Lorraine 155 Mle.50

Lorraine 155 Mle.50

Lorraine 155 Mle.50

France

III Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
4.3	4.3	4.3

Class:

PREMIUM

Tank destroyer

Purchase:Bundle or Gift

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Description

The Lorraine automoteur de 155 mm modèle 1950 (shortened as Lorraine 155 Mle.50) is a premium gift rank III French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" as a reward during the 2018 WW2 Chronicles.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back

Hull16 / 16 / 10

Turret16 / 16 / 10

Crew6 people

Visibility133 %

The Lorraine 155 Mle.50 has very little armour (although some are sloped enough to deflect certain low-calibre rounds), and can generally be penetrated by most guns of its rank. Even worse, however, the 'casemate' (if it can even be called that) has very little armour, and in some places can be shot through with machine guns. The machine-gunner (operating the 20 mm gun) is completely standing in the open. Generally, you want to rely on good map placement and mobility, rather than armour.

Armour type:

• Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, superstructure)
• Wheel (tires)
• Structural steel (gun mount, gun breech, mudguards)

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	16 mm (70°) Upper glacis - Top 16 mm (60°) Upper glacis - Bottom 16 mm (cylindrical) Transmission housing 16 mm (73°) Lower glacis - Centre 20 mm (31°) Lower glacis - Sides	16 mm	10 mm Upper plate 10 mm (42°) Lower glacis	16 mm (20°) Front glacis 10 mm Centre & Rear 10+10 mm Radiator vent covers
Superstructure	16 mm (21°) Front glacis 10 mm (cylindrical) Gun shield	16 mm (30°) 16 mm (21-48°) Left ammo rack bulge	10 mm Sides	10 mm
Cupola	N/A	10 mm (cylindrical)		N/A

Notes:

• Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick.
• Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
• Gun breech is 150 mm thick, while the barrel itself is 25 mm.
• Gun carriage around the gun is 20 mm thick, while the gun mount/traverse device is 40 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back

AB60 / 8 km/h

RB and SB55 / 8 km/h

Number of gears5 forward

1 back

Weight30.0 t

Engine power

AB1 145 hp

RB and SB600 hp

Power-to-weight ratio

AB38.2 hp/t

RB and SB20.0 hp/t

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
	Forward	Reverse		Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	60	8	30	852	1,145	28.4	38.17
Realistic	55	8		531	600	17.7	20

Modifications and economy

Repair cost

AB835

RB1 033

SB1 309

Crew training10 000

Experts165 000

Aces470

Research Aces710 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

2 × 90 / 130 / 170 %

2 × 148 / 148 / 148 %

Modifications

Mobility	Protection	Firepower
Tracks Suspension Brake System Filters Transmission Engine	Improved Parts Improved FPE Crew Replenishment	Horizontal Drive 155mm_M110_Smoke_ammo_pack Adjustment of Fire Elevation Mechanism

Armaments

Main armament

155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer

Ammunition30 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

26.0 → 20.0 s

Vertical guidance-5° / 67°

Horizontal guidance-20° / 20°

155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950					Turret rotation speed (°/s)					Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode	Capacity	Vertical	Horizontal	Stabilizer	Stock	Upgraded	Full	Expert	Aced	Stock	Full	Expert	Aced
Arcade	30	-5°/+67°	±20°	N/A	5.3	7.3	8.9	9.8	10.5	26.00	23.00	21.20	20.00
Realistic					3.6	4.2	5.1	5.6	6.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
M107	HE	61	61	61	61	61	61

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (kg)	Ricochet
							0%	50%	100%
M107	HE	563	43.1	0.3	0.1	9.14	79°	80°	81°

Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Screen radius (m)	Screen deploy time (s)	Screen hold time (s)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
M110	563	40.8	21	5	30	50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	5th rack empty	6th rack empty	7th rack empty	8th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
30	29 (+1)	27 (+3)	23 (+7)	18 (+12)	15 (+15)	9 (+21)	6 (+24)	1 (+29)	Yes

Notes:

• Projectiles and propellant charges are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
• The visual discrepancy concerns the total number of shells as well as the number of shells per rack:
  • 28 shells are modeled but you can pack 30 shells.
  • Rack 8 is modeled as 3 shells but contains 5 shells.
• Recommended loadout: 9 (+21) shells. It keeps most ammunition in the floor and out of sponsons.

Machine guns

20 mm MG151/20 cannon

Ammunition500 rounds

Belt capacity250 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

13.0 → 10.0 s

Fire rate701 shots/min

Vertical guidance-8° / 45°

20 mm MG 151
Mount	Capacity (Belt)	Fire rate	Vertical	Horizontal
Roof cupola	500 (250)	701	-8°/+45°	±180°

The roof-mounted MG 151 autocannon is very good at knocking out tracks, punching through lightly armoured vehicles and shooting down low-flying aircraft. Use it sparsely because of its low ammo count. When losing a crew member, the machine gunner is used to replace other crew members, meaning that you can't use the 20 mm cannon anymore.

Usage in battles

The best method of using the large-calibre weapon on the Lorraine is to exploit the high-explosive power against thin-armour on the enemy. Like other large calibre HE tanks, shooting below an enemy vehicle will penetrate its belly armour. This is an effective, albeit difficult way to engage tanks whose armour is greater than what your HE shell can penetrate.

Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points:

• Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armour on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done.
• Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to penetrate the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Powerful 155 mm gun with a HE shell on-par with the KV-2's gun
• Pintle-mounted 20 mm cannon that is deadly to lightly-armoured vehicles and aircraft
• Decent mobility
• Good reverse speed

Cons:

• Thin armour with an open casemate, allows even rifle-calibre rounds to affect the crew
• Despite thin armour, it's thick enough to trigger most fuses in APHE shells
• Large profile
• Long reload time; increases if the loader is taken out
• If the machine-gunner is knocked out, so is the ability to use the 20 mm cannon
• No AP shells, only HE shells
• Bad gun depression of 5°

History

Prototypes of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 passed trials in 1950, but never reached production.

Media

Skins

• Skin and Camouflages for the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

High-explosive power discusses the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 at 0:50 - War Thunder Official Channel

The Shooting Range #96 - Metal Beasts section at 00:39 discusses the Lorraine 155 Mle.50.

Lorraine 155 Mle.50 - Absolute unit - Oxy

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis

• CA Lorraine

Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

• Brummbär
• ▀KW II 754 (r)
• KV-2 (1939) / KV-2 (1940)

External links

• [Wikipedia] Lorraine 155 mm

Lorraine
Tanks
Medium tanks	Lorraine 40t
Tank destroyers	Lorraine 37L · CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives	CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM	MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other	AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA	▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2