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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''Saab 105OE''' was an improved version of the Saab 105XT export demonstrator prototype designed for the Austrian Air Force, which itself was an improved version of the [[SK60B|Sk 60B]] with General Electric J85 turbojets instead of the Turbomeca Aubisque used in the Sk 60. The first Austrian Saab 105OE was delivered in July 1970 where they replaced the Saab 29 Tunnan and de Havilland Vampire. Austria received 40 aircraft in total, and they were finally retired after 50 years of service on 31st December 2020.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet attacker {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].
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Introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]], the Saab 105OE is a variant of the Saab 105G found in the Swedish tech tree, though representing its service with the Austrian Air Force. The main difference between the two aircraft however is the modified wing found on the 105G, as well as a slightly more powerful variant of the GE J85 engines. Unlike the Saab 105G, the Austrian version also does not have access to any bombs, this is offset by the ability to mount Rb05A missiles. This ability is missing on the Saab 105G. In terms of flying characteristics, the plane is quite manoeuvrable, although not very fast with poor acceleration due to its turbofan engines.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 1,000 m)
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! Stock
 
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| 958 || 947 || 25.7 || 26.0 || 57.5 || 46.0
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 387 || 350 || ~8 || ~4
 
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| < 550 || < 650 || < 550 || N/A
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==== Engine performance ====
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! colspan="5" | Aircraft mass
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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| colspan="2" | General Electric J85-GE-17B || 2
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| colspan="2" | 3,282 kg || colspan="3" | 298 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 36m fuel
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| 181 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
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| 3,753 kg || 4,144 kg || 4,575 kg || 4,852 kg || 6,500 kg
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
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! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 36m fuel || MTOW
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| ''Stationary'' || 1,220 kgf || N/A
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| 0.65 || 0.59 || 0.53 || 0.50 || 0.38
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| ''Optimal'' || 1,220 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A
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| 0.65 || 0.59 || 0.53 || 0.50 || 0.38
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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There is no armour on the SAAB-105ÖE; the internal modules of the aircraft are fairly spaced out with engines far apart in the rear fuselage and fuel tanks taking up all of the wings and a portion of the forward fuselage.
 
There is no armour on the SAAB-105ÖE; the internal modules of the aircraft are fairly spaced out with engines far apart in the rear fuselage and fuel tanks taking up all of the wings and a portion of the forward fuselage.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{Specs-Economy}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
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{{main|RB24|Rb05A|m/56D|psrak m/49A|srak m/55 Frida}}
 
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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! [[Akan m/55 (30 mm)|30 mm Akan m/55]] cannons (150 rpg)
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! [[m/56D]] rockets
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| 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2
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! [[psrak m/49/56]] rockets
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! [[srak m/55 Frida]] rockets
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! [[RB24]] missiles
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{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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* 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, wing-mounted (gunpods) (150 rpg = 300 total)
 
* 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, wing-mounted (gunpods) (150 rpg = 300 total)
 
* 22 x srak m/55 Frida rockets
 
* 22 x srak m/55 Frida rockets
 
* 12 x m/56D rockets
 
* 12 x m/56D rockets
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* 6 x psrak m/49A rockets
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* 6 x psrak m/49/56 rockets
 
* 2 x Rb05A missiles
 
* 2 x Rb05A missiles
 
* 2 x RB24 missiles
 
* 2 x RB24 missiles
 
* 2 x RB24 missiles + 2 x Rb05A missiles
 
* 2 x RB24 missiles + 2 x Rb05A missiles
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* 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons (150 rpg = 300 total) + 2 x RB24 missiles
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* 2 x RB24 missiles + 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons
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{{Navigation-End}}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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|G-suit
 
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|Cover
 
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|New 30 mm cannons
 
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|Rb05A
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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* Can carry both cannon pods and [[RB24]] missiles, or [[Rb05A]] missiles and RB24 missiles at the same time
 
* Can carry both cannon pods and [[RB24]] missiles, or [[Rb05A]] missiles and RB24 missiles at the same time
 
* Has an attacker airspawn
 
* Has an attacker airspawn
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* Decent survivability, has two pilots and can take damage fairly well  
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* Decent survivability, has two pilots and can take damage fairly well
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Not as fast as other jets
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* Fairly poor acceleration
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* Does not turn very well
 
* No armour and exposed pilots
 
* No armour and exposed pilots
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* Fairly poor acceleration
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* No integrated offensive armament, requiring gunpods
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=saab_105oe Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  
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{{Sweden premium aircraft}}

Latest revision as of 18:32, 29 April 2024

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
A-10A Thunderbolt (Early)
This page is about the Swedish strike aircraft SAAB-105OE. For other versions, see SAAB-105 (Family).
SAAB-105OE
saab_105oe.png
GarageImage SAAB-105OE.jpg
SAAB-105OE
Sweden flag.png Sweden
V Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
8.3 8.3 8.3
Class:
PREMIUM
Purchase:8 560 Specs-Card-Eagle.png
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Description

The Saab 105OE was an improved version of the Saab 105XT export demonstrator prototype designed for the Austrian Air Force, which itself was an improved version of the Sk 60B with General Electric J85 turbojets instead of the Turbomeca Aubisque used in the Sk 60. The first Austrian Saab 105OE was delivered in July 1970 where they replaced the Saab 29 Tunnan and de Havilland Vampire. Austria received 40 aircraft in total, and they were finally retired after 50 years of service on 31st December 2020.

Introduced in Update "Hot Tracks", the Saab 105OE is a variant of the Saab 105G found in the Swedish tech tree, though representing its service with the Austrian Air Force. The main difference between the two aircraft however is the modified wing found on the 105G, as well as a slightly more powerful variant of the GE J85 engines. Unlike the Saab 105G, the Austrian version also does not have access to any bombs, this is offset by the ability to mount Rb05A missiles. This ability is missing on the Saab 105G. In terms of flying characteristics, the plane is quite manoeuvrable, although not very fast with poor acceleration due to its turbofan engines.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 1 000 m947 km/h
Turn time26 s
Max altitude10 668 m
Engine2 х General Electric J85-GE-17B
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight7 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 1,000 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 936 929 10668 26.3 26.9 35.8 32.3 850
Upgraded 958 947 25.7 26.0 57.5 46.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X ✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1050 400 N/A 387 350 ~8 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 550 < 650 < 550 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J85-GE-17B 2 3,282 kg 298 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 36m fuel
181 kg Axial-flow turbojet 3,753 kg 4,144 kg 4,575 kg 4,852 kg 6,500 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 36m fuel MTOW
Stationary 1,220 kgf N/A 0.65 0.59 0.53 0.50 0.38
Optimal 1,220 kgf
(0 km/h) 		N/A 0.65 0.59 0.53 0.50 0.38

Survivability and armour

Crew2 people
Speed of destruction
Structural1 050 km/h
Gear400 km/h

There is no armour on the SAAB-105ÖE; the internal modules of the aircraft are fairly spaced out with engines far apart in the rear fuselage and fuel tanks taking up all of the wings and a portion of the forward fuselage.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB2 204 Sl icon.png
RB5 913 Sl icon.png
SB7 642 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts550 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 600 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 110 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 208 / 208 / 208 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Mods pilon rocket.png
m/55
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
aden_belt_pack
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
M/49/56
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
RB24
Mods pilon rocket.png
m/56d
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
aden_new_gun
Mods agm missile.png
Rb05A

Armaments

Suspended armament

The SAAB-105OE can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3 4 5 6
Hardpoints SK60B.png
30 mm Akan m/55 cannons (150 rpg) 1 1
m/56D rockets 2 2 2 2 2 2
psrak m/49/56 rockets 1 1 1 1 1 1
srak m/55 Frida rockets 3 4 4 4 4 3
RB24 missiles 1 1
Rb05A missiles 1 1
Default weapon presets
  • 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, wing-mounted (gunpods) (150 rpg = 300 total)
  • 22 x srak m/55 Frida rockets
  • 12 x m/56D rockets
  • 6 x psrak m/49/56 rockets
  • 2 x Rb05A missiles
  • 2 x RB24 missiles
  • 2 x RB24 missiles + 2 x Rb05A missiles
  • 2 x RB24 missiles + 2 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Extremely powerful weaponry
  • Can carry both cannon pods and RB24 missiles, or Rb05A missiles and RB24 missiles at the same time
  • Has an attacker airspawn
  • Decent survivability, has two pilots and can take damage fairly well

Cons:

  • Fairly poor acceleration
  • Does not turn very well
  • No armour and exposed pilots
  • No integrated offensive armament, requiring gunpods

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins

See also

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Swedish Aeroplane Company Ltd. (SAAB)
  Pre-SAAB: SA / ASJA
SA 'Jaktfalken'  J6B
SAAB 17  B17A · B17B · S17BS
SAAB 18  B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57)
SAAB 21  J21A-1 · J21A-2 · A21A-3 · J21RA · A21RB
SAAB 29 'Tunnan'  J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F
SAAB 32 'Lansen'  J32B · A32A · A32A Röd Adam
SAAB 35 'Draken'  J35A · J35D
SAAB 37 'Viggen'  JA37C · JA37D · JA37DI · JA37DI F21 · AJ37 · AJS37
SAAB 39 'Gripen'  JAS39A · JAS39C
SAAB 105  SK60B · SAAB-105G
License Production  B3C (Ju 86K)
Export  SAAB-105OE · J35XS · ▄JAS39C · ◔JAS39EBS HU C

Sweden jet aircraft
Fighters  J21RA
  J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F
  J32B
  J34
  J35A · J35D
  JA37C · JA37D · JA37DI · JA37DI F21
  JAS39A · JAS39C
Strike aircraft  A21RB
  A32A · A32A Röd Adam
  A28B
  AJ37 · AJS37
  SK60B · SAAB-105G
Export  SAAB-105OE
Finland  ▄Vampire FB 52A · ▄MiG-21bis · Saab J35XS

Sweden premium aircraft
Fighters  Iacobi's J8A · ▄Fokker D.XXI · Mörkö-Morane · VL Myrsky II · J9 Early · J26 David · VL Pyörremyrsky · ▄Bf 109 G-6
Jet fighters  J29D · J35A · Saab J35XS · JA37DI F21
Strike aircraft  SAAB-105OE · A32A Röd Adam
Bomber  ▄Ar 196 A-5

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