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== General info ==
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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The AMX-13 is a flanker. This combined with the SS.11 ATGMs on board gives the ability to do two different styles. Either to zoom around (shoot’n’scoot) or stand far back and send missiles flying towards the enemies. In RB though, the missiles are controlled by WASD, making aiming a little bit more difficult. Furthermore, avoid getting shot at '''all cost!''' The armour might save you from 0.50 cals, but 14.5 mm and larger will destroy the vehicle in its entirety. Flanking is a viable option, done in the same way as M18, without the penetration needed for frontal armour.
 
The AMX-13 is a flanker. This combined with the SS.11 ATGMs on board gives the ability to do two different styles. Either to zoom around (shoot’n’scoot) or stand far back and send missiles flying towards the enemies. In RB though, the missiles are controlled by WASD, making aiming a little bit more difficult. Furthermore, avoid getting shot at '''all cost!''' The armour might save you from 0.50 cals, but 14.5 mm and larger will destroy the vehicle in its entirety. Flanking is a viable option, done in the same way as M18, without the penetration needed for frontal armour.
  
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Initial development of the AMX-13 began after WW2 ended. In 1946, the French army needed a new fighting vehicle to support paratrooper units. This new vehicle needed to be fast and lightweight with a maximum weight of 13 tons.The contract was awarded to the state-owned Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX) company, which was located close to Paris. AMX was able to quickly design the new vehicle and build the first prototypes in just 3 years.After successfully blazing through initial trials, AMX started producing the AMX-13 in the early 1950s. Production continued well into the 1980s as the aging AMX-13 was continually modernized, modified, and upgraded.The AMX-13 SS.11 is a modernized version of the AMX-13 developed during the Cold War. By 1962, the AMX-13’s standard 75mm cannon had become less effective against the armour of contemporary tanks, some of which had begun using composite armour.
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In 1962, the French military high command approved modernization work for the AMX-13 to upgrade and increase the AMX-13’s firepower. However, while increasing firepower was the primary goal, the French high command didn’t want to exceed the AMX-13’s weight. This limited options and ruled out major upgrades, so the engineers decided to mount four SS.11 first generation ATGM launchers to the front of the turret.The changes were incremental but achieved the desired effect. Thanks to the ATGMs, the AMX-13 could now effectively engage targets up to 3km away and penetrate up to 600mm of steel armour—something previously impossible for the 75mm cannon alone.The AMX-13 SS.11 joined the ranks of the French army in the 1960s and continued to serve for well over two decades.
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''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5149-development-amx-13-ss-11-en Devblog]''
  
 
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5149-development-amx-13-ss-11-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> AMX-13 SS.11]
  
 
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Revision as of 21:37, 10 March 2019

RANK 5 FRANCE
Somua SM PACK
AMX-13 (SS.11)
fr_amx_13_75_ss11.png
AMX-13 (SS.11)
France flag.png France
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
6.7 6.7 6.7
Class:
PREMIUM
Purchase:7 480 Specs-Card-Eagle.png
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Description

GarageImage AMX-13 (SS.11).jpg


The AMX-13 (SS.11) is a gift Rank IV French light tank with a battle rating of 6.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". After Update 1.81 "The Valkyries" this vehicle was removed from purchase. Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea" saw the return of this vehicle for 7,480 Golden Eagles.

The AMX-13 (SS.11) only difference from the AMX-13 light tank series is that rack of four deadly SS.11 missiles in the oscillating turret front. Everything else from the two protruding radio antennas to thee four smoke dischargers are quite identical to the original AMX-13 model.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour (Turret base, Turret front)
  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 20 mm (67°) Front glacis
20-40 mm (5-50°) Lower glacis 		20 mm 15 mm Top
15 mm (45°) Bottom 		10 mm
5 mm Engine grille
Turret 40 mm (32-47°) Turret front
40 mm (12-41°) Turret base
40 mm (15-75°) Barrel shroud 		20 mm (0-30°) Turret
20 mm (12-14°) Turret base 		20 mm Turret bustle
20 mm (17-22°) Pivot ball
10 mm (77-90°) Turret underside 		10 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 20 mm 10 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
  • 8 mm Structural steel firewall separates the driver from the engine.
  • The track and wheel on the front glacis offer about 15 mm structural steel thickness.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
15.5 N/A 67 (AB)
60 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 418 515
Realistic/Simulator 239 270
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 26.97 33.22
Realistic/Simulator 15.42 17.42

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: SA50 (75 mm)
75 mm SA50 L/57
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
36 -6°/+13° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 17.9 _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Realistic 17.9 _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
45.0 _.__ _.__ _.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
POT-51A APC 168 163 140 110 95 82
75mm HE HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
PCOT-51P APCBC 180 176 163 150 136 126
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
POT-51A APC 1,000 6.4 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
75mm HE HE 753 6.2 0.4 0.1 675 +0° 79° 80° 81°
PCOT-51P APCBC 1,000 6.4 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMX-13 (SS.11).
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		7th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
36 31 (+5) 27 (+9) 22 (+14) 17 (+19) 12 (+24) 6 (+30) 1 (+35) no

Rack #6 and #7 are ready racks for the autoloader.

Additional armament

164 mm SS-11 ATGM
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Flight
speed (m/s) 		Range (m)
4 N/A 150 6,500

Machine guns

Main article: MAC 31 (7.5 mm)
7.5 mm MAC 31
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
4,950 (150) 1,350 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The AMX-13 is a flanker. This combined with the SS.11 ATGMs on board gives the ability to do two different styles. Either to zoom around (shoot’n’scoot) or stand far back and send missiles flying towards the enemies. In RB though, the missiles are controlled by WASD, making aiming a little bit more difficult. Furthermore, avoid getting shot at all cost! The armour might save you from 0.50 cals, but 14.5 mm and larger will destroy the vehicle in its entirety. Flanking is a viable option, done in the same way as M18, without the penetration needed for frontal armour.

The AMX-13 (SS.11) is exceptionally fast and agile, but sacrifices armour to achieve this. Due to this, it's best to use this tank as either a hit-and-fade flanker or as a standoff sniper, especially with the SS.11 ATGMs onboard.

Try to get around areas that enemy tanks would not typically expect a light tank to be and wait in ambush position for enemy tanks to pass through. Due to being able to get a shot at the sides, the cannon should be used for the first shot, and especially so due to the auto-loading system able to load in rounds in about six seconds. Utilize the SS.11 missiles during these reload times to ensure that the enemy target is annihlated.

As a stand off sniper, don't be anywhere too near the front line where allies and enemies are duking it out. Try to stay around the corner, only peeking out a bit only to hit at an enemy not paying attention with the 75 mm cannon, or precision targeting with the SS.11 missiles. Take care not to hit any allies when firing the missiles from a distance.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Main cannon autoloader with 12 shots ready to go.
  • Nice cannon that will penetrate sides of other vehicles.
  • A total of four (4) SS.11 Missiles ready to go.
  • SS.11 penetrates 600 mm of 90 degrees RHA at any range.
  • SS.11 has a rather small dead zone of about 200 meters, more useful in closer engagements.
  • Mobile enough to flank.
  • AMX-13 low profile allows for easier concealability among terrain.
  • Has great acceleration to get up to speed.
  • Has four smoke dischargers, just in case.

Cons:

  • Cannon may not be reliable enough to penetrate vehicles from the front at this rank.
  • After the turret auto-loader is done, gun will not fire or reload until a ready rack is replenished.
  • Auto-loader means loaded rounds are homogeneous and lacking in flexibility, loading HE will offer 12 HE rounds only.
  • SS.11 still has a dead zone that makes it unusable in point-blank engagements.
  • Missiles are aimed with WASD movement keys, tank must be stopped when guiding missile to target (RB/SB).
  • Missile racks cover up a portion of the sight from the tank gunner's persepctive.
  • Non-existent armour, but will protect against the .50 cal M2.
  • Aerial strafing may penetrate through the roof armour
  • HESH (High Explosive Squash Head) and HE obliterates this vehicle.
  • SPAA can and will obliterate the AMX-13.
  • Three crew members in a cramped tank means easy one-hit kills and inability to take a loss without dip in combat efficiency.
  • Top speed is rather poor for a light tank.
  • Smoke discharger fire all at once, player will have to make the most of that one screen.

History

Initial development of the AMX-13 began after WW2 ended. In 1946, the French army needed a new fighting vehicle to support paratrooper units. This new vehicle needed to be fast and lightweight with a maximum weight of 13 tons.The contract was awarded to the state-owned Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux (AMX) company, which was located close to Paris. AMX was able to quickly design the new vehicle and build the first prototypes in just 3 years.After successfully blazing through initial trials, AMX started producing the AMX-13 in the early 1950s. Production continued well into the 1980s as the aging AMX-13 was continually modernized, modified, and upgraded.The AMX-13 SS.11 is a modernized version of the AMX-13 developed during the Cold War. By 1962, the AMX-13’s standard 75mm cannon had become less effective against the armour of contemporary tanks, some of which had begun using composite armour.

In 1962, the French military high command approved modernization work for the AMX-13 to upgrade and increase the AMX-13’s firepower. However, while increasing firepower was the primary goal, the French high command didn’t want to exceed the AMX-13’s weight. This limited options and ruled out major upgrades, so the engineers decided to mount four SS.11 first generation ATGM launchers to the front of the turret.The changes were incremental but achieved the desired effect. Thanks to the ATGMs, the AMX-13 could now effectively engage targets up to 3km away and penetrate up to 600mm of steel armour—something previously impossible for the 75mm cannon alone.The AMX-13 SS.11 joined the ranks of the French army in the 1960s and continued to serve for well over two decades. ' - From Devblog

Media

Premium Vehicles - AMX-13 SS.11

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France light tanks
AMC.34/35  AMC.34 YR · AMC.35 (ACG.1)
H.35/39  H.35 · H.39 · H.39 "Cambronne"
AMX-13  AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT)
Wheeled  AML-90 · AMX-10RC · Vextra 105
AMD.35  AMD.35 · AMD.35 (SA35)
E.B.R.  E.B.R. (1951) · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963)
Other  FCM.36 · R.35 (SA38) · Char 25t · MARS 15 · VBCI-2 (MCT30)
Austria  SK-105A2
Great Britain  ▄Crusader Mk.II
Netherlands  CV 9035NL
USA  LVT-4/40 · ▄M3A3 Stuart

France premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30)
Medium tanks  M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930)
Heavy tanks  B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 155 Mle.50

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