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The Finnish Messerschmitt is one of the 159 units of German Bf 109s that arrived for the Finnish air force to use during the Continuation War; out of those 159 units, 109 were G-6 models. The model in-game carries the designation number MT-422.
 
The Finnish Messerschmitt is one of the 159 units of German Bf 109s that arrived for the Finnish air force to use during the Continuation War; out of those 159 units, 109 were G-6 models. The model in-game carries the designation number MT-422.
  
The performance is virtually identical to the [[Bf 109 G-6]] in the German tech tree; visually, the difference between the two is that the Finnish G-6 has a tropical air filter. It does not affect performance.
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The performance is virtually identical to the [[Bf 109 G-6]] in the German tech tree; the difference between the two is that the Finnish G-6 has a tropical air filter and a Finnish paintjob. These differences do not affect the performance, they are purely visual.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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When stock, you should side climb and enter combat with a superior altitude before engaging. Your enemies will render you ineffective if you don't have the height advantage. However, when it's fully upgraded you might omit side-climbing as the plane should generally get you either at the same altitude or above the opponent. WEP is very effective, so use it to get to an effective altitude in the least amount of time. The engine overheats quite fast, but it also cools down rapidly. Don't be afraid to use WEP even if your temperature is yellow or red.
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You should side climb and enter combat with a superior altitude before engaging. Your enemies will render you ineffective if you don't have the height advantage. However, side-climbing should generally get you either at the same altitude or above the opponent. WEP is very effective, so use it to get to an effective altitude in the least amount of time. The engine overheats quite fast, but it also cools down rapidly. Don't be afraid to use WEP even if your temperature is yellow or red.
  
 
If you're engaging an enemy while you have an energy advantage, you should do everything in your power to keep or regain this advantage while depleting his. The Bf 109 can achieve this through the use of energy traps like rope-a-dopes, and to disengage when a foe avoids your boom. When neither you or the enemy has an advantage, you should avoid head-ons with the least amount of energy waste. Most of the time the enemy tries to get back on your 6 o clock, which drains his energy much more than yours. This gives you the opportunity to extend, climb, or bait him into an energy trap. Should you, however, face an enemy with superior altitude or speed, attempt to evade his booms on you or force him to overshoot.
 
If you're engaging an enemy while you have an energy advantage, you should do everything in your power to keep or regain this advantage while depleting his. The Bf 109 can achieve this through the use of energy traps like rope-a-dopes, and to disengage when a foe avoids your boom. When neither you or the enemy has an advantage, you should avoid head-ons with the least amount of energy waste. Most of the time the enemy tries to get back on your 6 o clock, which drains his energy much more than yours. This gives you the opportunity to extend, climb, or bait him into an energy trap. Should you, however, face an enemy with superior altitude or speed, attempt to evade his booms on you or force him to overshoot.
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In Simulator, the Bf 109 G-6 is quite a friendly fighter that can perform many tasks. It offers great flight performance with its smooth handling, adequate speed, and impressive climb rate and turn rate. Its nose-mounted guns do not require any convergence setting, making it very easy to aim. The nose gently slopes down from the windscreen, offering great over-the-nose visibility. The late G models also have an improved canopy side with less frames, and the solid armour headset is replaced by a transparent bulletproof glass, allowing some rear views which is better over the F models. Said bulletproof glass, however, has a thick metal frame, thus you can only see through the middle at a small portion of the tail. Still this is better than not being able to see anything behind at all. There are bombs of 50kg/250kg to choose from which are beneficial for ground-pounding or base-bombing, although these are not its primary objectives. However, the Bf 109 G does have pretty limited cockpit view obstructed by its numerous canopy frames and handles. The inclusion of two 13mm MG131 creates two large, visible bulges on the nose, just in front of the windscreen, obstructing the pilot's downward view. The plane also behaves poorly during takeoffs due to its torquey engine.
 
In Simulator, the Bf 109 G-6 is quite a friendly fighter that can perform many tasks. It offers great flight performance with its smooth handling, adequate speed, and impressive climb rate and turn rate. Its nose-mounted guns do not require any convergence setting, making it very easy to aim. The nose gently slopes down from the windscreen, offering great over-the-nose visibility. The late G models also have an improved canopy side with less frames, and the solid armour headset is replaced by a transparent bulletproof glass, allowing some rear views which is better over the F models. Said bulletproof glass, however, has a thick metal frame, thus you can only see through the middle at a small portion of the tail. Still this is better than not being able to see anything behind at all. There are bombs of 50kg/250kg to choose from which are beneficial for ground-pounding or base-bombing, although these are not its primary objectives. However, the Bf 109 G does have pretty limited cockpit view obstructed by its numerous canopy frames and handles. The inclusion of two 13mm MG131 creates two large, visible bulges on the nose, just in front of the windscreen, obstructing the pilot's downward view. The plane also behaves poorly during takeoffs due to its torquey engine.
  
Bring at least 30 minutes of fuel for prolonged patrolling and fighting. The convergence does not really matter, it might be anywhere between 250-600 m. Depending on the task you wish to complete (eg destroy enemy attackers), gunpods can be helpful, if available. Although they slightly worsen the flight performance, that extra burst mass can be the difference between a "Hit" and "Aircraft destroyed". Finally, you can set keys for vertical head movement, as lifting up your head a little helps improving the over-the-nose visibility which helps you to track target.
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Bring at least 30 minutes of fuel for prolonged patrolling and fighting. The convergence does not really matter, it might be anywhere between 250-600 m. Depending on the task you wish to complete (eg destroy enemy attackers), gunpods are helpful for this task. Although they slightly worsen the flight performance, that extra burst mass can be the difference between a "Hit" and "Aircraft destroyed". Finally, you can set keys for vertical head movement, as lifting up your head a little helps improving the over-the-nose visibility which helps you to track target.
  
 
Taking off in a late Bf 109 is harder than other aircraft, so one should familiarise themselves with the earlier 109s. When taking off, the Bf 109 will shift severely to the left side due to the huge torque, so consider setting keybinds for left and right brakes, as they are more effective at directional control than the rudder while on the ground. As the plane just lifts off the ground it will automatically roll to the left again due to the torque, so you must immediately roll a little right to keep it level, or the left wingtip will strike the ground.
 
Taking off in a late Bf 109 is harder than other aircraft, so one should familiarise themselves with the earlier 109s. When taking off, the Bf 109 will shift severely to the left side due to the huge torque, so consider setting keybinds for left and right brakes, as they are more effective at directional control than the rudder while on the ground. As the plane just lifts off the ground it will automatically roll to the left again due to the torque, so you must immediately roll a little right to keep it level, or the left wingtip will strike the ground.
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* More agile than the [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190s]]
 
* More agile than the [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190s]]
 
* Very good radiators for being a late war 109, they're responsive and will keep the engine cooler for way longer than the G-2's
 
* Very good radiators for being a late war 109, they're responsive and will keep the engine cooler for way longer than the G-2's
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* More economical to fly than the German G-6, although this is compensated by decreased SL multiplier
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
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▄Bf 109 G-6
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▄Bf 109 G-6
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Description

The ▄Bf 109 G-6 is a premium rank IV Swedish fighter with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB) and 4.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Red Skies".

The Finnish Messerschmitt is one of the 159 units of German Bf 109s that arrived for the Finnish air force to use during the Continuation War; out of those 159 units, 109 were G-6 models. The model in-game carries the designation number MT-422.

The performance is virtually identical to the Bf 109 G-6 in the German tech tree; the difference between the two is that the Finnish G-6 has a tropical air filter and a Finnish paintjob. These differences do not affect the performance, they are purely visual.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 5 500 m668 km/h
Turn time20 s
Max altitude11 500 m
EngineDaimler-Benz DB-605AM
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight4 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 5,500 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 636 616 11500 21.3 22.1 14.0 14.0 343
Upgraded 705 668 19.3 20.0 27.6 19.5

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
790 360 437 408 260 ~13 ~6
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 450 < 390 < 450 > 715

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural790 km/h
Gear360 km/h
  • 60 mm Bulletproof glass in front and rear of the cockpit.
  • 4-8 mm Steel plates on pilot seat.
  • 10 mm Steel plates around pilot's head.
  • 21 mm Steel plate on the rear of the fuel tank, with 4 mm plates surrounding it on other sides.
  • Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 large one behind pilot)

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB1 941 Sl icon.png
RB4 177 Sl icon.png
SB5 788 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts320 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 050 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 100 / 230 / 480 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 172 / 172 / 172 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods ammo.png
mg131_belt_pack
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mg131_new_gun
Mods pilon bomb.png
SC 50
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
Flamm C 250
Mods ammo.png
mg15120_belt_pack
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mg15120_new_gun
Mods pilon bomb.png
SC 250
Mods ammo.png
mk108_belt_pack
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mk108_new_gun
Mods cannon.png
U4 modification
Mods gunpods.png
R5 modification
Mods gunpods.png
R6 modification
Mods pilon rocket.png
W.Gr.21

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition200 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Ammunition600 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min

The Bf 109 G-6 (Sweden) is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • 1 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, nose-mounted (200 rpg) + 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
    • 1 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon, nose-mounted (65 rpg) + 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)

The two machine guns are located just forward of the pilot firing out of the nose of the aircraft. The cannon (either 20 mm or 30 mm) is mounted in the propeller shaft and will fire through the propeller hub. The 30 mm cannon can only be installed once the corresponding module at tier III is unlocked. The best 20 mm belt is "Air Targets", the best 13 mm belt is "IAI" or "Stealth" and the best 30 mm belt is the "Universal" or "Stealth".

Suspended armament

List of setups (6)
Setup 14 x 50 kg SC50JA bomb
Setup 21 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb
Setup 31 x Flam C 250 incendiary bomb
Setup 42 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon (secondary) (ammunition: 70 rounds)
Setup 52 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon (secondary) (ammunition: 270 rounds)
Setup 62 x Wfr.Gr.21 rockets

The Bf 109 G-6 (Sweden) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (200 kg total)
  • 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (250 kg total)
  • 2 x 30 mm MK 108 cannons (35 rpg = 70 total)
  • 2 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons (135 rpg = 270 total)
  • 2 x Wfr.Gr.21 rockets

Usage in battles

You should side climb and enter combat with a superior altitude before engaging. Your enemies will render you ineffective if you don't have the height advantage. However, side-climbing should generally get you either at the same altitude or above the opponent. WEP is very effective, so use it to get to an effective altitude in the least amount of time. The engine overheats quite fast, but it also cools down rapidly. Don't be afraid to use WEP even if your temperature is yellow or red.

If you're engaging an enemy while you have an energy advantage, you should do everything in your power to keep or regain this advantage while depleting his. The Bf 109 can achieve this through the use of energy traps like rope-a-dopes, and to disengage when a foe avoids your boom. When neither you or the enemy has an advantage, you should avoid head-ons with the least amount of energy waste. Most of the time the enemy tries to get back on your 6 o clock, which drains his energy much more than yours. This gives you the opportunity to extend, climb, or bait him into an energy trap. Should you, however, face an enemy with superior altitude or speed, attempt to evade his booms on you or force him to overshoot.

When it comes to armament you have the choice of a 20 or 30 mm cannon in the engine, and gun pods of the same calibre. The 20 mm gun has good gun characteristics with decent damage and a good ammo count, while the 30 mm deals devastating damage but has a low ammo capacity and a very slow shell velocity. The gun pods aren't recommended in realistic battles as they dramatically decrease the plane's performance.

In Simulator, the Bf 109 G-6 is quite a friendly fighter that can perform many tasks. It offers great flight performance with its smooth handling, adequate speed, and impressive climb rate and turn rate. Its nose-mounted guns do not require any convergence setting, making it very easy to aim. The nose gently slopes down from the windscreen, offering great over-the-nose visibility. The late G models also have an improved canopy side with less frames, and the solid armour headset is replaced by a transparent bulletproof glass, allowing some rear views which is better over the F models. Said bulletproof glass, however, has a thick metal frame, thus you can only see through the middle at a small portion of the tail. Still this is better than not being able to see anything behind at all. There are bombs of 50kg/250kg to choose from which are beneficial for ground-pounding or base-bombing, although these are not its primary objectives. However, the Bf 109 G does have pretty limited cockpit view obstructed by its numerous canopy frames and handles. The inclusion of two 13mm MG131 creates two large, visible bulges on the nose, just in front of the windscreen, obstructing the pilot's downward view. The plane also behaves poorly during takeoffs due to its torquey engine.

Bring at least 30 minutes of fuel for prolonged patrolling and fighting. The convergence does not really matter, it might be anywhere between 250-600 m. Depending on the task you wish to complete (eg destroy enemy attackers), gunpods are helpful for this task. Although they slightly worsen the flight performance, that extra burst mass can be the difference between a "Hit" and "Aircraft destroyed". Finally, you can set keys for vertical head movement, as lifting up your head a little helps improving the over-the-nose visibility which helps you to track target.

Taking off in a late Bf 109 is harder than other aircraft, so one should familiarise themselves with the earlier 109s. When taking off, the Bf 109 will shift severely to the left side due to the huge torque, so consider setting keybinds for left and right brakes, as they are more effective at directional control than the rudder while on the ground. As the plane just lifts off the ground it will automatically roll to the left again due to the torque, so you must immediately roll a little right to keep it level, or the left wingtip will strike the ground.

Dogfighting in SB involves everyday RB tactics and manoeuvres such as Immelmann, Split-S, scissor, barrel roll, etc. Note: the Bf 109 handles very sluggishly in the roll axis at low speed, so take this into account if dogfighting at low speed/altitude. You can even pull the elevator fully for maximum agility, but only if you pull gently and gradually will the 109 manoeuvre as you wish. If the stick is pulled harshly and suddenly, the plane will start swaying around and enter a flat spin. The aircraft can quite easily recover from a flat spin by fully deflecting elevators downward and rudder to the opposite side of which the plane is spinning, and wait until it starts a dive and gather some speed to pull up.

  • If you want to engage bombers, consider bring gunpods to maximise your damage output. Against late-war heavy bombers like B-17, relying solely on the one central cannon might also work, but that requires more professional evading and longer aiming which is considerably more dangerous, as the bombers you see will be better armed. Choosing between the 30 mm and 20 mm gunpods is up to you. The extra two Mk 108 will significantly boost your one-second burst mass and damage which can be very destructive for experienced pilots doing deflection shots, however the pathetic 35 rounds each gun will not last long in, for example, "destroy enemy bombers" mission where there are ~10 aircraft to down. The pair of MG151 is more balanced in terms of ammo and velocity, although they do not pack as much punch in a short firing window. With the powerful mineshells, 1-3 passes are enough to destroy any aircraft. In fact gunpods can also be helpful in dogfights against fighters, as the slight decrease in performance does not matter a lot in simulator, rather the ability to cripple/destroy the target as soon as you get a chance to is way more important.
  • Landing may need practice for some. It is easy at first: decelerate and descent towards the runway, deploy combat, takeoff, landing flaps and gears in such order, fly at ~210 km/h before touchdown. Now note that you must align the plane with the airstrip correctly prior to touchdown and do not yaw/break one side too much when breaking, as the undercarriages are so close together that they cannot support such lateral force, causing the plane to wobble on the tires dangerously or even tilt towards one side, striking a wingtip into the ground. At last, you can break until the plane reaches a full stop and not worry about propeller strike.

Specific enemies worth noting

Your worst enemies in the Bf-109 G-6 are the Spitfires and the P-47D/N/M Thunderbolts. The Spitfire can out-turn you at almost all altitudes below 4,000 meters. You have to be really careful when engaging a P-47 with an altitude advantage against you. The best thing you can do in that case is to turn away and keep climbing. If the Thunderbolt dives on you, turn into the head-on, fire a few rounds then use your superior roll rate to do a split-S. If a Spitfire engages you DO NOT try to turn with it! If you try, you will have fallen into their trap, your best defence is similar to the tactics employed against the Thunderbolt, split-S and use your roll rate.

Counter-tactics

If you're facing this plane, try to deplete its energy and force the plane either low or high. At higher altitudes, the engine performance is poor at best, and at lower ones, the plane loses energy quickly with no fast means to regain it. Avoid head-ons, as the enemy aircraft can potentially carry up to 3 x 30 mm guns.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Auto control available
Controllable
Auto control available
Controllable
Auto control available
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Extremely good climb rate, even at high altitudes
  • Very good energy retention
  • Great for stalling out enemies, as the stall control is excellent
  • Good low speed manoeuvrability without gunpods: you'll outurn planes like the P-47s and the early P-51s at low speeds
  • Can install 2 types of gunpods for greatly increased firepower
  • The plane is overall very durable, with armour plates covering the only fuel tank
  • Very powerful engine when using WEP
  • More agile than the Fw 190s
  • Very good radiators for being a late war 109, they're responsive and will keep the engine cooler for way longer than the G-2's
  • More economical to fly than the German G-6, although this is compensated by decreased SL multiplier

Cons:

  • Engine produces less horsepower on 100% throttle than the Bf 109 G-2, while being about 200 kg heavier
  • Poor armament: unless using gunpods, head-ons should be avoided at all costs
  • Outdated airframe means compression speed and rip speed are lower than most enemies you'll face
  • Engine still overheats, although not that often as the F or the G-2 model
  • Mounted weaponry/payloads will reduce flight performance significantly
  • 30 mm MK 108 cannons have low ammo count
  • Flaps are very sluggish to deploy and they rip at low speed
  • 13 mm machine guns don't hit very hard
  • For Sim, the numerous canopy frames and razorback greatly limit the all-round view, and huge engine torque causes severe turning when taking off

History

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Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Sweden fighters
ASJA  J6B
Saab  J21A-1 · J21A-2 · A21A-3
FFVS  J22-A · J22-B
Foreign Import  J8A · Iacobi's J8A · J9 Early · J11 · J20 · J26 David · J26
Finland 
VL  Mörkö-Morane · VL Myrsky II · VL Pyörremyrsky
(NL) Fokker  ▄Fokker D.XXI-3 · ▄Fokker D.XXI
(DE) Messerschmitt  ▄Bf 109 G-2 · ▄Bf 109 G-6 Erla · ▄Bf 109 G-6
Other  ▄B-239 · ▄Hurricane Mk I/L

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