Mirage 4000

Mirage 4000

▄F-8E(FN)

Mirage 4000

▄F-8E(FN)

France

VIII Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
12.7	13.0	13.0

Class:

Fighter

Jet fighter

Research:400 000

Purchase:1 080 000

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Description

During the 1970s, after the French evaluation of the F-15A fell through, Dassault took part in a private venture to build a "heavy fighter-interceptor" of similar magnitude as the F-15, primarily for the French Air Force and export to close French allies. By the end of the decade, they had completed the Mirage 4000, which at first glance appeared to be a scaled-up Mirage 2000 with canards and double the engines. The Mirage 4000 however was more than meets the eye, being armed with a large amount of air-to-air missiles for its interception role, and with powerful SNECMA M53 engines to give it unrivaled thrust for its time, the Mirage 4000 was better than the early F-15As in most ways. However, the French Air Force found the aircraft too expensive to field and decided to pursue further upgrades of the Mirage 2000 instead. As for the export customers, most either bought the F-15A instead due to political pressure, or in the case of Iran, had a revolution which severed the alliance with France and prevented them from buying the Mirage 4000. In the end, only one Mirage 4000 was built, which made 300+ test flights and airshow demonstrations, before being moved to its final resting place at the Musée de l'air et de l'espace (Paris Air and Space Museum) in November 1992. Much of the technology and experience gained from the Mirage 4000 would be used in the Dassault Rafale shortly after.

Introduced in Update "Air Superiority", the Mirage 4000 is a direct development of the older Mirage 2000, and the ultimate culmination of the Mirage family. The aircraft can serve a true multipurpose role, having incredible dogfighting performance and up to 8 x R.550 Magic 2 all-aspect missiles for close-in dogfighting, up to four Super 530D missiles and a powerful radar for BVR combat, and even the ATLIS targeting pod and a respectable amount of laser-guided bombs and AGMs for heavy CAS duty. All in all, the Mirage 4000 serves as a true reward at the end of the French ranks, building upon the playstyles learned from the previous Mirage 2000s and the F-8E (FN).

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 12 000 m2 318 km/h

Turn time23 s

Max altitude16 000 m

Engine2 х SNECMA M53-P2

TypeJet

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight63 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics	Max speed (km/h at 12,000 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	2,224	2,174	16000	23.9	24.8	229.0	216.9	750
Upgraded	2,410	2,318		23.3	23.5	325.2	275.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
X	X	X	✓	X	✓

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
1,560	426	-	-	-	~14	~__

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 920	< 750	< 650	-

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Basic mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA M53-P2		2	13,000 kg		303 kg/m2
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)				Max Gross Weight
Weight (each)	Type		13m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	40m fuel
1,515 kg	Afterburning low-bypass turbofan		15,640 kg	17,343 kg	19,515 kg	21,800 kg	31,854 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition	100%	WEP	13m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	40m fuel	MGW
Stationary	6,250 kgf	9,745 kgf	1.25	1.12	1.00	0.89	0.61
Optimal	7,194 kgf (1,555 km/h)	13,713 kgf (1,555 km/h)	1.75	1.58	1.41	1.26	0.86

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff

Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear426 km/h

Just like most other top rank jets, it is very vulnerable to gunfire and missiles alike, meaning it is most important to avoid getting hit at all in the first place. An upside however is that it can stay in the air even with just one engine left and the large airframe makes hits to non-critical components more likely than with tight packed aircraft like the F-16 series for example. Keep in mind that even hits that don't outright destroy you will still make a very noticeable impact on maximum speed and flight performance, rendering a retreat to the airfield the best option in many cases.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB3 029 → 4 392

RB8 752 → 12 690

SB10 322 → 14 966

Total cost of modifications309 000

469 000

Talisman cost3 100

Crew training310 000

Experts1 080 000

Aces3 400

Research Aces1 280 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

90 / 320 / 490 %

250 / 250 / 250 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Compressor Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 New boosters Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 Engine Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 620	Fuselage repair Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 Airframe Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 Wings repair Research: 15 000 Cost: 23 000 550 Cover Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 620	Flares/Chaff Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 aden_belt_pack Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 Matra JL-100R Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 G-suit Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 Type 25C Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 ATLIS II Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 Matra R550 Magic 2 Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 440 aden_new_gun Research: 15 000 Cost: 23 000 550 Mk83 Research: 15 000 Cost: 23 000 550 AS30L Research: 15 000 Cost: 23 000 550 Matra 530F Research: 15 000 Cost: 23 000 550 EFS Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 620 Mk84 Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 620 BGL-1000 Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 620 Matra 530D Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 620

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns)	CCIP (Rockets)	CCIP (Bombs)	CCRP (Bombs)	Lead indicator

Offensive armament

The Mirage 4000 is armed with:

• 2 x 30 mm DEFA 554 cannons, wing root-mounted (125 rpg = 250 total)

Suspended armament

The Mirage 4000 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs		1	1	1	1	9	1	1	1	1
250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs		1	1	1	1	9	1	1	1	1
1,000 lb SAMP Mk 83 bombs		1	1			2			1	1
2,000 lb SAMP Mk 84 bombs		1	1			2			1	1
970 kg BGL-1000 bombs						2†
SNEB type 23 rockets		18	18						18	18
AS-30L Nord missiles		1†	1†						1†	1†
Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles	1	1	1, 2*						1, 2*	1	1
Matra Super 530D missiles		1	1						1	1
Matra Super 530F missiles		1	1						1	1
Large calibre countermeasures				56				56
ATLIS II targeting pod							1†
500 l drop tanks			1*						1*
2,500 l drop tanks			1						1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 1,500 kg
* 500 litre drop tanks can only be equipped with dual Magic 2 missiles on the same hardpoint † ATLIS II pod must be equipped when equipping guided air-to-ground ordnance

Default weapon presets

2 x 2,500 l drop tanks 2 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles 6 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles 8 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles 8 x Matra R550 Magic 2 missiles + 2 x 500 l drop tanks 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets 4 x AS-30L Nord missiles 4 x Matra Super 530F missiles 4 x Matra Super 530D missiles 17 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (4,250 kg total) 17 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs (4,250 kg total) 6 x 1,000 lb SAMP Mk 83 bombs (6,000 lb total) 6 x 2,000 lb SAMP Mk 84 bombs (12,000 lb total) 2 x 970 kg BGL-1000 bombs (1,940 kg total) 112 x large calibre countermeasures

Usage in battles

The "Super Mirage" is certainly an interesting plane. It is the bigger and stronger brother of the Mirage 2000, that might not have as many aces up its sleeve compared to the Mirage 2000-5F with its HMD and PD radar, but it more than makes up for it thrust, armament and agility.

While the Mirage 4000 is a heavier and therefore less manoeuvrable plane than the Mirage 2000, the addition of the canards and the extra power of the engines make it one of the best turning jets in-game, falling behind only the F-16A in raw manoeuvrability. It however remains a plane that is almost twice as heavy as its little brother, meaning that while it has great thrust, great turning capability and does not lose speed as fast as a Mirage 2000, you will feel that it is way less responsive, especially at lower speeds.

Overall, the Mirage 4000 is like having 2 Mirage 2000s glued together: twice the weight, twice the engine power, twice the missiles, twice the carrying capacity.

Air Realistic Battles,

The Mirage 4000 can be used in multiple roles, Including being a missile bus, Support aircraft and even somewhat of a dogfighter. The best way to use the Mirage 4000 in Air RB is to use your high speed to get into a flanking position possibly bombing one base and then firing missiles at unsuspecting enemies. Afterwards, there are multiple possibilities. Either getting away in order to reposition and gain energy, or going straight into the "furball". Both options are possible due to the Mirage's Superior speed, Thrust, Energy retention and agility. The Mirage 4000 is a jack of all trades, being able to fill any role, but not being the best at any of them. You should always keep a good awareness of your surroundings and keep your energy up. Do not get stuck in extended turn fights.

The Mirage 4000 is as fuel efficient as the Mirage 2000, meaning that 20 minutes is enough if you do not afterburn all the way to the battle. Packing 30 minutes fuel ensures you better endurance, while 40 minutes fuel can extend your endurance further. The Mirage 4000 has multiple options of fuel tanks: either 2 x large drop tanks, with around 20 minutes of fuel; or 2 x smaller fuel tanks, carrying around 4 minutes of fuel can also be installed. These fuel tanks cannot be dropped, they are installed on the innermost armament pylons, but can however hold 2 x Magic II missiles each. In practice, this means that if you wish to take 8 x missiles, you have to take these fuel tanks, which make the plane slightly heavier. If you wish to take 4 x Super 530Ds, You will be limiting yourself to 6 x missiles. The most well rounded loadout for the Mirage 4000 would be the 2 x small fuel tanks, each carrying 2 x Matra Magic II Missiles, 2 x Super 530Ds along with the outer-most pylon Magic IIs, bringing you to a total of 6 x IR missiles and 2 x radar missiles. A payload of 11 x 250 kg bombs can be taken on the pylons under the fuselage, letting you destroy one base.

Ground Realistic Battles

The Mirage 4000 is a very scary plane. It can carry a good amount of ordnance. While the ordnance is not fire-and-forget, it packs a punch. A big downside is that the Mirage 4000 only gets access to an ALTIS II targetting pod, which does not have any thermal capability. In practice, this means that the Mirage 4000 is useless at ground pounding if the weather conditions are cloudy, foggy or in low light conditions. Spotting targets is also harder, however the zoom of the ALTIS II is better than on the DAMOCLES targetting pod of the Mirage 2000-5F. The Most effective loadout for Ground RB is 4 x AS-30L missiles, which are very lethal with a direct hit, and 2 x BGL-1000 laser-guided bombs. The first thing you should do after spawning in is searching for enemy SPAA. If you have not identified SPAA in around 5 seconds after spawning in, you should dive and put distance, objects or terrain between you and the battlefield as soon as possible, in order to avoid any possible missiles coming at you. Do keep in mind that a missile can be guided to you even if no one is hard locking you. SPAAs at this tier have IRST and even TWS, making it especially hard to know a missile is fired at you unless you clearly see the launch. When the threat (SPAA) is eliminated, you can finally start getting close and destroying ground targets. You should constantly keep your eyes on the RWR in case any plane spawns in. Try not to turn a lot. The Mirage 4000 becomes very vulnerable once it lost all of its speed. You should do passes and bombing runs rather than staying right above the battlefield and dropping ordnance.

Overall, the Super Mirage is a truly capable multirole aircraft, that is more than capable at dealing with any situation one might throw at it. This however does not mean that the plane is clearly superior to anything else it might fight, quite the opposite. It just lets the pilot do some things other planes do not. It can be a scary and formidable foe to fight against.

It is a plane with which you can play in your own playstyle, rather than forcing you into a playstyle of its own.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Excellent flight performance in all situations
• Magic 2 missiles are very effective and it carries up to 8 of them
• Has access to Super 530D radar missiles
• Wide variety of air-to-ground weapons, like various (guided) bombs, guided missiles and rockets

Cons:

• Super 530D missiles lag behind contemporaries like R-27ER and AIM-7M at short range
• Easy to bleed speed in extended turns, at which point it becomes vulnerable to faster foes
• Lack of an HMD

History

In 1970, France, which was already a well recognized aircraft manufacturer, decided to develop 4th gen fighters. The project led to the Mirage 2000, which was an incredible success, and the Mirage-4000. Most Majors of the French Airfare wanted a polyvalent twin-jet. The Super Mirage was at first designed to be a successor to the Mirage IV nuclear bomber, launched on the personal initiative of Marcel Dassault, the Super Mirage 4000 is the last European combat aircraft financed with its manufacturer's own funds. It was designed to have a similar size has the Sukhoi Su-27 or the McDonnell Douglas F-15.

Dassault-Breguet used knowledge gained from the Mirage-F2 to create the Super-Mirage. After that the French Majors abandoned the idea of it being a fighter-bomber, it was designed to be a fighter, more maneuverable than the F-15. The F-15 prototypes had an angle of incidence of 19° while the Mirage 4000 had one of a whopping 26°, and the F-15 had a Max G-Forces limit of 7g, but the Mirage had one of 9g+. It is mostly composed of composite material , to make it has light has possible, and it could hold 3 times more fuel than it's little brother. The Super Mirage's engines were picked from the Mirage 2000 project, it was basically a Mirage 2000, but bigger, hence the name.

The Super Mirage 4000 had its first flight the 9th of March in 1979, with its test pilot : Jean-Marie Saget. From it's sixth flight, it reached Mach-2, for comparaison, the Mirage 2000 can go Mach 2.2, and it's weight is 10,200kg, meanwhile, the Mirage 4000 weight 18,800kg and can go 105kph faster. (2 340 km/h for the Mirage 2000 and 2 445 km/h for the Super Mirage). It had an amazing climb rate, has it could go up to 50 000fts in 3m50.

We do not know what it's weaponry could have been, has Gaijin made suppositions on what would the Mirage 4000 have, but from the information we have, is that it had 11 hard points, It but not all for missiles, and that it could carry the radar pod "Antilope V", Matra R550 Magic 2s and Matra Super 530Ds.

The King of Saudi Arabia "Khaled ben Abdelaziz Al Saoud", the Shah of Iran "Mohammad Reza Chah Pahlavi" and the Iraqi government were interested in the project. After long discussions with Saudia Arabia and Iran, it has not been able to be concluded. Sources suspect that Irak wanted it has a "budget" F-15, has French aircrafts have usually the best quality/price ratio for Irak and similar nations. It was a logical choice for Irak has it had already the Mirage F1.

The majors of the French Air Force didn't want to industrialize the Super Mirage, the expected 5 Mirage 4000 were canceled because of lost of funds. Since it wasn't ordered, it couldn't be exported, leading to failure. In December 1977, the Air Force asked the Aeronautical Construction Directorate of the Ministry of Defense to conduct a review of a tactical combat aircraft (ACT in French, and TCA in English), intended to succeed the Jaguars. Dassault-Breguet then began studying the ACX/Rafale.

The Super Mirage 4000 made a whopping 336 test-flights, the last one was the 8th of January 1988. The Super Mirage was delivered to the Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace du Bourget in a "desert" livery. In 2002 The association "IT Mercure" repainted it back in it's iconic livery, the one currently used in War Thunder

Media

Skins

• Skins and camouflages for the Mirage 4000 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

The Shooting Range #392 - Metal Beasts section at 00:25 discusses the Mirage 4000.

The Shooting Range #390 - Arsenal section at 07:08 discusses the Mirage 4000.

Dassault Family / War Thunder - Talks about all of Marcel Dassault's planes in Warthunder. Doesn't talk about Mirage-4000 but all other Mirages (helps understanding)

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

• Matra R550 Magic 2
• Category:France aircraft

External links

Sources for the "History" article

• The Bourget's website - https://www.museeairespace.fr/aller-plus-haut/collections/dassault-super-mirage-4000/
• IT Mercure's website - https://itmercurelebourget.wordpress.com/
• Dassault's Official website - https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/mirage-4000/
• French Wikipedia - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_4000
• Alexis Rocher's book "Super Mirage 4000 : Le rêve inachevé" - https://www.skyshelf.eu/products/rocher-alexis-super-mirage-4000-edition-numerique
• France's archives - https://francearchives.gouv.fr/fr

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Fighters	M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Bombers	M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T
Jet Aircraft
M.D 450	M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystère	M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA
Super Mystère	Super Mystere B2
Étendard	Etendard IVM
Super Étendard	Super Etendard
Alpha Jet	Alpha Jet E**
Mirage
Mirage III	Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan
Mirage V	Mirage 5F
Mirage F1	Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Mirage 2000	Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV
Mirage 4000	Mirage 4000
Export
M.D 450	M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystere	Mystere IVA
Super Mystère	Sambad · Sa'ar***
Mirage	Shahak · ▄Mirage 5BA · ␗Mirage 2000-5Ei
	*The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947
	**Jointly manufactured with Dornier Flugzeugwerke
	***Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine
See also	SABCA