CA Lorraine

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Canon d'assaut Lorraine de 100 mm
fr_lorraine_100.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
6.3/6.3/6.3BR
5 peopleCrew
front / side / backArmour
50 / 30 / 25Hull
50 / 30 / 25Turret
Mobility
25.0 tWeight
67 km/h forward
17 km/h back
62 km/h forward
16 km/h back
Speed
Armament
100 mm SA47 L/58 cannonMain weapon
40 roundsAmmunition
-6° / 16°Vertical guidance
-9° / 9°Horizontal guidance
Economy
71 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
210 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png5 800 / 7 238/3 820 / 4 767/1 530 / 1 909Repair
61 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
210 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
890 Ge icon.pngAces
× (178) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
× 1.8 Sl icon.png× 1.5 Sl icon.png× 1.0 Sl icon.png

Description

GarageImage CA Lorraine.jpg


The Canon d'assaut Lorraine de 100 mm (100 mm Lorraine assault gun), or abbreviated CA Lorraine, is a Rank IV French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". It presents a very classic TD design: Casemate gun platform and powerful armament. While lacking in terms of armour, it compensates with both excellent mobility and a very strong gun.

The CA Lorraine is an intermediate between a SU-85 and a lowered Jagdpanther. It is distinguishable for having rubber road wheels instead of metal ones, two huge fans atop the engine deck (much like the German Jagdpanther), a very pointy gun mantlet pointing outwards from the casemate and quite a large, rounded commander's cupola. In some ways, it is quite similar to the fearsome AMX 50 Foch, and this can scare away some cowardly foes.

General info

Survivability and armour

Its sloped, medium thickness frontal armour will not protect you from anything bigger than SPAA shots (some may even get through in close quarters) but it is certainly sufficient for what it is designed to do: protecting from stray bullets in long range engagements. Side and top armour are also quite weak, so don't expect to survive any kind of surprise coming from side or top. Still, this tank has 5 crew members, which can often save it from a (too) quick destruction.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Casemate hull)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Driver's hatch)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 50 mm (55°) Front glacis
35 mm (60°) Lower glacis
60-150 (0-88°) + 35-60 mm (2-88°) Gun mantlet
30 mm (15°) Front
30 mm Bottom
25 mm (23°) Top
25 mm (55°) Bottom
20 mm
8 mm Engine grille
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 50 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.

Mobility

If anyone thought the Lorraine 40t was a sprinter, this is even better. The CA Lorraine is fast. Not only in forward motion is it fast, it can retreat at a decent, constant, -16 km/h and it has ability to neutral steer, these enable fast reaction to quickly changing battlefield odds such as flanking maneuvers or enemy breakthrough. An experienced player can take clear advantage over its foes by achieving good placement and this tank is the perfect tool for this task.

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
25.0 N/A 68 (AB)
62 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 973 _,___
Realistic/Simulator 606 685
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38.92 __.__
Realistic/Simulator 24.24 27.40

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: SA47 L/58 (100 mm)

This gun platform uses the usual French rank IV 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon with a twist: it has no autoloader mechanism, hence making reload time twice as long. However, at battle rating 6.3, the gun packs an awesome 300 mm of penetration that ensures it can punch well above its own rank. The large shell caliber also means it can create quite a lot of fragments inside a tank, making the lack of explosive filler not so bad, as long as you land a good hit.

Keep that in mind as your foes get closer and closer to you: these precious 15 seconds of reload time are the perfect time to intent a frontal attack, even more so since you don't have automatic firepower of any form. Always have a backup plan, in case your single shot doesn't fully disable your target.

100 mm SA47 L/58
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
40 -6°/+16° ±9° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 5.3 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 3.6 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
15.6 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
100 mm Obus de rupture APCBC 295 293 279 263 248 233
100 mm Obus explosif HE 22 22 21 20 20 20
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
100 mm Obus de rupture APCBC 1,060 15 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
100 mm Obus explosif HE 1,000 15 0.1 0.5 1,400 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the CA Lorraine.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
40 31 (+9) 21 (+19) 11 (+29) (+39) no

Usage in battles

This tank sits with confidence at BR 6.3 as a regular tank destroyer. There is nothing very special to it, but it performs good in most situations. Use your good mobility to take a competitive spot and reposition every now and then : once you get spotted, it is already too late. Hopefully, this tank's excellent mobility and neutral steering will make your day easier.

Use this tank as a classic tank destroyer while enjoying its great mobility. Any good move with a casemate TD is a good move with this tank.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good firepower, uses the same gun as AMX-50-100 and Lorraine 40t
  • Very good penetration, definitely usable in uptiered games
  • Exceptionally fast reverse speed
  • Fairly low profile
  • Capable of neutral steering
  • Strong gun mantlet may bounce shots
  • Fast with very good maneuverability

Cons:

  • Weak armor all around
  • Engines and fuel tanks only have 8mm armor, very vulnerable from above
  • Reload rate is not impressive
  • Poor gun depression (-6)
  • No HE filler in AP shots means precision is necessary
  • No coaxial MG
  • Low gun placement
  • Somewhat weak optic zoom
  • Large ammo racks on both sides of the hull

History

The CA Lorraine was developed and tested in the late 1940s, but never saw active service.

Media

Skin and Camouflages for the CA Lorraine in Warthunder Live.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France tank destroyers
  AMR.35 ZT3 · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50 · AMX-50 Foch · AMX-10RC
USA  ▄3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10