunity, as the best shot placement is right below the turret on the hull where most of the tank ammunition are stored, giving a big chance for an ammo-rack explosion.
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* Overall penetration is not that great
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* Pitifully low ammo count for each machine gun belt
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* Armour can still be penetrated by a few enemies of rank II, most notably by the long-barreled Panzer IVs
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* Breda Mod. 38's have a very low magazine count
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* Lower than the average speed
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* Mediocre turret traverse
  
When driving the Tiger, plan ahead on where it will drive. Even with engine and track modifications, the Tiger is still a heavy tank and a 90 degree or more turn will almost always mean an immediate standstill as the tank try to make the change in movement. Even small adjustments can knock the speed down a bit. Thus, knowing the terrain and destination is of the utmost importance to preserve its mobility to its fullest extent.
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== History ==
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The Carro Pesante P26/40 was Italy's best tank that saw service in the war. Despite only weighing 29 tonnes, which is significantly less than almost every other country's heavy tanks, it was classed as a heavy tank due to Italy's tank design doctrine. In early 1940, the Italians started working on a 25 tonne "heavy" infantry support tank that was intended to fight alongside the "M" class medium tanks. The recent Africa campaign showed the massive problems the Italian tanks in production had, namely a lack of armour and insufficient firepower, prompting the army to make some changes. Initially designated as "P75" due to the 75 mm short-barrelled 75/32 mm cannon that was changed to a longer barrelled 75/34 with higher potency. The initial prototype was powered by a 330 hp diesel engine but was changed to a traditional petrol-fueled engine due to the unimpressive performance of the diesel engine, which forced the Ansaldo engineers to delay the program until the necessary modifications to the chassis and body could be made to fit the petrol engine. This eventually produced a petrol engine titled "V-12 SPA 342" delivering 420 hp. The vehicle was adopted and was named "P26/40", 26 for the weight and 40 for the year it was designed.
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== Media ==
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''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
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== Read also ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
  
The Tiger is also best used on the flanks of the current maps, as these are usually more open and allow good use of its armour and excellent gun. The centre of the map would seem more logical as there are a lot of enemies, but as has already been established a Tiger taking fire from multiple directions won't last long. Going in a flank and taking down light and medium tanks is an easy task for this beast, and thus a flank can be easily secured if the Tiger is driven carefully. Then, work the Tiger into the enemy sides and rear of the main force in the centre, doing much more damage than if the Tiger faced the force head-on because a shot to the side and rear will set most enemies alight if not outright exploding the ammunition. Able to destroy vehicles in one hit, the Tiger can quickly jump from target to target and eliminate a good number of enemies in its lifespan.
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
  
There will be many hard eggs to crack such as the IS- Series, T-34 Series, American Jumbos, and several other tanks that will give the Tiger I trouble.
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''ETC.''
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== Sources ==
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* The Russians have many tanks at the BR able to handle the Tiger H1 easily. The main tank at this BR is the T-34-85's. While it may have very thin armour and is easy to penetrate it is easy to angle and the T-34 is a franking machine, it will drive circles around the Tiger so it needs to be destroyed quick. The IS- Heavy tanks are the second worst nightmare situation. Thick armour and a huge gun. If the IS tank is not destroyed first, it will definitely destroy the Tiger.
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
* The American Jumbos are similar to the T-34. The 75 mm variant would have trouble to penetrate the Tiger's armour at long ranges, but caution needs to be exercised when they are armed with a 76 mm gun.
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* The Japanese tanks all have very thin armour that the 88 mm gun can easily penetrate through with no problem, but their guns at this BR all have enough penetration to deal with the Tiger if it gets a hit on.
 
  
=== Modules ===
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!Protection
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! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
! colspan="2" |Firepower
 
 
|-
 
|-
|I
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
|Tracks||
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
|Parts
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
|Horizontal Drive||Pzgr.
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
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|II
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| colspan="4" | 288 (24) || 600 || -10°/+20° || ±180°
|Suspension||Brake System
 
|FPE
 
|Adjustment of Fire||HL.Gr 39
 
 
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|-
|III
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|Filters||
 
|Crew Replenishment
 
|Elevation Mechanism||Smoke Grenade
 
 
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|-
|IV
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|Transmission||Engine
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
|
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
|
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="6" |This is a premium vehicle, all modules are unlocked from owning it
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| colspan="4" | 288 (24) || 600 || N/A || N/A
 
|-
 
|-
|}
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=== Machine guns ===
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The P40 is a tank that excels in medium-ranged engagements thanks to its decent armour and adequate gun. Due to the relatively small size and good mobility, it can, however, be played as an ambush tank that can sneak around and plant a shot in the enemy's sides, allowing for an easy elimination because of the large explosive filler in the APCBC shell. Be wary that while the tank's armour may protect against many lower-rank cannons, cannons at equivalent BR (Namely the Pz.IV's long-barrelled cannon) are easily capable of destroying the tank.
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Players in the P40 should always be with teammates, as the P40 is easy prey when separated from its team. Stick with the heavier tanks such as the KV-1's, Churchill's and Matilda's, as they can soak up shots and draw attention away from the weak little P40, allowing the player to sneak around and hit a few tanks. If there are no heavy tanks, the P40's best bet is to support a Sherman or Pz.IV, as both of them can deal with enemies that the P40 can't.
  
 
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'''Pros:'''
  
* Turret armour is particularly hard to penetrate, especially around the mantlet
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* Decent frontal armour
* One of the fastest heavy tanks with its top speed of 45 km/h
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* The gun possesses satisfactory performance at its rank
* Good reverse speed
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* Has access to HEAT shells with 100 mm of penetration
* It's box-like shape gives the ability to some angling tactics
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* Stock shell has a lot of explosive filler, making one-shot very common
* The rear is surprisingly hard to penetrate, partially due to the slightly-angled armour and partly due to the large exhaust pipes which seem to deflect shells
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* Relatively small for a medium tank
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* Very good in medium-ranged performance
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Has trouble dealing with other heavy tanks
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* Overall penetration is not that great
* Only performs well against soft targets
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* Pitifully low ammo count for each machine gun belt
* Lower Glacis is easy to penetrate, therefore watch for one going over hills
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* Armour can still be penetrated by a few enemies of rank II, most notably by the long-barreled Panzer IVs
* Transmission catches fire easily if struck
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* Breda Mod. 38's have a very low magazine count
* Ammo racks offer great targets
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* Lower than the average speed
* Slow acceleration and turning speed
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* Mediocre turret traverse
* Turret traverse is second slowest on heavy tank line for Germany
 
* Low manoeuvrability, susceptible to being outflanked by more quicker adversaries
 
* Unsloped armour on all sides
 
* Armor is worthless unless angled
 
* Can meet against some tough opponents
 
* S-Mine dischargers on the hull limits gun depression in certain areas
 
  
 
== History ==
 
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The Carro Pesante P26/40 was Italy's best tank that saw service in the war. Despite only weighing 29 tonnes, which is significantly less than almost every other country's heavy tanks, it was classed as a heavy tank due to Italy's tank design doctrine. In early 1940, the Italians started working on a 25 tonne "heavy" infantry support tank that was intended to fight alongside the "M" class medium tanks. The recent Africa campaign showed the massive problems the Italian tanks in production had, namely a lack of armour and insufficient firepower, prompting the army to make some changes. Initially designated as "P75" due to the 75 mm short-barrelled 75/32 mm cannon that was changed to a longer barrelled 75/34 with higher potency. The initial prototype was powered by a 330 hp diesel engine but was changed to a traditional petrol-fueled engine due to the unimpressive performance of the diesel engine, which forced the Ansaldo engineers to delay the program until the necessary modifications to the chassis and body could be made to fit the petrol engine. This eventually produced a petrol engine titled "V-12 SPA 342" delivering 420 hp. The vehicle was adopted and was named "P26/40", 26 for the weight and 40 for the year it was designed.
  
 
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
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This page is about the Italian medium tank P40. For other uses, see P40 (Disambiguation). For the premium version, see P40 "G.C. Leoncello".

Description

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The Fiat-Ansaldo P40 is a rank II Italian medium tank with a battle rating of 3.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Structural steel
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 50 mm (45°), 30 mm (78°), 45 mm (45°) Front glacis
50 mm (38°) Lower glacis
74 mm (45°) Driver's hatch
45 mm (35°) Top
40 mm Bottom
40 mm Fighting compartment rear
40 mm (10-40°)
45 mm Front
15 mm Rear
Turret 50 mm (20°) Turret front
48 + 48 mm (1-78°) Gun mantlet
45 mm (25-26°) 45 mm Top
23 + 50 + 45 mm Turret bustle
20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick, and tracks are 20 mm thick.
  • 4 mm side skirts line up parts of the bottom side hull.
  • Belly armour is 14 mm thick.

Its protection is enough for most medium-ranged engagements but is able to be easily penetrated by most guns at close range. The front plate is a 50 mm plate sloped at 45° allowing for 65-67 mm of total protection, and the drivers hatch on the left side is 76 mm also sloped at 45° allowing for nearly 100 mm of protection. Most shots to the upper glacis won't penetrate thanks to the radical sloping angle of the plate offering 95 mm of armour, but it is possible for it to deflect a shot into the UFP. The gun mantlet is very well protected, with two rounded plates, which each offer roughly 50 mm of protection, stacked on top of each other allowing for a total of 100 mm. Be wary that the turret is a very vulnerable spot due to the nearly flat plate that only has 50 mm of armour.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 45 5 26 511 630 19.65 24.23
Realistic 41 5 292 330 11.23 12.69

Mobility is below average for the rank but is faster than some common tanks like the early Sherman's and Chi-Nu. However, almost every other tank in the rank will easily outrun the P40 (Such as the early T-34's, Cromwell's, Pz.III and the Pz.IV F2). The tank's offroad speed is quite good, able to reach 43 kmh / 27 mph on dirt and get to that speed quite quickly. The hull traverse is also very good and the tank is very responsive while in motion, allowing for a very mobile playstyle.

Armaments

Main armament

75 mm Ansaldo 75 L/34
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
63 -10°/+23° ±180°
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 8.3 11.5 22.4 24.8 56.4
Realistic 8.3 9.8 11.9 13.2 14.0
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
6.5 5.8 5.3 5.0

The P40 is armed with a Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm), able to hold a total of 63 shells. combining a decent reload with flexible munitions. The P40 has access to a 75 mm APHE round with 79 mm of penetration and a HEAT round with 100 mm of penetration. It is worth noting, either ammunition is usable, but a mix is preferable. Most enemies will easily fall prey to the APHE round, but T-34's, M4 Sherman's, KV1's, are all enemies that require heavier hitting rounds, like the HEAT round. Note turret rotation is mediocre, and traversing the hull is necessary during close range engagements. The average round velocity will make longer-range combat difficult and the penetration drop off of the APHE round becomes quite noticeable.

Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Granata Perforante 75/32 APCBC 75 72 66 59 53 48
EPS M42 HEAT 100 100 100 100 100 100
Granata 75/32 HE 9 9 9 9 9 9
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante 75/32 624 6.2 1.3 15 270 ° 48° 63° 71°
EPS M42 552 5.3 0.0 0.1 656.64 +0° 62° 69° 73°
Granata 75/32 552 6.4 0.4 0.1 600 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
63 58 (+5) 53 (+10) 48 (+15) 43 (+20) 22 (+41) (+62) No

Recommendations: Sponsons empty: 43 (+20)

Machine guns

Main article: Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)

Machine guns

Usage in the battles

The P40 is a tank that excels in medium-ranged engagements thanks to its decent armour and adequate gun. Due to the relatively small size and good mobility, it can, however, be played as an ambush tank that can sneak around and plant a shot in the enemy's sides, allowing for an easy elimination because of the large explosive filler in the APCBC shell. Be wary that while the tank's armour may protect against many lower-rank cannons, cannons at equivalent BR (Namely the Pz.IV's long-barrelled cannon) are easily capable of destroying the tank.

Players in the P40 should always be with teammates, as the P40 is easy prey when separated from its team. Stick with the heavier tanks such as the KV-1's, Churchill's and Matilda's, as they can soak up shots and draw attention away from the weak little P40, allowing the player to sneak around and hit a few tanks. If there are no heavy tanks, the P40's best bet is to support a Sherman or Pz.IV, as both of them can deal with enemies that the P40 can't.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent frontal armour
  • The gun possesses satisfactory performance at its rank
  • Has access to HEAT shells with 100 mm of penetration
  • Stock shell has a lot of explosive filler, making one-shot very common
  • Relatively small for a medium tank
  • Very good in medium-ranged performance

Cons:

  • Overall penetration is not that great
  • Pitifully low ammo count for each machine gun belt
  • Armour can still be penetrated by a few enemies of rank II, most notably by the long-barreled Panzer IVs
  • Breda Mod. 38's have a very low magazine count
  • Lower than the average speed
  • Mediocre turret traverse

History

The Carro Pesante P26/40 was Italy's best tank that saw service in the war. Despite only weighing 29 tonnes, which is significantly less than almost every other country's heavy tanks, it was classed as a heavy tank due to Italy's tank design doctrine. In early 1940, the Italians started working on a 25 tonne "heavy" infantry support tank that was intended to fight alongside the "M" class medium tanks. The recent Africa campaign showed the massive problems the Italian tanks in production had, namely a lack of armour and insufficient firepower, prompting the army to make some changes. Initially designated as "P75" due to the 75 mm short-barrelled 75/32 mm cannon that was changed to a longer barrelled 75/34 with higher potency. The initial prototype was powered by a 330 hp diesel engine but was changed to a traditional petrol-fueled engine due to the unimpressive performance of the diesel engine, which forced the Ansaldo engineers to delay the program until the necessary modifications to the chassis and body could be made to fit the petrol engine. This eventually produced a petrol engine titled "V-12 SPA 342" delivering 420 hp. The vehicle was adopted and was named "P26/40", 26 for the weight and 40 for the year it was designed.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

ETC.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
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Machine guns

Main article: Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)

Usage in the battles

The P40 is a tank that excels in medium-ranged engagements thanks to its decent armour and adequate gun. Due to the relatively small size and good mobility, it can, however, be played as an ambush tank that can sneak around and plant a shot in the enemy's sides, allowing for an easy elimination because of the large explosive filler in the APCBC shell. Be wary that while the tank's armour may protect against many lower-rank cannons, cannons at equivalent BR (Namely the Pz.IV's long-barrelled cannon) are easily capable of destroying the tank.

Players in the P40 should always be with teammates, as the P40 is easy prey when separated from its team. Stick with the heavier tanks such as the KV-1's, Churchill's and Matilda's, as they can soak up shots and draw attention away from the weak little P40, allowing the player to sneak around and hit a few tanks. If there are no heavy tanks, the P40's best bet is to support a Sherman or Pz.IV, as both of them can deal with enemies that the P40 can't.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent frontal armour
  • The gun possesses satisfactory performance at its rank
  • Has access to HEAT shells with 100 mm of penetration
  • Stock shell has a lot of explosive filler, making one-shot very common
  • Relatively small for a medium tank
  • Very good in medium-ranged performance

Cons:

  • Overall penetration is not that great
  • Pitifully low ammo count for each machine gun belt
  • Armour can still be penetrated by a few enemies of rank II, most notably by the long-barreled Panzer IVs
  • Breda Mod. 38's have a very low magazine count
  • Lower than the average speed
  • Mediocre turret traverse

History

The Carro Pesante P26/40 was Italy's best tank that saw service in the war. Despite only weighing 29 tonnes, which is significantly less than almost every other country's heavy tanks, it was classed as a heavy tank due to Italy's tank design doctrine. In early 1940, the Italians started working on a 25 tonne "heavy" infantry support tank that was intended to fight alongside the "M" class medium tanks. The recent Africa campaign showed the massive problems the Italian tanks in production had, namely a lack of armour and insufficient firepower, prompting the army to make some changes. Initially designated as "P75" due to the 75 mm short-barrelled 75/32 mm cannon that was changed to a longer barrelled 75/34 with higher potency. The initial prototype was powered by a 330 hp diesel engine but was changed to a traditional petrol-fueled engine due to the unimpressive performance of the diesel engine, which forced the Ansaldo engineers to delay the program until the necessary modifications to the chassis and body could be made to fit the petrol engine. This eventually produced a petrol engine titled "V-12 SPA 342" delivering 420 hp. The vehicle was adopted and was named "P26/40", 26 for the weight and 40 for the year it was designed.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

ETC.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


8 mm Breda Mod. 38
Pintle mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
288 (24) 600 -10°/+20° ±180°
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
288 (24) 600 N/A N/A
Italy medium tanks
  Italy
M13/40  M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41  M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42  M15/42
M16/43  Celere Sahariano
P26/40  P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
OF-40  OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA)
Ariete  Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV
Germany  ▄Pz.III N · ▄Pz.IV G · ▄Leopard 1A5
Allied powers  ▄Sherman I Composito · Sherman Ic · ▄Sherman Vc · ▄Sherman V · M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M26A1 · M47 (105/55) · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete"
  Hungary
Turán  Turan I · Turan II · Turan III
Germany  ◔Leopard 2A4
USSR  ◔T-72M1